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Spud wrote:

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:I figured David could fulfill his AEG contract there, too, if it's still in force? Especially if GBP co-promote.

Or maybe a football stadium.

Emerz,

I seriously did not even contemplate your reaction to this!!!

Yeah okay if you arguing from a boxing perspective then yes you can argue Haye is chasing the dream and as such it would fantastic if he were to capture the Heavyweight Championship Of The World.

However from the fans perspective in my view its all wrong - Haye in my view is forgetting his fans at a time he was just starting to build a fan base - but even that wasn't the heights others and in fact many others achieved earlier in their careers!!!

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:

chrisfinch wrote:So if it was in Germany, where abouts would it likely to be?

And would it easily accessible for British fans? I'd be interested in going if it was in Germany but it could be really awkward to get to

Guaranteed the O2 Arena in Berlin. They have a lot of boxing there.

Terence wrote:

Spud wrote:

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:I figured David could fulfill his AEG contract there, too, if it's still in force? Especially if GBP co-promote.

Or maybe a football stadium.

Emerz,

I seriously did not even contemplate your reaction to this!!!

Yeah okay if you arguing from a boxing perspective then yes you can argue Haye is chasing the dream and as such it would fantastic if he were to capture the Heavyweight Championship Of The World.

However from the fans perspective in my view its all wrong - Haye in my view is forgetting his fans at a time he was just starting to build a fan base - but even that wasn't the heights others and in fact many others achieved earlier in their careers!!!

Wherever Wlad feels comfortable fighting Haye, that is where Haye should go. Let Wlad have it all his own way. Let him come out to one of those Fourth Reich ring walks. Let him burn energy protecting his chin in the early rounds. Then lay him out, and Haye will, the only thing Haye should be saying in negotiations is, "What part of the ring do you want to crash onto, Wlad?"

Haye will knock Wlad out. Then he will be the man at heavyweight, then he can fight here, and the fans can watch him fight as the heavyweight champion, possibly against VK (who will drop his belts, and mandatories, quicker than Bet Lynch's knickers in order to secure a fight), they may enjoy that.

Then Haye can bugger off to America and batter the living daylights out of their mob. People will moan that he is deserting us fans, but, as a fan, I will be happy to see him do all that.

It never did Lewis any harm.

Datsue wrote:Fvck me I have never heard anyone bitching & moaning about a bloke willing to travel to a champion's home country before!

That's a new one on me.

Was Michael Jennings not thinking of the fans, Spud, by agreeing to fight Cotto at Madison Square Garden? Should he have demanded the fight be held in a leisure centre somewhere up north, for the fans?

Terence wrote:That was back in the day when we were starved of success in general, and heavyweight success in particular. Wlad-Haye would be great in Germany. Those who are desperate to go can nip over there, I would love another trip to Germany. This fight will build Haye even further, if people in the UK have been sleeping on him up to this point then it is their own tough luck! When he is world champ he will suddenly have fans all over the show, all of whom will be eager to get over to Vegas and gurn their way onto the TV screens.

You want Haye to jeopardise this fight so a bunch of Johnny come Lately fans can jump on the bandwagon, that is just daft. It will sell bigger numbers in Germany, and those who make the trip over there can actually visit a country with clean streets, a service industry worth its salt and nice people. Alternatively the fight could be staged in London, we could get hosed for the tickets, the transport system will grind to a halt and the TV networks could push the fight time back to accommodate the US.

I say leave it in the hands of the Germans, they can put on a show.

Terence wrote: I will be going, so will Mrs T Diddly. What more do they want

Spud wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:http://www.britishboxing.net/news_4366- ... rmany.html

Ah, who knows. But the info is quite strong...

Interesting - you are not the first to say what you have in the article.

I will be dissapointed if it is in Germany - in fact I think it will be f*cking stupid - Haye is looking after his own needs - and whilst some will say he has a right to - Haye early in his career in my opinion did not work on his fan base which is why he couldn't sell out a phone box - I know for a fact - his last fight whilst it was great to see the people that came to the O2 - it was nonetheless a very hard sell!!!

Haye should do what Froch has done - build on his popularity and then f*ck off to another country - in my opinion Haye has absolutely no connection with the fans and in fact spends the majority of his time in North Cyprus where he is keen to please the local population - what about the fans in the UK??

I for one will be furious if Team Haye has agreed to a 3 fight option with K2 Promotions to fight the Klitschko's - I hope that is not the case and Haye bothers about his fans in the UK.

Datsue wrote:Yep.

Went with the Missus to see him flatten Mormeck in Gay Paree & would gladly go to see him butcher Wlad in erm, Straight & Efficient Berlin.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: I was at that fight in Paris too - middle of nowhere that Arena was - quite a moody and villanous looking algerian contingent in the crowd.

Berlin or bust, that's what I say.

Would they not stage it at the Max Schmelling Halle though, I seem to remember that is the biggie for boxing in Berlin?

Datsue wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: I was at that fight in Paris too - middle of nowhere that Arena was - quite a moody and villanous looking algerian contingent in the crowd.

Berlin or bust, that's what I say.

Would they not stage it at the Max Schmelling Halle though, I seem to remember that is the biggie for boxing in Berlin?

I don't know about the Max Schmeling place, I've never been to Germany. Looking forward to it.

For the Haye fight we stayed in the world's cheapest hotel right under an underpass about two miles away from the arena in Levallois. T'was brilliant, the whores in the bar had some great stories & the porn was free & 24/7. We walked to & from the arena along one of the big dual carriageway affairs, guided by my missus' schoolgirl French & the occasional fight poster flapping in the breeze.

The crowd at the fight was a bit serious though. Where we were sitting some of the French dudes looked quite scary -- we made friends with the reporter from the local rag (can't remember the name of the paper!) & he was cheerily pointing at people going " 'E is a baad man. Look, 'im. Tres bad motherfvckairr..."

Top weekend that was.