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Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Its really something when people here have no interest in Calzaghe - Jones

yeah, just imagine, not being really interested in a fight so one-sided that one 'combatant' clearly forfeits any chance of winning after the 2nd round, as many people predicted would be the case. imagine not being interested in a one-sided parade less competitive than sparring sessions many of us will have seen.

god KG what a strange lot we are, perversely wishing to see competitive fights, we make a mockery of boxing fans eh?

still at least we are lucky enough to have you around to remind us of the the error of our ways. are you looking forward to a Hopkins- Jones rematch then?

Maglianaggi - Hatton isnt a competitive fight?


Blimey

Spud wrote:

Crease wrote:Malignaggi is a good boxer... No doubt about that...

But he's not the GREAT boxer that people are making him out to be...

I think Hatton will stop him...

Cotto did not manage it - what makes you think Hatton will?

Crease wrote:Malignaggi is a good boxer... No doubt about that...

But he's not the GREAT boxer that people are making him out to be...

I think Hatton will stop him...

Spud wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Hatton will pulverise him and I very much think Hatton has declined.

But Maglianaggi is a dilute version of what he needs to be to win.

A slippery fighter doesn't get tagged as much as he does.

Just because he uses tweezers on his eyebrows doesn't mean he's hard to hit.

I think Hatton will look better against Mag.

But he still only 70% of his best, at best.

More than enough for Paulie.

David,

Lets hope you are right - British Boxing in my view needs the likes of Calzaghe, Hatton, Haye and Froch too keep on winning - if they do not the transition to those coming through the ranks to hopefully hit the world ranks is going to be vast - seriously if the above mentioned fall away who else do we have ready to step into their shoes now??

But back to Hatton - you have forgotten a couple of factors in your summing up of Hatton - firstly and I believe it is the most important one - the "Kerry Kayes" factor - without him doing all but wipe Hatton's arse for him I honestly believe Hatton will not be the same fighter.

Couple that with Hatton clearly not liking "fancy dan" fighters who box and run and who also have the necessary footwork to steal the fight with a few pitter patter jabs here and there - I honestly think Hatton has a whole lot of problems coming his way!!!

Then I suppose you could add in another factor - what is Hattons punch resistance like? - Collazo fight was alarming, Mayweather fight speaks for itself and then you have the Lazcano fight where Hatton was clearly buzzed in something like the 8th round by a fighter who was a Golden Boy fighter and was there for the pay day. Okay Malanaggi cannot punch but I dont think he will need to, to have Hatton in trouble.

You then have how harder a punch does Hatton have - he has bullied the majority of his fighters by the volume of punches - not by single concusive punchers.

The final point - is the change of trainer so late in the day of Hattons career - okay a fresh face in a lot of ways may do him some good - but to tell anyone who will listen to him that there has been quite a few changes for me is not the right thing for a fighter who reached world level by using tried and tested methods - iHatton should have changed one thing many years ago and now I feel it is too late and that is his lifestyle outside of the ring!!!!!

The final big factor and it is perhaps the biggest in my thoughts that Malalanaggi could possibly steal and I mean steal this fight by his hit and run tactics is how much did Cotto take out of Malanaggi?? was his last fight against Ndou mearly a blip because he knew the Hatton fight was already made so he took the foot off the gas and thought of the healthy pay day against Hatton rather than think of the fight at the time with Ndou.

Overall - I think Hatton's lifestyle has finally caught up with him - I think Malanaggi still has a big fight left in him and I honestly think Malanaggi will furstrate the life out of Hatton by running all night - Hatton I believe does not have the stamina to run after a man who will not stand in front of him and fight - the more the rounds go on the more frustrated he will become and that will lead to mistakes and enable Malanaggi to stand and trade by then Hatton will be knackered and this could heavily influence the judges to give the fight to Malanaggi.

Bloody hell I am exhausted after writing all that.

chesh wrote:Crease, Hatton outpointed Collazo by scores of 115-112, 115-112, 114-113 in a fight many thought him fortunate to win. I think he beat Juan Urango by margins of 119-109. I take your point about the "pundits" being over-critical, but Ricky's not exactly a novice any more. He's a superstar earning multi-million dollar paydays every fight, so I think high expectations of his performance are justified.

ALI wrote:Great headline that!

The Hatton who fought Tyszu would have torn Mailgnaggi up, busted him up to baloon like proportions.......... but that Hatton is long gone and its a guessing game now as to just how much Hatton has left. This fight is not cut and dried, Malignaggi has a shout at sneaking a points win if Hatton is poor on the night. He's not going to score a KO, thats just silly talk!

Spud wrote: But back to Hatton - you have forgotten a couple of factors in your summing up of Hatton - firstly and I believe it is the most important one - the "Kerry Kayes" factor - without him doing all but wipe Hatton's arse for him I honestly believe Hatton will not be the same fighter.

Coco wrote:Some fighters grow old overnight and Hatton's lifestle hasn't helped him, but he hasn't had too many gruelling bouts, and nothing he has done in the ring yet suggest to me his engine or punch resistance is faulty

WildWaylon wrote:

Coco wrote:Some fighters grow old overnight and Hatton's lifestle hasn't helped him, but he hasn't had too many gruelling bouts, and nothing he has done in the ring yet suggest to me his engine or punch resistance is faulty

The arguement is not how you saw him in the ring before but how will he perform now with all the changes. Thats what we all need to see, and what Hatton himself needs to find out. He admits he doesnt have the same confidence anymore. He says he doesnt want to get hit charging in to get his body punches off. Is Hattons mind still a winning one? We cant judge him from past performances, we need to see him in action again, to decide. Kayes and Graham were always there by his side, I think it must be pretty lonely training up on that freezing bloody mountain early in the morning.

'I gotta say, he's one who learns quick. I can tell him somethin' in the ring, he go right out there and do it. Perfect. Just like that. Sometimes you gotta show a fighter somethin' two or three times. Ricky? Once. He does it, he goes right there.'

ALI wrote:Great headline that!

The Hatton who fought Tyszu would have torn Mailgnaggi up, busted him up to baloon like proportions.......... but that Hatton is long gone and its a guessing game now as to just how much Hatton has left. This fight is not cut and dried, Malignaggi has a shout at sneaking a points win if Hatton is poor on the night. He's not going to score a KO, thats just silly talk!

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

Spud wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Hatton will pulverise him and I very much think Hatton has declined.

But Maglianaggi is a dilute version of what he needs to be to win.

A slippery fighter doesn't get tagged as much as he does.

Just because he uses tweezers on his eyebrows doesn't mean he's hard to hit.

I think Hatton will look better against Mag.

But he still only 70% of his best, at best.

More than enough for Paulie.

David,

Lets hope you are right - British Boxing in my view needs the likes of Calzaghe, Hatton, Haye and Froch too keep on winning - if they do not the transition to those coming through the ranks to hopefully hit the world ranks is going to be vast - seriously if the above mentioned fall away who else do we have ready to step into their shoes now??

But back to Hatton - you have forgotten a couple of factors in your summing up of Hatton - firstly and I believe it is the most important one - the "Kerry Kayes" factor - without him doing all but wipe Hatton's arse for him I honestly believe Hatton will not be the same fighter.

Couple that with Hatton clearly not liking "fancy dan" fighters who box and run and who also have the necessary footwork to steal the fight with a few pitter patter jabs here and there - I honestly think Hatton has a whole lot of problems coming his way!!!

Then I suppose you could add in another factor - what is Hattons punch resistance like? - Collazo fight was alarming, Mayweather fight speaks for itself and then you have the Lazcano fight where Hatton was clearly buzzed in something like the 8th round by a fighter who was a Golden Boy fighter and was there for the pay day. Okay Malanaggi cannot punch but I dont think he will need to, to have Hatton in trouble.

You then have how harder a punch does Hatton have - he has bullied the majority of his fighters by the volume of punches - not by single concusive punchers.

The final point - is the change of trainer so late in the day of Hattons career - okay a fresh face in a lot of ways may do him some good - but to tell anyone who will listen to him that there has been quite a few changes for me is not the right thing for a fighter who reached world level by using tried and tested methods - iHatton should have changed one thing many years ago and now I feel it is too late and that is his lifestyle outside of the ring!!!!!

The final big factor and it is perhaps the biggest in my thoughts that Malalanaggi could possibly steal and I mean steal this fight by his hit and run tactics is how much did Cotto take out of Malanaggi?? was his last fight against Ndou mearly a blip because he knew the Hatton fight was already made so he took the foot off the gas and thought of the healthy pay day against Hatton rather than think of the fight at the time with Ndou.

Overall - I think Hatton's lifestyle has finally caught up with him - I think Malanaggi still has a big fight left in him and I honestly think Malanaggi will furstrate the life out of Hatton by running all night - Hatton I believe does not have the stamina to run after a man who will not stand in front of him and fight - the more the rounds go on the more frustrated he will become and that will lead to mistakes and enable Malanaggi to stand and trade by then Hatton will be knackered and this could heavily influence the judges to give the fight to Malanaggi.

Bloody hell I am exhausted after writing all that.

Funny how you never said any of this when you were "associated" with the Hatton camp, isnt it?

Spud wrote:

Spud wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Hatton will pulverise him and I very much think Hatton has declined.

But Maglianaggi is a dilute version of what he needs to be to win.

A slippery fighter doesn't get tagged as much as he does.

Just because he uses tweezers on his eyebrows doesn't mean he's hard to hit.

I think Hatton will look better against Mag.

But he still only 70% of his best, at best.

More than enough for Paulie.

David,

Lets hope you are right - British Boxing in my view needs the likes of Calzaghe, Hatton, Haye and Froch too keep on winning - if they do not the transition to those coming through the ranks to hopefully hit the world ranks is going to be vast - seriously if the above mentioned fall away who else do we have ready to step into their shoes now??

But back to Hatton - you have forgotten a couple of factors in your summing up of Hatton - firstly and I believe it is the most important one - the "Kerry Kayes" factor - without him doing all but wipe Hatton's arse for him I honestly believe Hatton will not be the same fighter.

Couple that with Hatton clearly not liking "fancy dan" fighters who box and run and who also have the necessary footwork to steal the fight with a few pitter patter jabs here and there - I honestly think Hatton has a whole lot of problems coming his way!!!

Then I suppose you could add in another factor - what is Hattons punch resistance like? - Collazo fight was alarming, Mayweather fight speaks for itself and then you have the Lazcano fight where Hatton was clearly buzzed in something like the 8th round by a fighter who was a Golden Boy fighter and was there for the pay day. Okay Malanaggi cannot punch but I dont think he will need to, to have Hatton in trouble.

You then have how harder a punch does Hatton have - he has bullied the majority of his fighters by the volume of punches - not by single concusive punchers.

The final point - is the change of trainer so late in the day of Hattons career - okay a fresh face in a lot of ways may do him some good - but to tell anyone who will listen to him that there has been quite a few changes for me is not the right thing for a fighter who reached world level by using tried and tested methods - iHatton should have changed one thing many years ago and now I feel it is too late and that is his lifestyle outside of the ring!!!!!

The final big factor and it is perhaps the biggest in my thoughts that Malalanaggi could possibly steal and I mean steal this fight by his hit and run tactics is how much did Cotto take out of Malanaggi?? was his last fight against Ndou mearly a blip because he knew the Hatton fight was already made so he took the foot off the gas and thought of the healthy pay day against Hatton rather than think of the fight at the time with Ndou.

Overall - I think Hatton's lifestyle has finally caught up with him - I think Malanaggi still has a big fight left in him and I honestly think Malanaggi will furstrate the life out of Hatton by running all night - Hatton I believe does not have the stamina to run after a man who will not stand in front of him and fight - the more the rounds go on the more frustrated he will become and that will lead to mistakes and enable Malanaggi to stand and trade by then Hatton will be knackered and this could heavily influence the judges to give the fight to Malanaggi.

Bloody hell I am exhausted after writing all that.

Funny how you never said any of this when you were "associated" with the Hatton camp, isnt it?

KG,

You will notice that people are no longer interested in petty squabbles - they visit boxrec to discuss boxing - perhaps you should try it - instead of posting endless drivel which only ever involves sarcastic replies or pathetic one liners which I concede at one point were rather funny - but as with anything eventually things become boring and tiresome.

I am sure you know a tadge about boxing, perhaps you should not only enlighten yourself but also the forum with some of that knowledge - people are moving on and are not interested in endless spats with me - however I will answer your point for the final time.

It is extremely true - no I would not have been stupid enough to bring the points out I made above whilst I was associated with Hatton - its a bit like you going into your boss and calling him a f*cking W*nker and you walking away confused as to why you have just been sacked - its one of those rare occasions where I used my common sense.

I will repeat KG - move on and discuss boxing - or quite simply move on elsewhere no one is interested in getting involved in your pathetic vendetta and endless and boring one liners where you consistently attack people and think it is funny.

I have absolutely no problems in entering into boxing debate with you - see if you can do the same.

Thank you

Regards

Spud