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gobbles wrote:Contrast that with the statements from Taylor and another from Dawson. Sometimes you just have to keep your gob shut and show some respect for a fellow boxer, but Froch thought Calzaghe's retirement was all about Carl Froch

yep.

the man's arrogance needs taking down a peg or two.

love to see kessler come over to nottingham in the summer and box his ears off.

not sure taylor is the man to do it with his stamina issues.

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:from ITV4 the other week:

so Carl, how do you see Amir Khan's fight going with Marco Antonio Barrera?

"Well it's a like Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe isn't it. A prime Roy Jones would've destroyed a prime Calzaghe, wiped the floor with him".

Lol I did laugh at that one.

Carl tipped RJJ to beat Calzaghe the night before they fought. He's being wise after the event here

chinny wrote:

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:from ITV4 the other week:

so Carl, how do you see Amir Khan's fight going with Marco Antonio Barrera?

"Well it's a like Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe isn't it. A prime Roy Jones would've destroyed a prime Calzaghe, wiped the floor with him".

Lol I did laugh at that one.

Carl tipped RJJ to beat Calzaghe the night before they fought. He's being wise after the event here

He said if Roy has 50% of what he used to have he'd beat Calzaghe.

After the first round Roy's well was empty !

Asterix wrote:I knew what you meant, NorthEast.

Reporter: How's your Mum?
Carl Froch: Even my Mum could beat Joe Calzaghe.

D D D

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

gobbles wrote:Contrast that with the statements from Taylor and another from Dawson. Sometimes you just have to keep your gob shut and show some respect for a fellow boxer, but Froch thought Calzaghe's retirement was all about Carl Froch

yep.

the man's arrogance needs taking down a peg or two.

love to see kessler come over to nottingham in the summer and box his ears off.

not sure taylor is the man to do it with his stamina issues.

Taylor's looking more confident at 12st than 11st 6lbs, his jab alone would outbox Froch. This fight has probably been on and off because of Hennessey's big ego.

I can see Carl falling into the Junior Witter trap if he carries on like this, he needs to realise he doesn't need to fight Calzaghe to have a decent career as there's plenty of big fights at 168 now.

Eactly@ banjo

His one is much worse than Witter because at least with Junior they were around the same level for long enough for the fight to be viable. Froch has just potentially reached the same class as Joe, and even thats up for debate

Abbo wrote:I think Taylor can be very successful at SM. I was at the second Pavlik fight, and I actually scored by a round to Taylor. If he could have sustained his attacks he would have won comfortably.

I'm going to assume it was his weight issues that caused these limited attack spurts.

Personally I think at 168 he might be too prolific, accurate and classy for Froch.

Abbo, you're not exactly one for picking the right result are you, well, your brother's certainly not anyway, but i hope to god you are correct this time.

Froch the gobshite.

Nah,

Taylor was outgunned by welterweight Cory Spinks.. all 5'8 of him.

Froch is too strong, too determined and physical.

It'll be even until the halfway point..then Froch dictates.

It's a good matchup either way. We'll find out if Froch can cut it in America, or whether he's another Brit who looks good and then crumbles on the big stage. I know he's beaten Pascal now, but Pascal himself was untested. Taylor will really tell us how good Froch is. If Froch beats Taylor in a decent fashion a lot of doors should open for him.

If Froch can walk the walk then thats what he needs to do. Shut up about Calzaghe and stop the witty stuff about Taylor (missing persons list crap). All the talking doesnt get him fans, it turns many against him. Taylor has fought in better company than Froch and hes no ducker as Froch suggests he is. Naturally Taylor wants big money fights against names that mean something Stateside so its understandable he isnt exactly overwhelmed by fighting Froch who is hardly known outside his own country. The only thing Froch has in his favour is the WBC belt that may get him the fight. If it does happen Froch will be in the fight of his life, its a level he has never fought at before. If he wins he will become a name overnight, but if he loses it will be very tough to get back on top. Talking about smoking Taylors boots is both hype and rubbish. Taylor knows the business at World class while Froch is still learning about it. I think Taylor can hit a lot harder than Pascal and he certainly knows how to break down an opponents defense, pretty easy in the case of Froch he hasnt any. If Froch fights the same way as he did against Pascal, Taylor will be the first man to drop him.

it seems the fight will take place in America - I find it sad - ITV have not found the money to get this fight in the UK.

I still make Froch the favourite to win - but its going to be a lot harder especially if it goes to points!!!

the credit crunch is biting hard and I was scoffed at just because I stated it was effecting boxing!!!

Telegrapgh saying it will be 18 or 25th April.

Spud wrote:it seems the fight will take place in America - I find it sad - ITV have not found the money to get this fight in the UK.

I still make Froch the favourite to win - but its going to be a lot harder especially if it goes to points!!!

the credit crunch is biting hard and I was scoffed at just because I stated it was effecting boxing!!!

Telegrapgh saying it will be 18 or 25th April.

Taylor was never gonna come to the UK IMO

Chambers2 wrote:

Spud wrote:it seems the fight will take place in America - I find it sad - ITV have not found the money to get this fight in the UK.

I still make Froch the favourite to win - but its going to be a lot harder especially if it goes to points!!!

the credit crunch is biting hard and I was scoffed at just because I stated it was effecting boxing!!!

Telegrapgh saying it will be 18 or 25th April.

Taylor was never gonna come to the UK IMO

Agree - he had 'No Intention'...

Chambers2 wrote:

Spud wrote:it seems the fight will take place in America - I find it sad - ITV have not found the money to get this fight in the UK.

I still make Froch the favourite to win - but its going to be a lot harder especially if it goes to points!!!

the credit crunch is biting hard and I was scoffed at just because I stated it was effecting boxing!!!

Telegrapgh saying it will be 18 or 25th April.

Taylor was never gonna come to the UK IMO

Maybe not - but I find it sad because "Meaty Mick" looks after his boxers and I am certain he would have been doing everything possible to get a massive fight like Froch v Taylor to the UK - and unfortunately it is the sign of the times that when the huge fights are going to happen it will now always be PPV. Terrestrial TV are getting sunk without trace and I will say it again it is very sad. Boxing is needed on our terrestrial screens and more improtantly at prime time to encourage those who dont have a f*cking clue about the sport to watch it more.

I will stress I do not blame "Meaty Mick" one little bit for this - but the TV execs need to stop putting Grand Prix shit and tiddly winks and other b*llocks on - instead tell the dissenters to f*ck off and they also need to be told boxing is on - f*ck off to the BBC if you dont like it!!!

Thank f*ck we have Buncy & Setanta!!!

Grand Prix is on BBC anyway

banjo wrote:Grand Prix is on BBC anyway

Only because f*cking ITV are skint and wouldn't renew the contract!!!

Spud wrote:
Thank f*ck we have Buncy & Setanta!!!

I agree with Spud, Boxing benefits on terrestrial tv. It Increases the popularity of the sport.

Setanta repeat the late night shows better than Sky and ITV thankfully too as I hate late nights.

The promoters constant tv jumping and the bad coverage already has put me off boxing a little bit.

Max Molyneux wrote:I agree with Spud, Boxing benefits on terrestrial tv. It Increases the popularity of the sport.

Setanta repeat the late night shows better than Sky and ITV thankfully too as I hate late nights.

The promoters constant tv jumping and the bad coverage already has put me off boxing a little bit.

Problem is athletes like Taylor are conditioned to expect TV and promoters to break the bank every time they fight. Considering the calibre of fight, the uninspiring performances v smaller men, he was getting too much for Spinks and Ouma.

American television have been tougher on him - HBO wanted Wright or Kessler (but sadly not Froch) - and Showtime wanted Froch or Glen Johnson but relented, gave into him and almost let him fight Allan Green.

If ppl are gonna support greedy Khan then I'd rather support Froch getting a proper world title fight on PPV. I'd rather see Froch in one real fight that Cook, Khan and Macca in the latest episode.

With Froch having a world title, terrestrial TV can make him popular. However, promoters are reliant on TV money, and ITV can't help egt opponents like Taylor. Also, the German promoters are always getting their fighters ranked, they are crafty buggers and I reckon Froch would be off to Germany for some of his mandatory defences. This would also raise problems surely, i.e. would they send their cameras over to Germany when they wouldn't even go to Jersey for the Hobson show?

I think Froch is better off on Sky. If ITV can't get a Taylor who isn't at a great point in his career, move on.

Max Molyneux wrote:Taylor's looking more confident at 12st than 11st 6lbs, his jab alone would outbox Froch. This fight has probably been on and off because of Hennessey's big ego.

no way would warren have let froch box taylor in america.

it would have been a case of england or nothing.

or a purse bids.

no way would warren have negotiated an away from home fight with a big name fighter of his.

jennings is not a big name fighter.

hence the reason he's going overseas to box cotto.

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:Taylor's looking more confident at 12st than 11st 6lbs, his jab alone would outbox Froch. This fight has probably been on and off because of Hennessey's big ego.

no way would warren have let froch box taylor in america.

it would have been a case of england or nothing.

or a purse bids.

no way would warren have negotiated an away from home fight with a big name fighter of his.

jennings is not a big name fighter.

hence the reason he's going overseas to box cotto.

I don't think Hennessy's ego is the problem, I think he will go to the US because there are just no other big fights out there. Froch has had a pretty slow 2 years one way and another and needs to capitalise on his title win quickly. The WBC did him a favour by making Taylor mandatory, otherwise it could have quickly ended up going down the Witter route with that hopeless Mexican he fought first defence.

gobbles wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:Taylor's looking more confident at 12st than 11st 6lbs, his jab alone would outbox Froch. This fight has probably been on and off because of Hennessey's big ego.

no way would warren have let froch box taylor in america.

it would have been a case of england or nothing.

or a purse bids.

no way would warren have negotiated an away from home fight with a big name fighter of his.

jennings is not a big name fighter.

hence the reason he's going overseas to box cotto.

I don't think Hennessy's ego is the problem, I think he will go to the US because there are just no other big fights out there. Froch has had a pretty slow 2 years one way and another and needs to capitalise on his title win quickly. The WBC did him a favour by making Taylor mandatory, otherwise it could have quickly ended up going down the Witter route with that hopeless Mexican he fought first defence.

Even so Froch has got to be commended for making the Taylor fight happen when he could have let the process go to purse bids (and watched Lou and Taylor pullout) and gone on to fight Mads Larssen or whoever at home in an easier fight, but he hasn't and has gone searching after the best possible fights and if he beats JT I've got no doubt that they'll be trying to Kessler and Bute in the ring asap


Froch deserved a soft defence for his first one IMO, nobody would have complained after the Pascal war, other boxers have been excused by the boxrec masses for worse

If Froch goes to the US and beats Taylor, all the boxing politics talk go out the window.

What we'll have is an outstanding British world champion who won the best version of the world title in a classic against a worthy opponent and then, in his 1st defence, ventures to America to beat his mandatory challenger who also happens to be a huge name.

I wish Frochy the best of British, and when Carl retires from the game you won't have too many boxing fans saying he avoided boxer XYZ etc, like Calzaghe did. Joe has just retired and there seem to be negative comments than positive. Froch looks like he wants to avoid this happening and beating Taylor in the US is an excellent way of going about it.

As always, I'll believe this fight happens when I see Froch and Taylor in an American ring, but should this match materialise, answer me this :


How does a 1st defence in America against Jermain Taylor compare with Branco Sobot :?? :??

Chambers2 wrote:Even so Froch has got to be commended for making the Taylor fight happen when he could have let the process go to purse bids (and watched Lou and Taylor pullout) and gone on to fight Mads Larssen or whoever at home in an easier fight, but he hasn't and has gone searching after the best possible fights and if he beats JT I've got no doubt that they'll be trying to Kessler and Bute in the ring asap


Froch deserved a soft defence for his first one IMO, nobody would have complained after the Pascal war, other boxers have been excused by the boxrec masses for worse

exactly.

no way would warren have worked it out.

all he would be interested in is putting on the promotion at home whether it was against taylor or someone else.

respect to froch for going abroad for this.

still like to see kessler take his arrogance down a peg or two in the summer though.