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Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 17:43
by Autobarn
terminator wrote:LOL If khan was to fight McAllister ppl would have accused him of fighting another featherfisted bum
I hope Murray wins this and get's a fight with Khan next
Power and strength is what troubles Khan.
Movement is what can trouble Murray.
I see McAllister and yes Scott Lawton as decent fights for Murray. But all the same I cannot see the Michael Gomez of the Johanesson and Khan fights making any kind of impact on Murray.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 17:51
by Exoddus
I wrote Harrison off after his first fight too.
Tyson Fury is a bum. Simple.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 17:57
by Autobarn
Even if he is a bum - which I don't know, because I wasn't really paying attention to his fight - he can make a bit of money before anyone finds out. There is always fascination with a big great heavyweight hopes, promoters can never resist, but over here it seldom goes anywhere.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 11 Jan 2009, 18:49
by d
Chisora has improved immensely.
Saw his debut and really didnt think he was upto much, but he's come on in leaps and bounds.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 08:23
by Pugilist-specialist
Spud wrote:G0mez wrote:That debut was only a cameo for Tyson Fury.I believe they rushed him through for his pro licence to get on the show, so not the promotion's fault.
At the end of the day they got him a slot on national telly on his debut which aint bad going...
What a load of b*llocks!!!
Gomez is spot on.
Fury is in much better shape as you will see on Saturday
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 12:41
by Asterix
Pugilist-specialist wrote:Gomez is spot on.
Fury is in much better shape as you will see on Saturday
I'm looking forward to it. I hope the opponent is decent enough.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 14:22
by Autobarn
Seems like the heavyweights always get us talking. Hence the Murray thread mutating into a Fury thread.
Back to Murray. Hope he wins on Sat. The following week there is Lawton v Castle and I'd love to see Murray beat McAllister and take on the Lawton-Castle winner.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 14:41
by JimJim2009
I can't be arsed cutting and pasting, but coming back to defend myself a bit, somebody said Tyson Fury's a rubbish boxer, there's a comment above along the same lines, and a few other negative ones.
My point was, putting the boot in or writing a guy off after a first round win in his pro debut seems to be a bit daft to me. At this point in his career it could go either way, but getting rid of the opponent in a round is as good as can be hoped for in your debut. His promoter seemed very happy, ditto his trainer, and ITV liked it too.
Good luck to him, anyway.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 06:29
by Maelstrom
JimJim2009 wrote:... but getting rid of the opponent in a round is as good as can be hoped for in your debut. His promoter seemed very happy, ditto his trainer...
Sorry mate - but your logic is again flawed.
Was his win actually as good as could be hoped for? Just for the sake of the argument, say he beat Audley Harrison on pts over four rounds. Wouldn't that have been more impressive?
And as for his promoter looking happy - what do you expect! He is trying to sell him!
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 14:45
by JimJim2009
When you zoom in on things to this degree, it just gets silly. Heavyweight prospects turn pro against bums, and getting rid of them early is the general idea/ideal scenario.
To come up with hypothetical scenarios like if Tyson Fury had turned pro and won a decision over Audley Harrison, and if so would that have been a better outcome than what actually happened, is a bit daft to me so I'm going to leave this thread alone now.
I posted a few comments in response to what I thought were premature judgements on a young fighter who's only had one round of boxing as a pro. That remains my view but I'm not that bothered really
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Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 18:49
by Spud
Pugilist-specialist wrote:Spud wrote:G0mez wrote:That debut was only a cameo for Tyson Fury.I believe they rushed him through for his pro licence to get on the show, so not the promotion's fault.
At the end of the day they got him a slot on national telly on his debut which aint bad going...
What a load of b*llocks!!!
Gomez is spot on.
Fury is in much better shape as you will see on Saturday
Nah I was having a pop at Gomez !!! for giving the promoter and even Fury for so called "having" to turn pro when he did - or "everything was done in a rush".
I will repeat myself - I hope Fury succeeds it will be good news to see some more heavyweights coming through!!! - good luck to him.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 04:27
by Maelstrom
JimJim2009 wrote:When you zoom in on things to this degree, it just gets silly. Heavyweight prospects turn pro against bums, and getting rid of them early is the general idea/ideal scenario.
To come up with hypothetical scenarios like if Tyson Fury had turned pro and won a decision over Audley Harrison, and if so would that have been a better outcome than what actually happened, is a bit daft to me so I'm going to leave this thread alone now.
I posted a few comments in response to what I thought were premature judgements on a young fighter who's only had one round of boxing as a pro. That remains my view but I'm not that bothered really
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Nah mate - it is you that is silly. Your logic has been disproven about 28 times.
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Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 11:31
by JimJim2009
I'm embarrassed for you Maelstrom

Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 12:42
by BABY BLUE
well i heard that murrays people went to khans people to negotiate a fight between the pair but murray does not want to challenge for his British titles so the fight fell through.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 14:28
by Dioufy
Looking forward to tomorrow - I hope we see the Murray from the Meager fight, if we do, then McAllister's stands no chance.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 20:01
by Maelstrom
JimJim2009 wrote:I'm embarrassed for you Maelstrom

No your not mate... that is just a crude way of trying to get out of the bashing you got.
Read back through...
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 08:54
by Spud
I seriously cannot wait for this fight tonight - it might not be exciting but the outcome intrigues me.
Re: John Murray "I will shine in 2009"
Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 09:05
by Autobarn
Any weigh in info?