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Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 15:03
by Spud
G0mez wrote:EddieShredder wrote:
Graham Earl - again, nice guy.... but if he won't quit off his own back, someone needs to stop him before he gets hurt badly
Talk about retire in 2009.......this cat should have turned it in about 3+ years ago.
Shot ? more like atom-bombed.
Spoke to him a couple of weeks ago - he stated to me he wants to box on - says making Lightweight was doing his b*llocks in - he was suggesting to me he is going to give Light Welterweight a go.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 17:10
by rhino222
bad move for him im afraid, his love of the game is potentially going to ruin his long term health. his punch resistence has gone, it does not matter what weight he goes up to, he is shot.
im sorry to be so blunt graham, you had a good career, turn it in mate and good luck for the future.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 18:15
by stujones
Yep, only good think for Graham is his punch resistance has gone, he won't take many prolonged beatings now.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 18:26
by WildWaylon
Harrison,Williams,DLH,RJJ, Holyfield and Earl.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 18:33
by WildWaylon
Spud wrote:G0mez wrote:EddieShredder wrote:
Graham Earl - again, nice guy.... but if he won't quit off his own back, someone needs to stop him before he gets hurt badly
Talk about retire in 2009.......this cat should have turned it in about 3+ years ago.
Shot ? more like atom-bombed.
Spoke to him a couple of weeks ago - he stated to me he wants to box on - says making Lightweight was doing his b*llocks in - he was suggesting to me he is going to give Light Welterweight a go.
Earl has definately had his day. Maybe stay in boxing training lads. He should quit now off his own bat before the issue is decided for him. (Not back - if you do something off your own bat, you do it without anyone else telling you or asking you to do it).
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 23:43
by whicker
Not sure, but Witter? His plans don't seem to be very clear at the moment, although I might simply have missed a thread. Hard to say really where he will go.
Also, Esham Pickering- nice guy, but I can't see his career being much more than the "opponent" role from now on, but then- never say never.
There are also guys like John Simpson, Jon Thaxton and Ryan Rhodes- success will almost certainly mean they carry on, but defeats at this stage probably will bring the curtain down on their long careers.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 08:42
by WildWaylon
whicker wrote:Not sure, but Witter? His plans don't seem to be very clear at the moment, although I might simply have missed a thread. Hard to say really where he will go.
Also, Esham Pickering- nice guy, but I can't see his career being much more than the "opponent" role from now on, but then- never say never.
There are also guys like John Simpson, Jon Thaxton and Ryan Rhodes- success will almost certainly mean they carry on, but defeats at this stage probably will bring the curtain down on their long careers.
I agree with the points you make. As far as Witter is concerned, I think he still has plenty left and just needs a bit of luck getting some decent fights.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 19:32
by Dioufy
John Simpson, retire? I don't think so, because even though he's had a few defeats, they have mostly come against very top domestic fighters, mainly, Mathews, Foster and Appleby. He also has Truscott soon as well, another top prospect.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 00:11
by whicker
Dioufy wrote:John Simpson, retire? I don't think so, because even though he's had a few defeats, they have mostly come against very top domestic fighters, mainly, Mathews, Foster and Appleby. He also has Truscott soon as well, another top prospect.
Yeah, fair point- and I didn't realise he was only 26- I thought he was a bit older (no disrespect meant by that, of course.)
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 08:08
by twenty six
Are you for real ?
You think the current British Light Middleweight Champ, and WBC International belt holder, with a top 10 World rating should pack it in ?
There's a dodgy area in Sheffield called the Whicker.
Maybe Rhodesy could meet up with you there, and show you how much he's ready to retire ......
You know f .. all about boxing.
It's interesting that all the guys you name bar Simpson have plied their trade in Sheffield.
Got a grudge ?
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Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 08:23
by Scrap
Having known Clinton Woods a few year, at the moment He is as clear as a Bell.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 08:42
by m1kee50
not neccessarily agreeing with anyone but what if Rhodes gets a title shot and gets what lockett got?
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 08:44
by whicker
twenty six wrote:Are you for real ?
You think the current British Light Middleweight Champ, and WBC International belt holder, with a top 10 World rating should pack it in ?
Mate, please read the full post...
I said--
"...Ryan Rhodes-
success will almost certainly mean they carry on, but defeats at this stage probably will bring the curtain down on their long careers."
My point, which I'll stand by, is at their age guys like Thaxton and Rhodes, with the length of the careers that they have had, mean that defeats in 2009 may well mean the end of their long careers.
Regarding Witter- what is the guy actually doing? As I say, if he were to mount a successful challenge for a belt, his career would be well on track, however a defeat...
MatthewS wrote:not neccessarily agreeing with anyone but what if Rhodes gets a title shot and gets what lockett got?
That could happen with Jennings, which would be a real shame for him. However, I think he will lose in the WBO title challenge, but look credible and maybe be in line for European level title fights.
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 09:07
by Captain Hook
I think twentysix should definitely retire in 2009, he's taken a few hammerings this year :)
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 10:03
by Spud
Scrap wrote:Having known Clinton Woods a few year, at the moment He is as clear as a Bell.
Theres life in Clinton yet - positive of that - we shall see wont we on 14 Feb 09 - in Jersey against Muriqi!!!
I do concede though if he does not win then he seriously needs to look at his options - but Clinton is as honest as they come he won't need anyone telling when to go - he has told me straight this is his last shot at something big - if it doesn't work out then he has had one dam good career - better than many who showed promise and failed to deliver - Clinton has legitimately won a world title and defended it and how many boxers can say that?
To be honest commenting on this thread gives me that uncomfortable feeling - its a thread worthy of discussion and people have a right to their opinions - its just one of those threads where if you didn't realise the harsh realities of boxing then threads like this give you that kick to remind you - it wouldn't surprise me at all many boxers reading this thread - start saying who the f*ck are they to say when I should retire - so which either side of the fence you sit on - this thread should stir a few things up!!!
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 10:58
by twenty six
Whicker,
Rhodes has just celebrated his 32nd birthday.
Why do you consider that age to be against him ?
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 11:00
by twenty six
Hook,
I've taken no hammerings mate.
Martini time ........

any time, any place, anywhere

Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 11:23
by beagleboy
twenty six wrote:Are you for real ?
You think the current British Light Middleweight Champ, and WBC International belt holder, with a top 10 World rating should pack it in ?
There's a dodgy area in Sheffield called the Whicker.
Maybe Rhodesy could meet up with you there, and show you how much he's ready to retire ......
You know f .. all about boxing.
It's interesting that all the guys you name bar Simpson have plied their trade in Sheffield.
Got a grudge ?
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Which organisation has Rhodes in the top 10 ?
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Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 12:01
by DG.
Spud wrote:Scrap wrote:Having known Clinton Woods a few year, at the moment He is as clear as a Bell.
Theres life in Clinton yet - positive of that - we shall see wont we on 14 Feb 09 - in Jersey against Muriqi!!!
I do concede though if he does not win then he seriously needs to look at his options - but Clinton is as honest as they come he won't need anyone telling when to go - he has told me straight this is his last shot at something big - if it doesn't work out then he has had one dam good career - better than many who showed promise and failed to deliver - Clinton has legitimately won a world title and defended it and how many boxers can say that?
To be honest commenting on this thread gives me that uncomfortable feeling - its a thread worthy of discussion and people have a right to their opinions - its just one of those threads where if you didn't realise the harsh realities of boxing then threads like this give you that kick to remind you - it wouldn't surprise me at all many boxers reading this thread - start saying who the f*ck are they to say when I should retire - so which either side of the fence you sit on - this thread should stir a few things up!!!
It is another Legendary DG thread, I agree with most of the guys nominated to retire, if we did not care then we would want to see them continue fighting when past their best and in 20 years time they may not know they were fighters.
Another DG thread that should be pinned throughout 2009.
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Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 12:05
by Captain Hook
twenty six wrote:Hook,
I've taken no hammerings mate.
Martini time ........

any time, any place, anywhere

I'd beat you so bad you'd be crying for Rhodes to come and help you, then I'd beat him as well, then Klitshko (both), then Pacquio and Haye...
..I'm just hoping this pink fizz doesn't wear off before the big day :)
At least you'd have a solicitor to talk to about it

Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 12:06
by Captain Hook
beagleboy wrote:twenty six wrote:Are you for real ?
You think the current British Light Middleweight Champ, and WBC International belt holder, with a top 10 World rating should pack it in ?
There's a dodgy area in Sheffield called the Whicker.
Maybe Rhodesy could meet up with you there, and show you how much he's ready to retire ......
You know f .. all about boxing.
It's interesting that all the guys you name bar Simpson have plied their trade in Sheffield.
Got a grudge ?
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Which organisation has Rhodes in the top 10 ?
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WBC isn't it.....number 10?
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 12:47
by beagleboy
Captain Hook wrote:beagleboy wrote:twenty six wrote:Are you for real ?
You think the current British Light Middleweight Champ, and WBC International belt holder, with a top 10 World rating should pack it in ?
There's a dodgy area in Sheffield called the Whicker.
Maybe Rhodesy could meet up with you there, and show you how much he's ready to retire ......
You know f .. all about boxing.
It's interesting that all the guys you name bar Simpson have plied their trade in Sheffield.
Got a grudge ?
![[icon_shame.gif] :shame:](./images/smilies/icon_shame.gif)
Which organisation has Rhodes in the top 10 ?
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WBC isn't it.....number 10?
At the moment Jamie Moore is no.10, Rhodes is no.27 but he has beaten Vuma since who is no.18
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Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 12:51
by Captain Hook
I'm sure he said WBC.....number 27?
Well he beat Vuma....
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 12:54
by Captain Hook
Rhodes needs to get a move on with the IBO, he's only no 33.......travesty, he'll be devastated :)
Re: Retire in 2009
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 13:25
by DG.
Captain Hook wrote:Rhodes needs to get a move on with the IBO, he's only no 33.......travesty, he'll be devastated :)
The IBO has the best ratings system of them all!
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