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I totally agree with your comments about Spidatrap, what a turncoat




right back at you buddy, are you sure you've spelt your name correctly...Quixall...I think you meant Quisling

spidatrap wrote:I totally agree with your comments about Spidatrap, what a turncoat




right back at you buddy, are you sure you've spelt your name correctly...Quixall...I think you meant Quisling

I'll have to send the heavies round "Spidatrap"

prescott won by disqualifaction in the 10th last night

sweetscience wrote:prescott won by disqualifaction in the 10th last night

From the sounds of it, Prescott had in him trouble in a few occasions - including a KD in the 7th. Toledo mainly tried to survive and cheat (holding and hitting) long before the bite. Prescott was well on top... although his footwork needs to improve (just from reading various sites/forums).

PRescott is taller, stronger, and tougher. Khan can't fight a guy who's taller, he is used to having the better reach, and has no defense at all, Prescott is a genuine puncher, and Khan can't keep his chin away for 12 rounds. In a rematch, Khan could last a bit longer but that's about it.

I can't see Warren making that mistake again.

Allegedly.

didipuff wrote:In the aftermath of Breidis-Khan on PPV I remember Glenn McCrory being asked "Where does Khan go from here?"
To this he said "Never get in the ring with that guy again- thats for sure"

Just wondering weather people agree or disagree with this.

Personally I think that the only way to finally get rid of the demons of BP is to get back in the ring with him at some point. Until this happens, even with Khan victories over Barrera etc. people will still point to the BP example of Khans lack of credability as a world class fighter. Having said this a second defeat to BP would surely be massively career damaging.

What does everyone think?
Do you think Khan would even win a rematch or would the eventual outcome be the same?
Do you think this fight would ever feasibly happen again?

They should definitely fight again, as Khan needs to erase the memory of Prescott.

The problem is, I don't know whether Khan can adjust enough to avoid being sparked again & I certainly believe that F rank Warren won't have Khan within 775 yards of Prescott again in Amir's entire life.

i think khan will eventually have a rematch with prescott.

going by the whole kindelan fiasco when amir was a amateur, amir seems to have the attitude to try to avenge a loss, and i think he'll get in the ring with prescott even if advised not to. that seems to be his character to be honest with you.

Someone said that Khan surely would not feel like a world champion (if he wins a belt) unless he erases this defeat. Two schools of thought - a lot of guys in history, hundreds, have lost fights on the way to the title (more have a defeat on their ledger than dont when they have won a title) and have never erased the defeats. Take a recent legend. B Hop. Two defeats, never revenged on his ledger from before he was World Champion. Anyone think he cannot really call himself a world champion? Sometimes you lose and it is a learning experience and you do not need to erase the defeat because when you win the title, you are clearly not the same guy who lost x time earlier. You lost whilst learning, it happens, you have moved on.

On the other hand, I think of Joe Louis. I read that he said he would not feel like the world champion until he had levelled the score with Max. I understand that, to feel like the best fighter in the world you must know you can beat everyone out there. If there is a guy who has beaten you and you have not squared it then there must be a little niggle of doubt on your inner mind.

I think the reality and whether they can feel like a champion falls somewhere in the middle

tobyh5 wrote:Someone said that Khan surely would not feel like a world champion (if he wins a belt) unless he erases this defeat. Two schools of thought - a lot of guys in history, hundreds, have lost fights on the way to the title (more have a defeat on their ledger than dont when they have won a title) and have never erased the defeats. Take a recent legend. B Hop. Two defeats, never revenged on his ledger from before he was World Champion. Anyone think he cannot really call himself a world champion? Sometimes you lose and it is a learning experience and you do not need to erase the defeat because when you win the title, you are clearly not the same guy who lost x time earlier. You lost whilst learning, it happens, you have moved on.

On the other hand, I think of Joe Louis. I read that he said he would not feel like the world champion until he had levelled the score with Max. I understand that, to feel like the best fighter in the world you must know you can beat everyone out there. If there is a guy who has beaten you and you have not squared it then there must be a little niggle of doubt on your inner mind.

I think the reality and whether they can feel like a champion falls somewhere in the middle

i suppose it depends on the characters of fighters, when david lost to carl i thought david would have a rematch to avenge the loss as he seemed the type to do that, but at the end of the day david climbed the world rankings to quick with brilliant knockout wins, and the thompson fight just did'nt happen. that can happen with khan, he could just climb up the ladder too quick especially if he gets the wins against the likes of barerra. if he beats barerra and the prescott fight, then it'll have to happen very soon after, like the fight after the barrera one because khan will get the big fights, too big to refuse really, and that's when the rematch won't happen, not unless prescott climbs up the world rankings in his own right.

tobyh5 wrote:Someone said that Khan surely would not feel like a world champion (if he wins a belt) unless he erases this defeat. Two schools of thought - a lot of guys in history, hundreds, have lost fights on the way to the title (more have a defeat on their ledger than dont when they have won a title) and have never erased the defeats. Take a recent legend. B Hop. Two defeats, never revenged on his ledger from before he was World Champion. Anyone think he cannot really call himself a world champion? Sometimes you lose and it is a learning experience and you do not need to erase the defeat because when you win the title, you are clearly not the same guy who lost x time earlier. You lost whilst learning, it happens, you have moved on.

On the other hand, I think of Joe Louis. I read that he said he would not feel like the world champion until he had levelled the score with Max. I understand that, to feel like the best fighter in the world you must know you can beat everyone out there. If there is a guy who has beaten you and you have not squared it then there must be a little niggle of doubt on your inner mind.

I think the reality and whether they can feel like a champion falls somewhere in the middle

I think it depends when you lose. Louis lost to Schmeling only two fights before he won the world title, so he needed to revenge it, while B Hop lost his first fight and lost to Roy Jones Jr two years before winning a title, so it was further in the past. I think if Khan wins a world title this year, he should revenge his loss, but if it takes him 3 or 4 years to do it it will be forgotten or dismissed as 'a learning experience'.

sg1985 wrote:

hitman09 wrote:

tobyh5 wrote:Someone said that Khan surely would not feel like a world champion (if he wins a belt) unless he erases this defeat. Two schools of thought - a lot of guys in history, hundreds, have lost fights on the way to the title (more have a defeat on their ledger than dont when they have won a title) and have never erased the defeats. Take a recent legend. B Hop. Two defeats, never revenged on his ledger from before he was World Champion. Anyone think he cannot really call himself a world champion? Sometimes you lose and it is a learning experience and you do not need to erase the defeat because when you win the title, you are clearly not the same guy who lost x time earlier. You lost whilst learning, it happens, you have moved on.

On the other hand, I think of Joe Louis. I read that he said he would not feel like the world champion until he had levelled the score with Max. I understand that, to feel like the best fighter in the world you must know you can beat everyone out there. If there is a guy who has beaten you and you have not squared it then there must be a little niggle of doubt on your inner mind.

I think the reality and whether they can feel like a champion falls somewhere in the middle

I think it depends when you lose. Louis lost to Schmeling only two fights before he won the world title, so he needed to revenge it, while B Hop lost his first fight and lost to Roy Jones Jr two years before winning a title, so it was further in the past. I think if Khan wins a world title this year, he should revenge his loss, but if it takes him 3 or 4 years to do it it will be forgotten or dismissed as 'a learning experience'.

also b-hop was trying to avenge the loss to rjj for years

And we all know what'd happen if they fought now

If Khan wants a shot at a genuine World Title, he shouldn't be aloud near Prescott. Or any other world class punchers for that matter.

He hasn't got the chin and he never will have.

He's fast and very talented, but unless his defence improves to the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr, he's always going to be very vunerable around the whiskers.

I dont think so Prescott will throw huge wild punches and in 12 rounds 1 is bound 2 hit and i feel khan wont b able to take it

Avenging a knockout defeat is probably the hardest feat to achieve in boxing. I would like Khan to pursue a rematch but his management team wont risk their cash cow getting smoked again (unless its for big money). Khan is probably more talented then Prescott in virtually every area but the fact remains that Khan cant take a punch and Prescott has big time power, so the fight would always be a really dangerous one.