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BigEars wrote:

Horse wrote:

metropol wrote:I said the exact same thing last month and was told that Irish boxers were allowed I then asked would he rename it to british and Irish and he said he wouldnt.
I think you should do one or the other tbh horse.

I think there is a third way.

NaFianna wrote:Absolutely... listen... you're either British or your not. Dunne is not British- he can't be on the list!

Yet he is.

Then it's just a completely bogus list. You're calling it a "British Top 30" and a couple of fighters are NOT British. So, what are ya trying to pull? If you're just being defiantly disrespectful, then that's typical and predictable- Irish are used to that kind of disrespect through the ages from the Brits, but if you want to be official about it, then they don't belong on the list. Honestly, I'm pretty sure the boxers in question won't mind

Excuse the pun, but there is a saying, you can lead a Horse to water ..........................
Seriously, (and I am just as guilty) we are all feeding this tosser's ego by replying.
I suggest we all just boycott his threads !!

twenty six wrote:Excuse the pun, but there is a saying, you can lead a Horse to water ..........................
Seriously, (and I am just as guilty) we are all feeding this tosser's ego by replying.
I suggest we all just boycott his threads !!

well said. This guy seems to think the fighters care about his list. As said above I dont think duddy or dunne will be up at night if theyre not on your list.

Guys, guys, guys...


This is just a list of 1 man (with way to much time on his hands) posting, for god knows what reason, a monthly list of his own favourite fighters.


It isnt in any way an official list


It would be like me posting a "Thailand's top 30 prostitute" list, it would purely be a personal choice, not an official ranking of prostitutes


Cheers

I'll Boycot the Horse too, once people don't think I'm being cruel to animals

banjo wrote:Barker top 15. put Enzo 6th ahead of Arthur and Froch as he's beaten higher level of opposition(excluding Bobby Gunn of course)

I think it is too early for Barker to be in the top 15, if he fights and beats Elcock then maybe. If Enzo beats Banks for the WBO title then he will probably go above those fighters.

TheGoods wrote:You telling me John Murray is NOT among the 30 best fighters in Britain? Suppose he is only an unbeaten British champion who is consistently calling out Khan and who put in a career best shift in his last fight.

Murray has only just won the British title, if he can defend it then he will probably enter the list. Most British lightweights call out Khan, I don't see how that helps Murray's case.

BigEars wrote:Seeing as Duddy does not hold British citizenship(and never has done) and was born outside Britain I think you can resoundingly say he is not British. The only place which officially' reports him as British is this site.

I have to agree with earlier comments, either it's a British and Irish list or just British and should be named accordingly.

I decided to add Irish fighters to my list last September (over a year ago). I don't know why there is such fuss this month.

BigEars wrote:Want to explain this third way ?

I will introduce a feature, starting next month, to distinguish Irish fighters from the rest. I hope that will be enough for those who are displeased with the current situation.

sweetscience wrote:were would put Murray, i think has as much right as mcintye & appleby, but Horse does like a bit of scottish bias

personally id ditch mcintyre and put murray in at 30

McIntyre and Appleby beat better fighters to become British champion. Murray only won a vacant title.

twenty six wrote:The goods,
Same goes for Rhodes.
You telling me he's not a top 30 fighter ?

Rhodes is unproven as British champion. If he beats Coyle then he might have done enough to enter the list.

twenty six wrote:Excuse the pun, but there is a saying, you can lead a Horse to water ..........................
Seriously, (and I am just as guilty) we are all feeding this tosser's ego by replying.
I suggest we all just boycott his threads !!

Join me mate, I take a look at it but it's not worth leaving a comment - he's barking mad.

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Guys, guys, guys...


This is just a list of 1 man (with way to much time on his hands) posting, for god knows what reason, a monthly list of his own favourite fighters.


It isnt in any way an official list


It would be like me posting a "Thailand's top 30 prostitute" list, it would purely be a personal choice, not an official ranking of prostitutes


Cheers

:)

TheGoods wrote:Elcock at 14 and no Murray or Rhodes? Ye Gods...

Wayne Elcock is too high in my rankings, I admit that, but he beat a fringe world class fighter in Howard Eastman to win his title. Which is a bigger achievement than beating either Meager or Woolcombe, who were not rated very highly before they lost to Murray and Rhodes. If Murray and Rhodes make successful defences of their belts then I will be more convinced of their ability.

metropol wrote:horse dont be arsey about it just be reasonable and take him off .

What a suprise, your idea of being reasonable is to do as you say.

NaFianna wrote:Sure if he's gonna put Irish in the top Brit fighters, he might as well put Mexicans and Americans in there too- you might be able to fill a top 50 or top 100 that way ;)

Ireland is a part of the British Isles, so it is clearly far more British than Mexico or the USA. And why would I need Mexicans, Americans or Irish boxers to make a top 100 list?

metropol wrote:Or if he kept it at top 30 there might not be many brits in it at all.

And no Irish.

Horse wrote:

NaFianna wrote:Sure if he's gonna put Irish in the top Brit fighters, he might as well put Mexicans and Americans in there too- you might be able to fill a top 50 or top 100 that way ;)

Ireland is a part of the British Isles, so it is clearly far more British than Mexico or the USA. And why would I need Mexicans, Americans or Irish boxers to make a top 100 list?

metropol wrote:Or if he kept it at top 30 there might not be many brits in it at all.

And no Irish.

Ehhhh... obviously Horses don't go to school, but that's no excuse. IRELAND (the south) is NOT part of the British Isles. There was a rising in 1916 and the south of Ireland became a free-state, by driving the Brits out of the south- now the south is free from British rule. There are 6 of the 9 counties in Ulster under control of a foreign power- Britain. Therefore, all the trouble you may have heard about for the past 40 years, which you surely know about, unless you had no telly in your stable as a young little horsey? So even if approx 1/6 of Ireland is officially under British rule, you could not constitute that the island of IRELAND is part of the British Isles, unless you were a total dummy. Bernard Dunne is from Dublin, which is the capital fo the free-state- SO, my young bucko, he's still not British, as much as you want him to be, you ignorant, bigoted shithead!

lol, he's British, no he's Irish

Little nationalistic pricks the pair of you

Why haven't you considered Paul Truscott..... the guy Truscott beat has just beaten the world ranked Munyai.

NaFianna wrote:

Horse wrote:

NaFianna wrote:Sure if he's gonna put Irish in the top Brit fighters, he might as well put Mexicans and Americans in there too- you might be able to fill a top 50 or top 100 that way ;)

Ireland is a part of the British Isles, so it is clearly far more British than Mexico or the USA. And why would I need Mexicans, Americans or Irish boxers to make a top 100 list?

metropol wrote:Or if he kept it at top 30 there might not be many brits in it at all.

And no Irish.

Ehhhh... obviously Horses don't go to school, but that's no excuse. IRELAND (the south) is NOT part of the British Isles. There was a rising in 1916 and the south of Ireland became a free-state, by driving the Brits out of the south- now the south is free from British rule. There are 6 of the 9 counties in Ulster under control of a foreign power- Britain. Therefore, all the trouble you may have heard about for the past 40 years, which you surely know about, unless you had no telly in your stable as a young little horsey? So even if approx 1/6 of Ireland is officially under British rule, you could not constitute that the island of IRELAND is part of the British Isles, unless you were a total dummy. Bernard Dunne is from Dublin, which is the capital fo the free-state- SO, my young bucko, he's still not British, as much as you want him to be, you ignorant, bigoted shithead!

To clear things up technically Ireland is part of the geographic description which the British Isles is. However this term was coined before Ireland left the United Kingdom and today you will often hear terms such as 'British and Irish Isles' to move away from the now incorrect term of 'British Isles'

None of the Island of Ireland is part of Britain. Northern Ireland is part of the UK and the Republic of Ireland is its own Republic(as you may tell by the name ) with the title of the nation being just 'Ireland'(as the island is called).

From a modern stand point you would equally be as correct to have a Mexican in a British rankings list as Bernard Dunne. John Duddy is not a British citizen either, unlike Ajose Olusegun is now(another figher to consider for your list) and as such doesn't really belong on a British rankings list.


Just for a bit of historical information for anyone that actually finds it interesting(I'm guessing that's no one), although there was a Rising in Ireland in 1916, fighting continued with Britain and it wasn't till 1921 that Independance was given to 26 of Ireland's 32 counties.
Ireland did actually form it's own Republic in 1919 but only the Russians and Ireland itself recognised it.

Anyway partition was agreed to with a boundary commission set up to decide the lines for Northern Ireland the the Republic of Ireland 'Permanently', Nationalists had believed that the new Irish Free State would receive two more counties as there was Nationalist majorities in Tyrone and Fermanagh I believe, but the boundary was left as per the original lines.

The Irish Free State was changed to Éire in 1937 and was a Republic in all but name(still having a monarch as head of state prevented this), in 1949 Ireland became a full Republic and left the British Commonwealth. Northern Ireland remains part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to this day. Citizens of Northern Ireland are entitled to British citizenship, Irish, citizenship or both.

Britain= England, Scotland, Wales
United Kingdom= England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland


I hope that was informative, now to keep this mildly on topic, Wayne Elcock is too high, where are Murray and Rhodes....[rabble, rabble, rabble]

Great exposition Big Ears, and I agree. But where you put Dunne and Duddy in that list honestly? Just a hypothetical, I know, given the highly sensitive nature of the subject matter ie not politics but geophaphics - there's no accounting for the flight of the earls.

Witter at number 4 what an absolute joke !!!

NaFianna wrote:Then it's just a completely bogus list. You're calling it a "British Top 30" and a couple of fighters are NOT British. So, what are ya trying to pull? If you're just being defiantly disrespectful, then that's typical and predictable- Irish are used to that kind of disrespect through the ages from the Brits, but if you want to be official about it, then they don't belong on the list. Honestly, I'm pretty sure the boxers in question won't mind

Why don't you get that chip off your shoulder? You make it sound like a great curse to be born Irish.

twenty six wrote:Excuse the pun, but there is a saying, you can lead a Horse to water ..........................
Seriously, (and I am just as guilty) we are all feeding this tosser's ego by replying.
I suggest we all just boycott his threads !!

Sod off then.

metropol wrote:well said. This guy seems to think the fighters care about his list.

When have I ever said that I think fighters care about my list?

metropol wrote:As said above I dont think duddy or dunne will be up at night if theyre not on your list.

I doubt they are going to be up at night because they are on my list either.

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Guys, guys, guys...


This is just a list of 1 man (with way to much time on his hands) posting, for god knows what reason, a monthly list of his own favourite fighters.


It isnt in any way an official list


It would be like me posting a "Thailand's top 30 prostitute" list, it would purely be a personal choice, not an official ranking of prostitutes


Cheers

What's your point?

NaFianna wrote:I'll Boycot the Horse too, once people don't think I'm being cruel to animals

Please don't.

Captain Hook wrote:Join me mate, I take a look at it but it's not worth leaving a comment - he's barking mad.

Captain Hook wrote: :)

You are posting a lot for someone who has boycotted my list. I hope to see you again next month.

NaFianna wrote:Ehhhh... obviously Horses don't go to school, but that's no excuse. IRELAND (the south) is NOT part of the British Isles. There was a rising in 1916 and the south of Ireland became a free-state, by driving the Brits out of the south- now the south is free from British rule. There are 6 of the 9 counties in Ulster under control of a foreign power- Britain. Therefore, all the trouble you may have heard about for the past 40 years, which you surely know about, unless you had no telly in your stable as a young little horsey? So even if approx 1/6 of Ireland is officially under British rule, you could not constitute that the island of IRELAND is part of the British Isles, unless you were a total dummy. Bernard Dunne is from Dublin, which is the capital fo the free-state- SO, my young bucko, he's still not British, as much as you want him to be, you ignorant, bigoted shithead!

BigEars wrote:To clear things up technically Ireland is part of the geographic description which the British Isles is. However this term was coined before Ireland left the United Kingdom and today you will often hear terms such as 'British and Irish Isles' to move away from the now incorrect term of 'British Isles'

Take that NaFianna you ignorant, bigoted shithead!

BigEars wrote:I hope that was informative, now to keep this mildly on topic, Wayne Elcock is too high, where are Murray and Rhodes....[rabble, rabble, rabble]

Thanks for the info BigEars.

I admit that Elcock is too high, I will try to sort that situation out when I get the chance. I am currently unconvinced by Murray and Rhodes, but I will certainly reconsider their standing after their next fights.

banjo wrote:lol, he's British, no he's Irish

Little nationalistic pricks the pair of you

I don't even think Duddy or Dunne are British though.

stujones wrote:Why haven't you considered Paul Truscott..... the guy Truscott beat has just beaten the world ranked Munyai.

Truscott hasn't fought recently, so I haven't had the chance to enter him in the list. Munyai was world ranked at bantamweight and he lost at featherweight, so it wasn't a massive win for Akaba, although it was obviously good.

mark thompson wrote:Witter at number 4 what an absolute joke !!!

Why is that a joke? Witter has beaten a good number of top names in his division and has proven more than those below him.

I can't wait for Khan to be moved into the top 10 next month.

He'll be top 5 now.

If he was Irish he'd be at number 2 :)

Horse - posting three times (including this one) is not "a lot" mate. You're an egotistical little quim and don't forget it

Good byeee.....