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Terry D wrote:

boxwills wrote:Are you the big piece who plays at being a photographer and have been banned from a number of shows. (If I am wrong I apologise).

What you fail to realise is that I am pointing out a fact in the physical makeup of David Haye and could be his downfall in the heavyweight division he has a bad chin end of story!!!

With regards Adam Booth great champions have to grit their teeth and smash through the pain barrier.

If there is a weak man in the corner it would be a huge handicap to a boxer the same as a good cutsman in your corner is an insurance policy just ask Ricky Hatton.

Who knows Haye may have been able to pull himself together against Thompson as he was also out on his feet. But Booth threw the towel in.

And please DONT FORGET TERRY this is a real mans game we are in and to quote to the great Mickey Duff if you want to show sympathy get a job in a funeral parlour.

Ask some of Adam Booths team mates in the amateurs about his lack of courage he was referred to as sick note.

Going back to Hayes chin it is simply a matter of the thickness of the skull. J C Chavez once had a CAT Scan in America and the doctors were amazed at the thickness of his skull, Marvin Hagler also had a very thick Skull. This is not an opinion I have had this confirmed to me by several leading BBB of C doctors the thicker your skull the more punishment you can take.

Johnny Owen had a very thin skull and he would not have got a licence today.

Now there was a real fighter!!!!! A man in a man's World

Best not to make assumptions mate, I'm afraid I'm not the guy in question as I struggle to use a pen let alone a camera! I'm a tall guy though so you have got me there.

Fair enough RE the chin point. I just feel that saying you giving him the benefit of the doubt over Thompson then bringing up an amateur KO is incongruent. Personally I thought Haye took some wicked shots against Carl and he was stopped on his feet. Booth wisely realised the game was up and was throwing the towel in. So credit Booth there.

As for Booth himself. I don't know the man personally but his work with Haye has been spot-on. Fair enough if your earlier post was alluding to what you may see as a character flaw but I think he has been strong in the corner. I heard his instructions first-hand during one fight and it was clear he was not only thinking of the fight close-to-hand bout but David's development overall. Plus he is big enough, and smart enough, to have Mick in the corner to do the cuts so the Hatton point works well for Booth as, like Billy Graham, he uses an expert cutsman.

Fair enough it is a mans game but in my view telling tales on Booth and spreading the nickname (which I had heard rumours about also) he had is not a mannish way of going about things, in my opinion.

I get your point on thickness of skull, and it is interesting enough but I think the will of a fighter comes into it a little. Hagler would never dream of being knocked down and even with a thinner skull if he had have gone he would have gotten back up and fought hard. Haye may not be able to withstand, in relative terms, the right hand Hearns hit Hagler with, or the uppercut Mugabi hit Hagler with, but few could do this. Haye got hit, went down, and got up to win. So his will is a big plus even if you think his chin is a massive minus. Although saying that, to be a little devilish, Hagler copped one on the top of the head, as Haye has, and was pulled down for his only career knockdown against Roldan. Although the point is moot as I do not count the knockdown in question. Unfortunately it was called by the ref.

Agree with you on Owen, he was a man but times have changed and I'm no longer sure this is a man's world, certainly not a man of the pale skinned variety.