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Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 16:45
by Asterix
chrisfinch wrote:Thanks dude. I was convinced I'd put Light in front of the Welterweight but obviously not.
Hoping the main event is a lot better than the recent Heavyweight title fights I've seen.
It can't be any worse than the featherweights on Boxe.de right now.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 16:49
by MightyWarrior
Missed the early stuff, is Chagaev defending his title? Very good of the WBA if he is, allowing the Germans to dig up an obscure Costa Rican and serve him up on a plate for Chaggers.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 16:55
by Asterix
MightyWarrior wrote:Missed the early stuff, is Chagaev defending his title? Very good of the WBA if he is, allowing the Germans to dig up an obscure Costa Rican and serve him up on a plate for Chaggers.
On Boxrec and Fight-News both say the title is on the line. It's a title split into two at the moment though.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:11
by REAL_DEAL
They just showed his opponent on the pads and he looks bad. I am going to put some money on a stoppage win.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:17
by Asterix
Here we go. Drummond walking to the ring.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:23
by chrisfinch
I'm sure theres an obvious answer to this that I'm not aware of...
But why the hell are there two WBA World Heavyweight Champions?
Why has there not yet been a matchup between Chagaev and Valuev for sole possession of the WBA belt?
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:24
by REAL_DEAL
Cause the WBA like to have 6 champions per divison.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:24
by Datsue
chrisfinch wrote:I'm sure theres an obvious answer to this that I'm not aware of...
But why the hell are there two WBA World Heavyweight Champions?
Why has there not yet been a matchup between Chagaev and Valuev for sole possession of the WBA belt?
Chagaev contracted every single disease known to man -- & a few that aren't -- so the WBArseholes gave Valuev back the belt. Well, half the belt... But somehow Ruslan can still defend his half.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:25
by Datsue
REAL_DEAL wrote:Cause the WBA like to have 6 champions per divison.
Yeah, what he said!
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:25
by Asterix
chrisfinch wrote:I'm sure theres an obvious answer to this that I'm not aware of...
But why the hell are there two WBA World Heavyweight Champions?
Why has there not yet been a matchup between Chagaev and Valuev for sole possession of the WBA belt?
Chagaev was the champion, but he had injury problems so was unable to face Valuev. The WBA decided to make Chagaev the "champion in recess" and promote Valuev to the champion. Now Chagaev is back, there are 2 titles. Provided he wins tonight, Chagaev will be fighting Valuev next and then we'll have one title.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:28
by chrisfinch
Thanks for that asterix, its funny, the commentator just explained it pretty much spot on as well.
The only thing that gets me is that why didn't Valuev win an "interim" world title when Chagaev was out injured. Crazy.
But as you and the commentator said, the winner of this fight should unify with Valuev later in the year.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:30
by MightyWarrior
Drummond has clearly been watching Larry Holmes tapes...think that illusion is about to be shattered.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:31
by Asterix
chrisfinch wrote:Thanks for that asterix, its funny, the commentator just explained it pretty much spot on as well.
The only thing that gets me is that why didn't Valuev win an "interim" world title when Chagaev was out injured. Crazy.
But as you and the commentator said, the winner of this fight should unify with Valuev later in the year.
Money. An Interim title is worth less money than the full one.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:31
by stujones
Asterix wrote:chrisfinch wrote:I'm sure theres an obvious answer to this that I'm not aware of...
But why the hell are there two WBA World Heavyweight Champions?
Why has there not yet been a matchup between Chagaev and Valuev for sole possession of the WBA belt?
Chagaev was the champion, but he had injury problems so was unable to face Valuev. The WBA decided to make Chagaev the "champion in recess" and promote Valuev to the champion. Now Chagaev is back, there are 2 titles. Provided he wins tonight, Chagaev will be fighting Valuev next and then we'll have one title.
Pending something from Holyfield?
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:35
by Asterix
stujones wrote:Asterix wrote:chrisfinch wrote:I'm sure theres an obvious answer to this that I'm not aware of...
But why the hell are there two WBA World Heavyweight Champions?
Why has there not yet been a matchup between Chagaev and Valuev for sole possession of the WBA belt?
Chagaev was the champion, but he had injury problems so was unable to face Valuev. The WBA decided to make Chagaev the "champion in recess" and promote Valuev to the champion. Now Chagaev is back, there are 2 titles. Provided he wins tonight, Chagaev will be fighting Valuev next and then we'll have one title.
Pending something from Holyfield?
Not sure where that stands.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:36
by REAL_DEAL
He hurt Chagaev in the 3rd. Good shot, if he lands a few more of them Chagaev would be in trouble.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:39
by Asterix
Chagaev cut. Accidental headbutt.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:39
by jayc
drummond is pretty decent - he needs to go for it
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:40
by Asterix
It's a real bleeder.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:42
by REAL_DEAL
they will finish the 4th and go to the cards.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:43
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Missed the Kotelnik fight was it a fair decision?
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:45
by Asterix
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Missed the Kotelnik fight was it a fair decision?
Maidana deserved the decision more, imo, but it wasn't a terrible decision. Kotelnik showed better ring generalship and greater accuracy. Kotelnik was bashed up by the end of it, though. Maidana landed with much greater power and had a much better work rate.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:47
by J
anyone got a link for the arce fight at all, pm me if you have please, dont get showtime out here, just hbo
thanks everso much in advance
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:48
by jayc
drummond is waiting too long - he needs to throw more shots earlier - i have chagaev picking him off here.
Re: Chagaev-Drummond & Kotelnik-Maidana on TV?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:53
by Asterix
You'd think the referee would know the right procedure. Asking for the fight to go to scorecards then being told he needs to get the doctor's opinion on the cut.
