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so gary st clair shifted 10 pounds and still beat kickett (watever the decision was)...not very impressive

first off i dont see hhow anyone could rate StClair a C level fighter. each to their own i guess.
personally i do think kickett has talent.I also reckon any st clair fight is hard to score and gary is an awkward customer with a granite chin and LOTS of experience.
comparing Khan and Kickett on the basis of fighting ST clair seems silly to me for reasons of size of the fighters.But Kickett took him on VERY EARLY in his career and he is still rather green but do think he keeps improving and has great speed and for someone so inexperienced good defence.
anyway khan will get KTFO at the point he fights somebody his own size that can punch a bit.

JSA wrote:first off i dont see hhow anyone could rate StClair a C level fighter. each to their own i guess.
personally i do think kickett has talent.I also reckon any st clair fight is hard to score and gary is an awkward customer with a granite chin and LOTS of experience.
comparing Khan and Kickett on the basis of fighting ST clair seems silly to me for reasons of size of the fighters.But Kickett took him on VERY EARLY in his career and he is still rather green but do think he keeps improving and has great speed and for someone so inexperienced good defence.
anyway khan will get KTFO at the point he fights somebody his own size that can punch a bit.

if st clair and kickett decide what weight they want to fight at ...they might be more than just journeymen types.....both have fought regularly between 125 up 139 !

not too many journeymen have been IBF world champs.

toppity wrote:not too many journeymen have been IBF world champs.

u mean ibo?

he was ibf and ibo champ

Kicket does definitly need to get more power if he is to be a force at world level . He has hurtful punches but doe'nt seem to have that big punch .Kicket and Khan won't happen , at the moment there weights are not too far apart for it to not happen . but it won't simply because Kicket can hurt and he is quick enough to catch china chin Khan with a couple , Being quick enough to land on Khan only means one thing you ain't never gonna fight him .

And in a year or two Khan will be too big. Then again bring on Kasidas would love to see Khan and Mick , Khan too god too quick but i have a feeling Mick would walk through Khan and ko him.

Bentley23 wrote:he was ibf and ibo champ

^^ i hate that smilie. it's a condescending piece of sh1te, used when people can't think of anything worthy to say. Anyway, he was IBO an IBFchamp, which is better than the WBO stinker.

funso banjo baby wrote:

Bentley23 wrote:he was ibf and ibo champ

didnt need to say anything


no wonder Australian boxing is wallowing in a quagmire of crappiness if u guys are giving credence to alphabet titles like that

the alphabets ruin boxing....growing like a disease with every new 'champion' thats imagined up


FIGHT IT PEOPLE

Think you will find most here dont give "credence"as such to the alphabet titles.However i still think even in this day and age there is a considerable gulf between a holder of an alphabet title and a journeyman in terms of ability.
forgive if i misinterpreted your post but were you implicating Kickett as a journeyman-after a dozen fights
Anyway each to their own.for me st clair is a world class fighter,a genuine pro and a good bloke. Certainly not the best ever or P4p condidate but a good honest fighter. Kickett is an up and comer with talent.He has the potential i feel to make it but think his next 5 or so fights will be crucial both in terms of his career and as a guide to see how far he may go.and no doubt there are areas he needs to improve-but what fighter with a dozen fights under his belt doesnt.

JSA wrote:Think you will find most here dont give "credence"as such to the alphabet titles.However i still think even in this day and age there is a considerable gulf between a holder of an alphabet title and a journeyman in terms of ability.
forgive if i misinterpreted your post but were you implicating Kickett as a journeyman-after a dozen fights
Anyway each to their own.for me st clair is a world class fighter,a genuine pro and a good bloke. Certainly not the best ever or P4p condidate but a good honest fighter. Kickett is an up and comer with talent.He has the potential i feel to make it but think his next 5 or so fights will be crucial both in terms of his career and as a guide to see how far he may go.and no doubt there are areas he needs to improve-but what fighter with a dozen fights under his belt doesnt.

nice post. I still have st clair above "good honest fighter" IMO.

^^reckon your right mate.should of given him a bit more props than good honest fighter suggests.Christ if the bloke had some power he would be unbeatable.awesome chin and stamina and must be a nightmare opponent-redefines awkward.

coneye wrote:Kicket does definitly need to get more power if he is to be a force at world level . He has hurtful punches but doe'nt seem to have that big punch .Kicket and Khan won't happen , at the moment there weights are not too far apart for it to not happen . but it won't simply because Kicket can hurt and he is quick enough to catch china chin Khan with a couple , Being quick enough to land on Khan only means one thing you ain't never gonna fight him .

And in a year or two Khan will be too big. Then again bring on Kasidas would love to see Khan and Mick , Khan too god too quick but i have a feeling Mick would walk through Khan and ko him.

I think you might be stretching it a bit too far there mate :P

Marlin wrote:

coneye wrote:Kicket does definitly need to get more power if he is to be a force at world level . He has hurtful punches but doe'nt seem to have that big punch .Kicket and Khan won't happen , at the moment there weights are not too far apart for it to not happen . but it won't simply because Kicket can hurt and he is quick enough to catch china chin Khan with a couple , Being quick enough to land on Khan only means one thing you ain't never gonna fight him .

And in a year or two Khan will be too big. Then again bring on Kasidas would love to see Khan and Mick , Khan too god too quick but i have a feeling Mick would walk through Khan and ko him.

I think you might be stretching it a bit too far there mate :P

not quite God status yet eh......hmmmmmm.... :P