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Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 04:40
by Poncey
What a shock, a Calzaghe thread that turns into a debate about his resumé.

Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 06:44
by Goz
boxerbob wrote:does anyone think that the names i have mentioned are world class???
if you do then you kow nothing about boxing
14 title defences vs nothing does not make you great
if eubank and benn had they opponents they would be undefeated for years too
calzaghe has not fought a great in his prime - why is that????
ps: will calzaghe be able to look in the mirror and say he fought the best....if he says yes then he is a liar
hatton went and fought mayweather
hamed went and fought barrera
benn went and fought mcclelland
eubank fought benn
lewis fought ruddock
mcguigan fought pedroza
want me to go on with british greats fighting real fighters who would test them???.....even haye went away to win his 1st world title.....stay at home joe didnt want to fly but found his wings when everyone got old
great -- never.....greats are tested...joe didnt want to be tested
The first 2/3 I'll give you, Joe hasn't gone across the water and taken on a peak P4P'er.
However the last 3 Calzaghe has comparable performances on his record. You don't sound very old to me and I suspect you are looking at Razor Ruddock and Pedroza's record without actually knowing very much about them.
Pedroza was past his best, and Ruddock basically had a name for giving Tyson a losing argument and little else. Calzaghe's wins over Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins are up there with those wins for Mcuigan and Lennox.
But thanks for posting Boxerbob you guru of the fight scene
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Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 06:56
by m1kee50
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:What a shock, a Calzaghe thread that turns into a debate about his resumé.

also, a pudendum who thinks the line "you don't know boxing" is an effective argument. It's the British Alabama_Man
Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 07:05
by Poncey
MatthewS wrote:Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:What a shock, a Calzaghe thread that turns into a debate about his resumé.

also, a pudendum who thinks the line "you don't know boxing" is an effective argument. It's the British Alabama_Man
I'm monitoring.
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Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 22:47
by jonp
It says Benn went and fought mclellan? Where did he go and fight him it wa over here.
Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 13:18
by Khaosai-Galaxy
boxerbob wrote:you have to write in and guess what the queen said to him when awarding his c/obe...in 20 words
hers mine.....
are sobat , gimmenez , thornberry , starie , sheika , veit, mkrtchain , mcintyre , pudwill , salem , ashira , bika , manfredo...world class joe??....thought so lol
thats 14 of his title defences - not very good is it......big big reason he is undefeated....FACT
Man, thats some funny shit, right there
Did you write for "A bit of Fry and Laurie" by any chance?
Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 14:08
by Maelstrom
G0mez wrote:It's not the names on the record (although there are a few light middles there). . . It's the fact that in 11 long years only 22 were fought.
Hatton made 16 defences of his WBU bauble.... in just 3 years.
Not sure what your point is here Gomez. Would you rather he defended a WBU Title regularly?
Re: setantas - joe calzaghes competition
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 17:32
by ALI
I'm a Calzaghe fan and always have been, but i'm a rational man and boxerbob is not to far from the truth, at least in my opinion anyway.
Clazaghe has redeemed himself in most peoples eyes over the last 2, maybe 3 years, but lets not forget the history. He was under an emmense amount of public pressure at the time he took the Lacy fight. Fans everywhere were voicing their opinions saying he was the biggest waste of talent ever to step between the ropes. The Yanks, us Brits, christ almost everybody everywhere had had it with him fighting stiffs year after year after year. He was being slagged rotten, he was all set to retire with little respect from anyone. The pressure had gone beyond boiling point. It was only then that Calzaghe FINALLY took on a real live challenger. He has since fought Kessler, i'll give him props for that, but Hopkins in my opinion does not really count, no matter how good he had been looking in recent fights. Calzaghe barely won that fight, all it really showed me was what the likely outcome would have been had they met around the turn of the century. As for Jones Jr..... please!
Calzaghe is being hailed as the greatest British fighter ever but thats nonsense. Lacy has since been proved sh*t, Kessler has still yet to prove himself if the truth be told. Both Hopkins and Jones were old men. All those years of dodging. Joes record just does not stand up.