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ya-ni wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:

ya-ni wrote:to bad hayes wants to fight the brothers so soon,,,if he took a couple of years to pre-pare, he might beat wlad, but the way he going with a punchers chance, he must not believe enough in himself to build his record at heavys, against top guy which barrett is not, cause if he took his time an built his record,,,,,This show down good be very big, money wise,,,,,right now it making HBO because of wlad,,,,2 years this could make PPV,,,which is alot more money...........If i was the brothers i would tell the guy to go prove himself, wlad will get no credit for this victory,,,,,,,He has NOTHING to gain......

Can everybody stop looking for the missing link I've found him!!

Yeah Hayes targetting the 2 best fighters in the division because 'he doesn't believe in himself' , never in all my born days have I read anything quite so ridiculous.

Targeting the two biggest MONEY fights in the division,,,,how brave,,balls like that people should wonder how he has't been made the new king of england.....There a long line for that same request, an the person in front of those lines are call mandatorys, they actully fought other heavweights to get there, not one or two, but several an some even fought barrett, they had to test them selves at this weightclass many times,,,,,How many do you think in that line would have a nice punchers chance agaisnt wlad,,,an the money that comes from that shot just makes it that much better, no question they would want cut in line an become the heavyweight challenger

world ranked wrote:

Spud wrote:

ya-ni wrote: to bad hayes wants to fight the brothers so soon,,,if he took a couple of years to pre-pare, he might beat wlad, but the way he going with a punchers chance, he must not believe enough in himself to build his record at heavys, against top guy which barrett is not, cause if he took his time an built his record,,,,,This show down good be very big, money wise,,,,,right now it making HBO because of wlad,,,,2 years this could make PPV,,,which is alot more money...........If i was the brothers i would tell the guy to go prove himself, wlad will get no credit for this victory,,,,,,,He has NOTHING to gain......

Are you for real?

Why does David Haye have to prove himself?

If you know anything at all about David Haye at all you will look at his record and see he is prepared to get in there with the best - and if its not the best he is certainly prepared to test himself against quality opponents. Now if you do not think wins against Maccarinelli in such impressive style and the win against Mormeck is enough - and in addition if being the Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion Of The World - then testing himself against Heavyweights that have fought at a relatively high level which incidentally Barrett has then you really have not got a grasp on the realities of Boxing.

As for your theories about HBO only being interested in the Klitschko's again you are f*cking nuts - they are interested massively in David Haye as they view him as one of the most exciting boxers in world boxing - they also want to showcase his fights due to the fact he is prepared to take risks and he is prepared to get in the ring with the best in the division - surely that is what boxing fans have been crying out for years - a boxer who is prepared to take risks against the best!!!

With regards to your comments concerning the money surrounding the fight - again please take the happy pills and get urgent medical attention - the money that would be generated in Haye fighting "The Klitschko's" is huge and that is why the fights need to be taken now - can you imagine if Haye was to fight Wladimir and beat him - just in that fight it is a huge multi million pound fight in this country - but if he were to beat him - what does that make a Vitali v Haye fight worth?

As for your b*llocks in the last quote - the heavyweight division was the one time glamour division of boxing - in recent years many will argue not only has it been severly weakened by the lack of genuine world class heavyweights - it has also been weakened by the governing bodies and the politics surrounding the sport in not allowing the best to fight each other - The Klitschko's and Haye are bringing intrigue and some excitement back to the division - if they were to fight - it would generate a huge amount of interest - and just watch the other world champions within the division fall over themselves to finally get what the heavyweight divsion needs - an Undisputed Champion.

Haye if nothing else has caused excitement and interest in an otherwise dead division - his challenges has certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons - and with their reluctance to fight him - I would suggest its not Haye but the Klitschkos who do not as you have put it in your posts "believe in themselves" by trying their best to swerve Haye!!!

he caused excitement in England that's it. No one but Nuthuggers are clamoring for Haye-Klitschko. No one in
America is clamoring for Haye vs either Klitschko. Not in Germany or Candada only in England, Anyone who Knows
boxing would Say Haye would get KO'd, but if he was to win he's no savior of the division, because whoever he beat for
the title in a rematch would still be favorited over Haye. Haye KO's at Cruserweight means nothing at heayweight.

world ranked wrote:Your just angry your Boy's not getting the next title which he did deserve over someone who won a title elimanator.
Another british fighter who is over hyped. For every boring UD fight there's a Pascal-Froch, Margarito-Cotto,
Villa-Mtawga, Adamek-Cunningham. If you get off just the heavyweight savior crap there's actually some good
fights in Boxing outside of heavyweight. Haye can't save the Heavyweight division

earsjohn wrote:

world ranked wrote:Your just angry your Boy's not getting the next title which he did deserve over someone who won a title elimanator.
Another british fighter who is over hyped. For every boring UD fight there's a Pascal-Froch, Margarito-Cotto,
Villa-Mtawga, Adamek-Cunningham. If you get off just the heavyweight savior crap there's actually some good
fights in Boxing outside of heavyweight. Haye can't save the Heavyweight division

I couldn't give a monkeys whether David Haye gets a title shot, the relevance of each of the alpha-belts is severley diminished in my consideration and a fight doesn't need to have sanctioning body support to be either an enticing prospect or even for the no 1 spot in a particular division. Haye fighting either Vlad or Vitali is the single (you know what I mean) most exciting fight to be made north of 200lbs (excepting the impossible dream of Vlad v Vit!) and that is the fight I want to see. Every nay-sayer who comes on here (or other sites, writes in to magazines, etc) whines about how Haye doesn't deserve a title shot and that he should get in line, thus condemning us fans to more of the same from the dying division.

I really can't think that anyone would want to see Vitali v Gomez, more than Vitali v Haye. Are you in that group?

Yes there are splendid fights at all weights and each of the ones you mention were fantastic battles that I certainly appreciated. But, only 2 of the fights were shown on UK TV, only one on free-to-air TV, so they are not going to get people talking about and watching boxing. An exciting Heavyweight World title fight, between someone who has demonstrated throughout his career that he is willing to take risks and can punch his weight and one of the two men generally acknowledged as at the top will get people talking and, more importantly, watching. The Heavyweight division has always been a useful barometer for the health of boxing, and while there is no money to be made in Heavyweight fights, TV will remain less enthusiastic (ie, more frugal) when it comes to boxing in general. This, in turn, hurts boxing and boxing fans at all levels.