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MR T wrote:Kell picks his punches really well, nice to see straight accurate shots. However, he looks a little open and square on at times, I wonder how his chin will hold up in sterner company? I believe he was dropped earlier in his career, correct me if i'm wrong.

arnt most ingle boxers open? I remember watching that Mcintosh and he was open aswell.

emma wrote:Why should Kell be ashamed of himself? he can only fight whos put infront of him.

Did he object when this fight was made? He seemed happy enough after the fight.

If he did not have a go at Warren and try to get a more respectable opponent, then he is largely to blame for the debacle I just witnessed.

emma wrote:Not his fault if hes special is it.

Beating Stuart Elwell does not prove that Brook is special. Elwell is barely in the top 20 domestically.

someone on the other forum said 'he sounds as camp as a row of pink tents when he opens his gob' :x Oh I say!

emma wrote:someone on the other forum said 'he sounds as camp as a row of pink tents when he opens his gob' :x Oh I say!

He sounds like the gay fella who works behind the bar at the Rovers.

Abbo wrote:

emma wrote:someone on the other forum said 'he sounds as camp as a row of pink tents when he opens his gob' :x Oh I say!

He sounds like the gay fella who works behind the bar at the Rovers.

sean? no he doesnt.

I don't think too much blame should be levelled at the match.

I think if Brook put his mind to it, he'd destroy almost all of the UK welters out there. Some would be more durable than Elwell mind.

Only Watson and Jennings could hold a candle to him.

Brook came out to 'Happy People' by R Kelly, Emma.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I don't think too much blame should be levelled at the match.

I think if Brook put his mind to it, he'd destroy almost all of the UK welters out there. Some would be more durable than Elwell mind.

Only Watson and Jennings could hold a candle to him.

Brook came out to 'Happy People' by R Kelly, Emma.

thank you sweetie.

Abbo wrote:

emma wrote:someone on the other forum said 'he sounds as camp as a row of pink tents when he opens his gob' :x Oh I say!

He sounds like the gay fella who works behind the bar at the Rovers.

I bet you wouldnt say that to his face.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I don't think too much blame should be levelled at the match.

I think if Brook put his mind to it, he'd destroy almost all of the UK welters out there. Some would be more durable than Elwell mind.

If he can destroy all of these fighters then why doesn't he fight them?

Jennings, Watson, Doherty, Anderson, Thompson, Hatton, Lomax, O'Donnell, Haughian & Mutley would all be good defences of his title and would bring much credibility and respect.

I think we would find out a heck of a lot more about Kell Brook if he fights this type of opponent, rather than fighters like Elwell.

Horse wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I don't think too much blame should be levelled at the match.

I think if Brook put his mind to it, he'd destroy almost all of the UK welters out there. Some would be more durable than Elwell mind.

If he can destroy all of these fighters then why doesn't he fight them?

Jennings, Watson, Doherty, Anderson, Thompson, Hatton, Lomax, O'Donnell, Haughian & Mutley would all be good defences of his title and would bring much credibility and respect.

I think we would find out a heck of a lot more about Kell Brook if he fights this type of opponent, rather than fighters like Elwell.

Very true but as we know British fighters don't like to fight each other and it's always a question of "he's ducking me" and so on and becomes a farce.

banjo wrote:

Horse wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I don't think too much blame should be levelled at the match.

I think if Brook put his mind to it, he'd destroy almost all of the UK welters out there. Some would be more durable than Elwell mind.

If he can destroy all of these fighters then why doesn't he fight them?

Jennings, Watson, Doherty, Anderson, Thompson, Hatton, Lomax, O'Donnell, Haughian & Mutley would all be good defences of his title and would bring much credibility and respect.

I think we would find out a heck of a lot more about Kell Brook if he fights this type of opponent, rather than fighters like Elwell.

Very true but as we know British fighters don't like to fight each other and it's always a question of "he's ducking me" and so on and becomes a farce.

I agree banjo as Doherty has been offered a fight with kell before but he went down to light welter, jennings is fighting cotto but matt hatton wnats to fight kell.....so he said on seconds out.

Horse wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I don't think too much blame should be levelled at the match.

I think if Brook put his mind to it, he'd destroy almost all of the UK welters out there. Some would be more durable than Elwell mind.

If he can destroy all of these fighters then why doesn't he fight them?

Jennings, Watson, Doherty, Anderson, Thompson, Hatton, Lomax, O'Donnell, Haughian & Mutley would all be good defences of his title and would bring much credibility and respect.

I think we would find out a heck of a lot more about Kell Brook if he fights this type of opponent, rather than fighters like Elwell.

Jesus Christ, give the f*cker a chance then. He's 22, FFS. He was supposed to fight at least two of your list and they both pulled out on him.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to imply Brook is somehow 'ducking' any of those from your list? Ye Gods.

emma wrote:someone on the other forum said 'he sounds as camp as a row of pink tents when he opens his gob' :x Oh I say!

He does!

DG. wrote:

emma wrote:someone on the other forum said 'he sounds as camp as a row of pink tents when he opens his gob' :x Oh I say!

He does!

but hes not gay.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Jesus Christ, give the f*cker a chance then. He's 22, FFS. He was supposed to fight at least two of your list and they both pulled out on him.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to imply Brook is somehow 'ducking' any of those from your list? Ye Gods.

That fight was a joke. That fight should have been a non-title fight, as Elwell is clearly not British title class.

Are you seriously saying that everyone that I listed was offered the fight? And that they all turned it down?

Horse wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Jesus Christ, give the f*cker a chance then. He's 22, FFS. He was supposed to fight at least two of your list and they both pulled out on him.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to imply Brook is somehow 'ducking' any of those from your list? Ye Gods.

That fight was a joke. That fight should have been a non-title fight, as Elwell is clearly not British title class.

Are you seriously saying that everyone that I listed was offered the fight? And that they all turned it down?

how could jenning have been offered the fight when hes fighting cotto next month?

emma wrote:how could jenning have been offered the fight when hes fighting cotto next month?

You offer him the fight, and then he says no. It is as easy as that.

Anyway, the other fighters on the list were all realistic options for a defence. Why did Brook end up fighting Elwell?

Horse wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Jesus Christ, give the f*cker a chance then. He's 22, FFS. He was supposed to fight at least two of your list and they both pulled out on him.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to imply Brook is somehow 'ducking' any of those from your list? Ye Gods.

That fight was a joke. That fight should have been a non-title fight, as Elwell is clearly not British title class.

Are you seriously saying that everyone that I listed was offered the fight? And that they all turned it down?

No, I'm not saying that at all. When did Brook become the first boxer who was duty bound to seek out the most difficult opponent for every defence? It's customary to have the occasional easier defence. Just because he sparked McIntyre in one, that doesn't count as one...many people had that a pick 'em fight (e.g. Boxing News went for Kevin).

Brook was supposed to fight the champ (McIntyre) but he was stripped so he ended up with a lower quality opponent on paper who was very durable (Barrie Jones). Then he wrecked the 'true' champ in one.

And go and do a bit of digging for yourself if you're so concerned. I'll bet you that almost all of your list wouldn't or couldn't have taken the fight.

If he KEEPS fighting opponents like Elwell, then I'll be with you all the way. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Horse wrote:

emma wrote:how could jenning have been offered the fight when hes fighting cotto next month?

You offer him the fight, and then he says no. It is as easy as that.

Anyway, the other fighters on the list were all realistic options for a defence. Why did Brook end up fighting Elwell?

I don't know. It was probably a voluntary defence, perhaps? Judging by how you've summed up the potential situation re Jennings, it's likely that you don't have too much of a grasp of how these things work.

'Er, Ricky, we know you're fighting Manny Pacquiao in May...but we'd like to offer you a British title fight with Paul McCloskey...what do you mean, no?'

As I've said, go and do a bit of digging for yourself. These fighters aren't unreachable. Go and ask them.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I don't know. It was probably a voluntary defence, perhaps?

A very poor voluntary defence.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Judging by how you've summed up the potential situation re Jennings, it's likely that you don't have too much of a grasp of how these things work.

'Er, Ricky, we know you're fighting Manny Pacquiao in May...but we'd like to offer you a British title fight with Paul McCloskey...what do you mean, no?'

What is the harm in asking? If you don't ask then you don't get.

Perhaps I don't care to grasp how these things work, if it involves promoters not asking fighters if they want a fight just because they might say no.

Brook should move down to LWW because he would be a massive threat in that division

brian13 wrote:Brook should move down to LWW because he would be a massive threat in that division

I'm surprised he can do 10 7 mate...he's a big lad. Just can't see him making 10st.

Horse wrote:Perhaps I don't care to grasp how these things work.

Then perhaps you should stop asking questions which directly relate to this - such as your earlier one, "Why did Brook end up fighting Elwell?"

When you ask a question like that, I presume you are asking how 'these things work'.

I'm getting f*cking sick of this forum.

And before you suggest it, yes, I am going to f*ck off...for now at least.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

brian13 wrote:Brook should move down to LWW because he would be a massive threat in that division

I'm surprised he can do 10 7 mate...he's a big lad. Just can't see him making 10st.

He looks small height wise

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Then perhaps you should stop asking questions which directly relate to this - such as your earlier one, "Why did Brook end up fighting Elwell?"

Perhaps I should.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:When you ask a question like that, I presume you are asking how 'these things work'.

What an assumption.


The Elwell fight was a joke and you are defending it. Fights like this put people off boxing, this fight should not have been made.

I believe the BBBofC also deserve a lot of the blame for allowing this fight, when they have rejected similar mismatches in the past.