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Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 12:32
by sweetscience
he took a few hundred over to manchester on the haye bill, i was sat right in the middle of them

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 12:33
by Scrap
The point Im trying to make Coco, Is Glyn Rhodes works for John Feewkes, not Amir Khan. He has had John from a pup and the Pup is starting to develope Fangs :D .

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 12:49
by Coco
Scrap wrote:The point Im trying to make Coco, Is Glyn Rhodes works for John Feewkes, not Amir Khan. He has had John from a pup and the Pup is starting to develope Fangs :D .
If that is the case he is not turning down the fight because of money, because this bout may damage him, whereas he is improving and will have bigger fights down the line
There is no disgrace in that FW would never chuck one of his prospects in at the deep end

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 12:49
by Pugilist-specialist
Scrap wrote:The point Im trying to make Coco, Is Glyn Rhodes works for John Feewkes, not Amir Khan. He has had John from a pup and the Pup is starting to develope Fangs :D .
Obviously Rhodes is not as confident as you
Take the 40k then , if he beats Khan, he's worth a fortune
He'll not get much for fighting Gethin

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 12:52
by Coco
sweetscience wrote:he took a few hundred over to manchester on the haye bill, i was sat right in the middle of them
A few hundred is prob 10k's worth of tickets, that is not enough to warrant the larger payday

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 13:00
by Scrap
At the moment its a Funny one, if you came back to me next year and asked Id say take it. Ive been told Im a pretty good judge :D

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 13:05
by sweetscience
how much was he gettin for murray before he pulled out

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 13:16
by Scrap
Sweet not sure its not my Buisness, just that on here someone was telling Porkys and I knew the Truth because last night I was Told by the Man who knows :D .

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 13:28
by sweetscience
30k is shite to be honest

after tax/manager/training he would only b left with about 12k

i dont blame him really

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 17:05
by gb
Hate to disrupt the financial advisors on here (although I agree that £30k is a good deposit on a house), but doesn't this represent a huge backward step for Khan. It looked a while ago that he was being brought along at a reasonable pace (Earl coming off a title shot, St. Clair), but he suffers a KD against Gomez (so what - as I've said on many occasions, good fighters get dropped by average fighters in their early careers pretty often) and suddenly he's lined up against a guy with 2 ko wins in 17. No disrespect to John Fewkes, but Khan should be going in at a higher level than this at this stage in his career. He should start taking on some American/Mexaican veterans at this stage. Kevin Kelley?

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 17:38
by rooq
gb wrote:Hate to disrupt the financial advisors on here (although I agree that £30k is a good deposit on a house), but doesn't this represent a huge backward step for Khan. It looked a while ago that he was being brought along at a reasonable pace (Earl coming off a title shot, St. Clair), but he suffers a KD against Gomez (so what - as I've said on many occasions, good fighters get dropped by average fighters in their early careers pretty often) and suddenly he's lined up against a guy with 2 ko wins in 17. No disrespect to John Fewkes, but Khan should be going in at a higher level than this at this stage in his career. He should start taking on some American/Mexaican veterans at this stage. Kevin Kelley?
lol i was thinking the other day that kevin kelly would be the typical opponent for Khan at this stage. shot (?) blown up featherweight and a former world champ. the promoters would have no trouble selling the fight to tv as people still remember naz - kelly.

but yeah, for a guy who is "way beyond" domestic level, fewkes shouldn't even be in the picture (no disrespect to fireball)

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 18:20
by gb
rooq wrote:
gb wrote:Hate to disrupt the financial advisors on here (although I agree that £30k is a good deposit on a house), but doesn't this represent a huge backward step for Khan. It looked a while ago that he was being brought along at a reasonable pace (Earl coming off a title shot, St. Clair), but he suffers a KD against Gomez (so what - as I've said on many occasions, good fighters get dropped by average fighters in their early careers pretty often) and suddenly he's lined up against a guy with 2 ko wins in 17. No disrespect to John Fewkes, but Khan should be going in at a higher level than this at this stage in his career. He should start taking on some American/Mexaican veterans at this stage. Kevin Kelley?
lol i was thinking the other day that kevin kelly would be the typical opponent for Khan at this stage. shot (?) blown up featherweight and a former world champ. the promoters would have no trouble selling the fight to tv as people still remember naz - kelly.

but yeah, for a guy who is "way beyond" domestic level, fewkes shouldn't even be in the picture (no disrespect to fireball)
Apologies to Kevin Kelly for my spelling on that one. He is indeed a blow up featherweight who is pretty much shot, but he's what Jim & Reg would call a "learning" fight for Khan. Best comparison I can think of is when Hatton fought Vince Phillips - realistically only ever one person going to win, but the manner of victory is a good barometer of where the guy is at.

Khan should be huge one day, but he needs to be given meaningful challenges along the way.

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 21:23
by Asterix
gb wrote:Apologies to Kevin Kelly for my spelling on that one.
You were right; it's Kevin Kelley.

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 23:37
by gb
Asterix wrote:
gb wrote:Apologies to Kevin Kelly for my spelling on that one.
You were right; it's Kevin Kelley.
Apologies to myself for the apology to Kevin Kelley!

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 04:02
by Twinkle Toes
It makes me smile, that Khan's WBO eliminator that he won appears to have been well and truly swept under the carpet while he chases fights against someone who hasn't even mixed at British title level yet.

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 06:13
by Autobarn
gb wrote:Hate to disrupt the financial advisors on here (although I agree that £30k is a good deposit on a house), but doesn't this represent a huge backward step for Khan. It looked a while ago that he was being brought along at a reasonable pace (Earl coming off a title shot, St. Clair), but he suffers a KD against Gomez (so what - as I've said on many occasions, good fighters get dropped by average fighters in their early careers pretty often) and suddenly he's lined up against a guy with 2 ko wins in 17. No disrespect to John Fewkes, but Khan should be going in at a higher level than this at this stage in his career. He should start taking on some American/Mexaican veterans at this stage. Kevin Kelley?
It just seems like if it's a good, absolute non puncher, Khan is allowed to fight them in their primes. Limond, maybe Fewkes. And if they're a puncher, they have to be on their last legs, Gomez and Earl. There's definitely a pattern to it.

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 08:01
by funso banjo baby
i dont see the problem so far

hes still only ..19 ? the build up is great so far..if the likes of fewkes and gomez are being picked...the gomez fight was perfect...we're watching this kid learn how to deal with different styles in every fight..its all good

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 08:37
by whiteboy
on his interview on setanta the other day, khan said something along the lines of he was 'beyond' john murray/domestic level and they were looking for international fighters.

then it turns out fewkes was offered the fight :-?

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 09:32
by black panther
sweetscience wrote:30k is shite to be honest

after tax/manager/training he would only b left with about 12k

i dont blame him really
Exactly - its not like he'll get 30k in his pocket. Consider that this is meant to be a "big" ish fight and say hypothetically this fight is the only one Fewkes has for the year due to reasons such as injuries, thats only 12k in his pocket for the whole year which is eff all really at this moment in time. I think double amount would be fair. On a related note I HATE EFFING TAXES!!

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 10:03
by tyson
American lightweight Jorge Teron won a intercontinentel WBO style type belt friday night will he now fight Amir in a final final Eliminator for a shot at the WBO title. :lol:

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 10:04
by Asterix
funso banjo baby wrote:i dont see the problem so far

hes still only ..19 ? the build up is great so far..if the likes of fewkes and gomez are being picked...the gomez fight was perfect...we're watching this kid learn how to deal with different styles in every fight..its all good
He's 21, 22 in December.

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 10:57
by funso banjo baby
Asterix wrote:
funso banjo baby wrote:i dont see the problem so far

hes still only ..19 ? the build up is great so far..if the likes of fewkes and gomez are being picked...the gomez fight was perfect...we're watching this kid learn how to deal with different styles in every fight..its all good
He's 21, 22 in December.
:roll: jeez really.. well he needs to step up... i give him another 3 years..tops

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 11:08
by Max Molyneux
sweetscience wrote:30k is shite to be honest

after tax/manager/training he would only b left with about 12k

i dont blame him really
12k wouldn't be that bad to live on for a few months since It's not like he lives an expensive lifestyle.

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 11:12
by Scrap
Example of progress, Barry Mcgiugan I remember in his 6th fight I think Boxed Claude Ruyn. I remember at the time thinking , We will see if this Kid can Fight Ruyn was a good Fighter with class. McGiugan did a job on the Kid, we all knew then that He was for real. Khan Im still not sure off. :D

Re: Fewkes ready for Khan - if the price is right

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 14:19
by beagleboy
sweetscience wrote:30k is shite to be honest

after tax/manager/training he would only b left with about 12k

i dont blame him really
I'd take BC's word that it was 40k
Take 25% manager fee to leave him with 30k
He'd have to be in some tax bracket to leave him with 12k

What's the other alternative ?
Fight Gethin for 10k ?
By your calculations that would leave him with 4k