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Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 02:04
by JSA
while i can understand the negativity about his comeback after what he has said in retirement speech and after BUT i figure saying your ok with going out then actually having to deal with retirement are 2 different things. he is a fighter at heart and perhaps he just has more to offer and he knows it.Plus if he doesnt do it now he age will not be on his side.
dont think he dodged his mandatory though.

perhaps i am just being selfish as i wished he had gone a few fights more.be it to fight mundine or not. as for that potential rematch-thought he was pretty agressive first time round but seemed to go for the body alot!head hunting is the way to go i reckon,and a few more uppercuts.But geeeez-mundine just seemed to see em all coming.

any news from the press conference?

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 02:08
by Marlin
From the Daily Telegrapgh:
June 24, 2008 12:00am

BOXER Danny Green says he will consider making a return to the ring after Anthony Mundine's camp sent him an "extremely lucrative" contract for a re-match.

Less than four months after announcing his retirement, Green said the lure of the big-money fight may prove too hard to resist.

Green said he will now go on a surfing holiday with his family before making a decision. "It's almost a ridiculous offer at the moment,'' Green said of the contract sent to him.

The 35-year-old, who snared the WBA light heavyweight world title when he defeated Croatia's Stipe Drews last March, said the fight would be held in Western Australia if it eventuated.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 02:10
by Marlin
From the Sydney Morning Herald:
June 24, 2008 - 2:31PM

Former world boxing champion Danny Green has said he is considering coming out of retirement to fight arch rival Anthony Mundine again - this time in Perth.

Just 92 days after announcing he was quitting the ring, Green told a press conference today he has been sent a "ridiculous" contract by Mundine's camp.

The 35 year-old said he was going to take the contract away with him on a family holiday in the next two weeks and consider his options, but had not yet made up his mind.

Green said his commitment to retire was being severely tested by the money being offered by Mundine's camp.

"These guys are pushing very hard to make this fight happen, and they are just about exhausting all their resources financially to make it happen," Green said.

"I am about to go on a holiday with my family ... I am going to pack that contract away with my surfboards and wetsuits and have a good hard look at it.

"It is an extremely lucrative contract they have sent to me. And if it keeps getting any more juicer it is going be very hard to turn down."

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 03:18
by Brute
He is taking a holiday with his family before he decides.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 04:36
by zojo
What weight would the rematch be at?????

I thought Mundine was dropping to 160? There is no way Danny can make that weight. Since Danny was a champ at 175, would that be the weight they would fight at?

How much weight has Green put on post retirement? If the fight is below 175, I think Mundine will win again.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 05:00
by adamheight
zojo, wrote:What weight would the rematch be at?????

I thought Mundine was dropping to 160? There is no way Danny can make that weight. Since Danny was a champ at 175, would that be the weight they would fight at?

How much weight has Green put on post retirement? If the fight is below 175, I think Mundine will win again.
according to a piece in the sydney morning herald it would be at 175. theres no way danny can get down to 160....maybe theyll do it again at supermiddle...infact who cares.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 05:04
by Bentley23
true who cares defend ya world title ya toss green if he does come back i hope he gets ko'd

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 07:33
by Ross
adamheight wrote:
zojo, wrote:What weight would the rematch be at?????

I thought Mundine was dropping to 160? There is no way Danny can make that weight. Since Danny was a champ at 175, would that be the weight they would fight at?

How much weight has Green put on post retirement? If the fight is below 175, I think Mundine will win again.
according to a piece in the sydney morning herald it would be at 175. theres no way danny can get down to 160....maybe theyll do it again at supermiddle...infact who cares.
Agree who cares, IMO petty calling the press conference today to announce it, and if they were trying to take the focus away from Australias greatest fighter Fenech it did not work as it hardly rated a mention in the media. Fenech fought and beat the best putting himself to the test all the time, Green & Mundine togeter do not compare to Fenech and what he achieved in the ring - not even close.
Green Mundine is being made cause both of them have nowhere to go, Green retired good for him bt mundine? he cannot win at the top level, avoids good fighters - but has a style to always trouble Green.
But at a more comfortabe weight for Green you never know?

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 10:59
by amwsnw
laceemup wrote:One would have to think that GREEN wouldnt give a press conf if he wasnt going to announce a "comeback" of sorts. I always believed he would as he had too much unfinished business...and plenty of people chirping in his ear about the $$ to be earned if he just had 3 more fights...and the loudest voice was from his wife!!

From a selfish standpoint Im stoked and I hope he comes back for at least 3 more fights. Just a bit suspicious of the circumstances of why he "retired" in the first place...was it a strategic plan to avoid a mand defence?? Will the WBA reinstate him as the champ? and sanction the Mundine v Green II as a world title fight at LH??

I guess we should wait and see what is announced at the press conf first...
Your shitting me aren't you...to avoid Garay? I don't think so!! If you have seen Garay he is made for Danny. The simple thing is he was ready to retire and did it. He has been retired and doesn't like it. The money is huge and any "normal" person, fighter or not, would not be able to turn it down. You give Nina too much credit. Maybe your wife pulls the strings but as a fighter I am sure Danny has the final say. Green comes back after a bit of R & R at his weight....Go Greenie.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 24 Jun 2008, 11:03
by JSA
No questions here of how great Fenech is/was. Selfishly i would like to see the rematch simply because i think weight had a factor last time.PLUS if Mundine is ginna fight a hard hitter then may as well be green coz at least choc fought last time with something to prove. Still dont think the result will be different but closer .However think the chance of mundine getting KTFO is more likely even if its 5-10% more at a higher weight.
All that said surelyu Green will have a warm up and if he is the real deal take a belt bout.If he wins well...........
Personally i aint gonna be too hard or negative on him.I justt wanna see him fight him again.Where are you Mr Garay. SURELY he aint sill enough to just take a one off but guess thats all he is considering :(

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 09:24
by laceemup
AMWSNW

If a fighter goes so far into a preparation for a fight and suddenly announces his "retirement" at the 11th hour I think its a fair question to ask...as for my wife yes when she says jump I say how high!! If you had seen Nina at the King v Man 3 she was very adament she wanted Green to come back!! And as you know his family are a very close unit and the ONLY people GREEN would listen to!! The purse for the Green v Mundine fight was always going to be huge and the talk of 5 mill plus was there before he retired...if he wanted R & R he should have gone thru with the Garay fight and then taken a much deserved break!! To retire and then talk of coming out of retirement a few weeks later....well his boxing shorts wouldnt have dried out in that time...GO GREENIE! :box:

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 10:36
by amwsnw
laceemup wrote:AMWSNW

If a fighter goes so far into a preparation for a fight and suddenly announces his "retirement" at the 11th hour I think its a fair question to ask...as for my wife yes when she says jump I say how high!! If you had seen Nina at the King v Man 3 she was very adament she wanted Green to come back!! And as you know his family are a very close unit and the ONLY people GREEN would listen to!! The purse for the Green v Mundine fight was always going to be huge and the talk of 5 mill plus was there before he retired...if he wanted R & R he should have gone thru with the Garay fight and then taken a much deserved break!! To retire and then talk of coming out of retirement a few weeks later....well his boxing shorts wouldnt have dried out in that time...GO GREENIE! :box:
Greens family and his promotional team tried there best to talk him out of announcing his retirement because they knew there was a very good chance he would get itchy feet. I am not sure how many fights of Garays you have seen. He is tough but thats about it. It would have been a good fight but I would think Danny would have handled him fine thats why I dont think your concern or comment is a valid one. Greenie is not past his prime, he didnt retire a has-been, he retired at the top. He is not shot and has been offered massive money to once again apply his trade. Instead of criticism he should be applauded if he decides to comeback and maybe give his fans thanks with one last fight.... or with any luck, many more fights.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 18:39
by Bentley23
imagine if mundine never came to boxing green would never get the chance to play the good guy talk about living off somebody's career! oh sorry he beat stripe drews!

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 18:46
by Marlin
:o

Winning a legitimate World Title is something Mundine has yet to do. When offered another chance against Kessler, following Calzaghe vacating the belt, he couldn't get out of super middleweight quick enough!

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 22:43
by Bentley23
i dont care how legit it was i reckon i could of trained for 3 months and givin stripe a run for his money truly the worst defense of a title i have ever seen he wasnt even worried when he lost

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 25 Jun 2008, 22:57
by razor7
Green's "I had a vision" retirement was conveniently timed just before his book went on sale. We then had the press conference to announce ,in fact ,nothing except he might come out of retirement ,timed to divert attention from the Fenech fight.This guy is a publicity manipulator, which is fine, except he bags Mundine who essentially does the same thing. Mundine doesn't sell his snake oil with a smile, otherwisethere are many similarities.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 07:13
by Brute
Bentley23 wrote:i dont care how legit it was i reckon i could of trained for 3 months and givin stripe a run for his money truly the worst defense of a title i have ever seen he wasnt even worried when he lost
For Drews to fight as long as he did before taking the title against Branco I think he cared that he lost. He just is not one of those boxers who throw a wobbly when they lose. He fought as well as Green let him.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 08:01
by madball1982
Brute wrote: He just is not one of those boxers who throw a wobbly when they lose. He fought as well as Green let him.
I have to disagree with you there, IMO Green did not do anything tactics wise to make Drews fight like that. He may have tagged him at one point and Drews got hesitant, but IMO, Drews fought the whole fight SCARED and on his bike. And for someone as experienced as he is I did not think anything Green had done to that point would cause him to get on his bike. But hey, firstly, I wasn't Drews so I can only talk about what I saw.
It wasn't Green's fault and he fought moving forward the whole time, I just wish (as I did at the time) that Drews FOUGHT not RAN.


As far as the whole Green retired thing goes, I'll support him in any number of fights that he fights in again. It's a shame he got trigger-happy and retired when he did. But let's be honest here - how many boxers un-retire all the time? Didn't DeLaHoya say before the Mayweather fight that that was it? They get the itch back OR if it's not the itch - the cheque that's dangled in front of them brings them back. If Mundine's camp are dangling a $5M cheque - how many retired boxers (that retired for the same reasons Green did) WOULDN'T un-retire.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 09:18
by Uppercut1
I'm a fan of both Mundine and Green.

Of course I'd love to see them go at it again, But It will be the same result! Mundine is a better fighter and will easily beat Green on points. Green should just enjoy retirement and let someone else take it to the man.

:box:

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 19:48
by calmac66
It's a pity that the man won't fight anyone else who CAN take it to him.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 26 Jun 2008, 23:46
by Uppercut1
calmac66 wrote:It's a pity that the man won't fight anyone else who CAN take it to him.
Eventually, someone will take it to him. Outmatch him in speed and strength.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 27 Jun 2008, 01:03
by Marlin
Uppercut1 wrote:
calmac66 wrote:It's a pity that the man won't fight anyone else who CAN take it to him.
Eventually, someone will take it to him. Outmatch him in speed and strength.
Kessler...

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 27 Jun 2008, 03:01
by toppity
Marlin wrote:
Uppercut1 wrote:
calmac66 wrote:It's a pity that the man won't fight anyone else who CAN take it to him.
Eventually, someone will take it to him. Outmatch him in speed and strength.
Kessler...
Even funnier is that the 'renown' ko artist (cough...cough) Ottke did as well.

Re: Green v Mundine 2

Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 23:41
by Hounddawg
Sorry, disagree with the majority of posts, one of my favorite alltime fighters, love to see this fight, would even travel with 10 mates to Perth to sit ringside $ It has to be at Lightheavy it's been stated by both fighters. I'm very very selfish and dont mind admiting it. Go Grenny