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Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 05:43
by banjo
sg1985 wrote:Chambers2 wrote:vagabundo55 wrote:From a Brit's point who ducked who and why do you believe it was so?
It's not even debatable, Hatton ducked Witter for nigh on a decade and he used every excuse in the book and more
yeah he ducked him to fight easier fights like tyzsu and mayweather
That's a bit unfair that, what about the four years inbetween Witter calling him out and the fight with Tszyu?
You seriously telling me that John Bailey, Carlos Vilches, Rios, Stephen Smith and Dennis Pederson were bigger fights??
I'd loved to have seen it because I am now certain that Hatton would have won
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 05:43
by Chambers2
sg1985 wrote:Chambers2 wrote:vagabundo55 wrote:From a Brit's point who ducked who and why do you believe it was so?
It's not even debatable, Hatton ducked Witter for nigh on a decade and he used every excuse in the book and more
yeah he ducked him to fight easier fights like tyzsu and mayweather
I was thinking more of
Tony Pep
Jason Rowland
John Bailey
Freddie Pendleton
Juston Rowsell
Mikhail Krivolapov
Stephen Smith
Joe Hutchinson
Vince Phillips
Dennis Pedersen
Carlos Vilches
Michael Stewart
Ray Oliveira
Carlos Maussa
Luis Collazo
Juan Urango
JLC
Juan Lazcano
Paulie Mallignaggi
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 05:47
by Chambers2
sg1985 wrote:
Luis Collazo
Juan Urango
JLC
Juan Lazcano
Paulie Mallignaggi
all these guys would've done a number on witter
I don't think so, especially the JLC that turned up to fight Ricky
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 05:56
by banjo
Chambers2 wrote:
I was thinking more of
Tony Pep - I agree, should have fought Witter
Jason Rowland - decent domestic rival, no problems
John Bailey - I agree, should have fought Witter
Freddie Pendleton - Past it but brought more to the table money wise
Juston Rowsell - I agree, should have fought Witter
Mikhail Krivolapov - Was quite highly ranked by a couple of the alphabet organisations so it made sense
Stephen Smith - I agree, should have fought Witter
Joe Hutchinson - Was a decent fighter, no problem
Vince Phillips - Past it but brought dollars to the table, makes sense
Dennis Pedersen I agree, should have fought Witter
Carlos Vilches - I agree should have fought Witter
Michael Stewart - Was an IBF eliminator so it makes sense
Ray Oliveira - Never had a problem with this, Ray was a tough fighter and had never been stopped before
Carlos Maussa - fortunate champion but held a belt, brought more to the table than the beltless Witter
Luis Collazo - see Carlos Maussa
Juan Urango - I agree, should have fought Witter
JLC - Money fight, nuff said
Juan Lazcano - I agree should have fought Witter
Paulie Mallignaggi - Witter held no title, Americans were interested in the Paulie fight, more money hence why it happened
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 06:10
by Chambers2
sg1985 wrote:Chambers2 wrote:sg1985 wrote:
Luis Collazo
Juan Urango
JLC
Juan Lazcano
Paulie Mallignaggi
all these guys would've done a number on witter
I don't think so, especially the JLC that turned up to fight Ricky
what was wrong the jlc who turned up to fight hatton?
He was washed up
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 06:27
by Chambers2
sg1985 wrote:
why cos he got beat? the fight was competative as long as it lasted to say he was washed up is daft
The fight wasn't competitive it was a one-sided 4 round beat down from Ricky. Excellent performance from Ricky, but people are quite right to question what JLC had left in the tank. He was extremely lucky to get the nod in his previous fight with Herman Ngoudjo and JLC was plagued with weightmaking problems towards the end of his career (and prior to Ricky), so his dedication can also be brought into question
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 11:14
by mark thompson
Juan Urango would destroy Witter no danger.
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 11:28
by mark thompson
Terence wrote:Chambers2 wrote:
I was thinking more of
Tony Pep
Jason Rowland
John Bailey
Freddie Pendleton
Juston Rowsell
Mikhail Krivolapov
Stephen Smith
Joe Hutchinson
Vince Phillips
Dennis Pedersen
Carlos Vilches
Michael Stewart
Ray Oliveira
Carlos Maussa
Luis Collazo
Juan Urango
JLC
Juan Lazcano
Paulie Mallignaggi
The names in bold all brought more to the table. Collzao and Urango are still welcome on US TV and produce in title fights. See Berto-Collazo.
What about Rowland that was a good domestic fight between 2 prospects.
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 11:33
by banjo
mark thompson wrote:
What about Rowland that was a good domestic fight between 2 prospects.
Rowland was quite an established name back then as a former British champion but was still a decent fight.
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 11:53
by stujones
You can bold JLC for sure Terry also, maybe it is my eyesight playing up.
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 12:00
by whicker
It's not going to happen.
I think the reason is that Hatton's wish not to lose to Witter outweights his desire to beat him. If that makes sense?
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 12:09
by Chambers2
whicker wrote:I think the reason is that Hatton's wish not to lose to Witter outweights his desire to beat him. If that makes sense?
It does make sense and it's spot on
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 12:14
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
mark thompson wrote:Juan Urango would destroy Witter if Witter was fast asleep and didnt first get woken up from his sleep with the wind from the slow slow slow powerful orbit of the haymaker.
Fixed
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 12:17
by mark thompson
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:mark thompson wrote:Juan Urango would destroy Witter .
Fixed
Re: Witter v Hatton
Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 06:19
by Twinkle Toes
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:mark thompson wrote:Juan Urango would destroy Witter if Witter was fast asleep and didnt first get woken up from his sleep with the wind from the slow slow slow powerful orbit of the haymaker.
Fixed
You mean like the one that Bradley put him on his arse with?