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Wrists wrote:DG your talking shite as usual.

get your head out of your arse and just give some credit where it is due

Who are you?

Its commonsense!

Listen, if someone can not cpmpete at a decent level 1 weight division up, imo he s not p4p eff all!

Agree?

Max Molyneux wrote:

DG. wrote:Hatton weighs moire on the night than a lot of Natural Welters do on fight night.

P4P my arse.

Aye, he's too big for Manny Pac and will destroy Manny.

Hope Hatton does it. D

Marquez will always be Manny's master though JMM was horribly robbed twice.

Pacquiao has been doing a Hatton picking the guys at the right time and big draws get gifts and they probably don't want to upset the phillipines if he loses as they love him there politically and hero wise. First fresh guy like Marquez and his limitations are exposed.

Wrists wrote:People on here get on my tits - loads of tossers wiae after the event.

If Hatton beats Pacquaio then its a bloody good win and he would have Pacquiao and Tsyzu on his resume, thats good enough for me.

Too many people on here are just content to slag everyone off.

Calzaghe - ooh he is a pussy cos he won't fight Froch and Dawson, the Kessler fight was close (was it bollocks)
Khan - ooh he is an arrogant twat, how?? MAB will smash him (cue backtracking and MAB was washed up if Khan wins)

And the latest one that DeGale is arrogant!! - those who boo'd him at the weekend should be ashamed.

Sometimes its hard to be British listening to some of the tosspots on here.

You are a rude boy..calm down!

He will not e P4P eff all!

He can not even compete at 147 with mediocre fighters but you think beating a likkle ex bantam means he is P4P number 1?


Laughable.

Joke argument - Pacquaio is a great fighter, great fight and if Hatton wins he deserves all the credit in the world.

You and Max talk absolute bollocks

Tried to think of a better, more educated way to say that but why spoil the truth when it can be put in a blunt way.

Your posts linked to Amy Whinehouse lyrics are painful and you are thought of as pretty much of a joke on here.

Max - used to think you posted a lot of sense but now beginning to think that unless its Calzaghe you don't want to know

Shame

PS. DG I bet you boo'd DeGale???

Wrists wrote:Joke argument - Pacquaio is a great fighter, great fight and if Hatton wins he deserves all the credit in the world.

You and Max talk absolute bollocks

Tried to think of a better, more educated way to say that but why spoil the truth when it can be put in a blunt way.

Your posts linked to Amy Whinehouse lyrics are painful and you are thought of as pretty much of a joke on here.

Max - used to think you posted a lot of sense but now beginning to think that unless its Calzaghe you don't want to know

Shame

PS. DG I bet you boo'd DeGale???

Wrists - its a forum and a place to discuss boxing and also have a laugh.

One day when you make even a mini success of yourself you will understand.



Now - piss off and make you 1 post every 4 days.

DG a joke?- Me say no no no!

Where's Mayweather jr? Sooner Floyd comes back the sooner all this P4P debate is put to bed!

If Hatton does beat Pacquiao it will be interesting to see if we are treated to Hatton-Marquez? JMM is in the form of his career at 35. His performance against Diaz was a brilliant one. That fight is a worthy candidate for FOTY!

So because I don't post every day that's bad thing is it??

You talk utter twaddle and you know it - your arguments have no sound knowledge and you just slag Hatton off who has done more for this country than you ever will do

Fool

Wrists wrote:So because I don't post every day that's bad thing is it??

You talk utter twaddle and you know it - your arguments have no sound knowledge and you just slag Hatton off who has done more for this country than you ever will do

Fool

Its a great thing - try posting every 14 days!

More for this country? And how would you know?



Listen to the Man dem,

Wrists wrote:So because I don't post every day that's bad thing is it??

You talk utter twaddle and you know it - your arguments have no sound knowledge and you just slag Hatton off who has done more for this country than you ever will do

Fool

THis is pretty sound.

Hatton can not compete at even middle level 1 weight above.

Getting mashed by PBF and beating Lazcano and Maliganaggi and a former bantam ( if he beats Pacman) who has never fought a live opponent above lightweight and never fought at 140 does not a P4P no1 make!

JMM has better credentials!

Barrera
Pacman ( JMM won both in my book and many books!)
KO Casamayor ( 2 weights up from his best weight)
KO Diaz ( 2 Weights up from his best weight)

It's better than Hattons resume!


Mr T would like to say something..

Wrists wrote:Joke argument - Pacquaio is a great fighter, great fight and if Hatton wins he deserves all the credit in the world.

You and Max talk absolute bollocks

Tried to think of a better, more educated way to say that but why spoil the truth when it can be put in a blunt way.

Your posts linked to Amy Whinehouse lyrics are painful and you are thought of as pretty much of a joke on here.

Max - used to think you posted a lot of sense but now beginning to think that unless its Calzaghe you don't want to know

Shame

PS. DG I bet you boo'd DeGale???

Even your arguments are limp, like your 'wrists'.

Finch wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:Irrespective of weight, if Hatton beats the current number 1 and 2 and in doing so beats the pound for pound number 1 in consecutive fights I don’t think you can really argue anyone else should be above him but that’s a pretty big if.

If he beats Marquez after Manny then i will chop my balls off.

I'll remember that one

DG. wrote:

Wrists wrote:People on here get on my tits - loads of tossers wiae after the event.

If Hatton beats Pacquaio then its a bloody good win and he would have Pacquiao and Tsyzu on his resume, thats good enough for me.

Too many people on here are just content to slag everyone off.

Calzaghe - ooh he is a pussy cos he won't fight Froch and Dawson, the Kessler fight was close (was it bollocks)
Khan - ooh he is an arrogant twat, how?? MAB will smash him (cue backtracking and MAB was washed up if Khan wins)

And the latest one that DeGale is arrogant!! - those who boo'd him at the weekend should be ashamed.

Sometimes its hard to be British listening to some of the tosspots on here.

You are a rude boy..calm down!

He will not e P4P eff all!

He can not even compete at 147 with mediocre fighters but you think beating a likkle ex bantam means he is P4P number 1?


Laughable.

Cannot compete with mediocre . . . won a title and lost over a more competative fight than most to PBF. How do you figure he cannot compete with the mediocre talents at 147. Simply put he is better at 140, why does that offend you so much?

DG. wrote:

Wrists wrote:DG your talking shite as usual.

get your head out of your arse and just give some credit where it is due

Who are you?

Its commonsense!

Listen, if someone can not cpmpete at a decent level 1 weight division up, imo he s not p4p eff all!

Agree?

No.

I do think Hatton's relative lack of success a mere half-stone up is strange, but I don't begrudge him pound-for-pound consideration for mostly staying in one division. Frequent weight-hopping is a fairly recent phemonenon in boxing. Yes, there have been exceptions through history but typically boxers have stayed in one or two divisions, especially in their prime years. Who you fight, and for long you are successful, are more important than at how many weights you do it at, IMO. If Hatton beats Pacquaio, then he's P4P #2 at worst, and you could argue #1 based on the Marquez-Pacquiao results (opinions differ but only results count).

I'm starting to really hate the phase "pound for pound"

bugs wrote:

DG. wrote:

Wrists wrote:People on here get on my tits - loads of tossers wiae after the event.

If Hatton beats Pacquaio then its a bloody good win and he would have Pacquiao and Tsyzu on his resume, thats good enough for me.

Too many people on here are just content to slag everyone off.

Calzaghe - ooh he is a pussy cos he won't fight Froch and Dawson, the Kessler fight was close (was it bollocks)
Khan - ooh he is an arrogant twat, how?? MAB will smash him (cue backtracking and MAB was washed up if Khan wins)

And the latest one that DeGale is arrogant!! - those who boo'd him at the weekend should be ashamed.

Sometimes its hard to be British listening to some of the tosspots on here.

You are a rude boy..calm down!

He will not e P4P eff all!

He can not even compete at 147 with mediocre fighters but you think beating a likkle ex bantam means he is P4P number 1?


Laughable.

Cannot compete with mediocre . . . won a title and lost over a more competative fight than most to PBF. How do you figure he cannot compete with the mediocre talents at 147. Simply put he is better at 140, why does that offend you so much?

More competitive against PBF than most? Did you see the fight? Hatton landed next to NOTHING against PBF. Corley and others did MUCH better!

Put Hatton n with a top 10-15 fogjhter at 147 and see how he will struggle.

Collazo may have won a vacnt belt but he was not top 10 imo.

It does nt offend me, where did I say it did? Hatton seems to fight and awful lot of smaller guys.. P4P Number 1 if he beats Manny? As someone said 'Diaz would not have been if he beat Manny!'

My opinion and why does that offend YOU so much?

It seems as if Ricky is a tad mistaken by this p4p malarky.

If you beat the so called p4p number 1, it doesn't automatically make you number 1 yourself.

Anywho, whats it matter? It's a mythical title that is never 100% agreed upon.
Much rather talk about the fact that if Hatton beats Pacman, it only raises his stock. Would be a great W on his already top notch record.

Terence wrote:

DG. wrote:
Pacman ( JMM won both in my book and many books!)
KO Casamayor ( 2 weights up from his best weight)
KO Diaz ( 2 Weights up from his best weight)

DG's book =



Raw and uncut. Also behind bars, where he belongs!

Can someone called the care in the community Nurse and get Terence dealt with?

Diddly.....get back in your corner!

yiddo14 wrote:It seems as if Ricky is a tad mistaken by this p4p malarky.

If you beat the so called p4p number 1, it doesn't automatically make you number 1 yourself.

Anywho, whats it matter? It's a mythical title that is never 100% agreed upon.
Much rather talk about the fact that if Hatton beats Pacman, it only raises his stock. Would be a great W on his already top notch record.

I think the main thing is...Its another con of the ignorant..

Almost like when he said the WBU was a World Title..

The pissed up fans think it is the way he says it is but the REAL fans know its PR nonsense.

I expect Hatton to beat Manny and pretty eaily.

Hatton is too big for him.

my take on the situation is that, whilst beating pacman would be a great accomplishment, hes shown hes not prepared ( or able ) to do what pacquiao and marquez themselves have shown a willingness to do: rise through the divisions, not for the sake of it, but to chase the big fights. what was he going to do if manny didnt move up and beat odlh? go for the big fights at welter, or stayed and faced the uninspiring crop of challengers at 140?

even if he beat pacman, you could argue pac was still higher than hatton p4p, because i cant see any scenario where hatton wins without using his big advantages in size and strength, advantages afforded him by taking on the smaller challenger.

and whilst i agree that hatton shouldnt be lambasted for fighting in a divsion hes simply not effective in, at the end of the day it is his ability that prevents him doing so, its his own style that limits him. great light welter, but pacquiao and marquez are currently showing us what great p4p fighters can do

mike john wrote:and whilst i agree that hatton shouldnt be lambasted for fighting in a divsion hes simply not effective in, at the end of the day it is his ability that prevents him doing so, its his own style that limits him. great light welter, but pacquiao and marquez are currently showing us what great p4p fighters can do

I do agree it's a styles/abilities issue. 7lb is really not that much of a difference. Hatton just struggled again one, and lost to another, at WW because of the styles rather than the sizes. Certainly PBF should not be put down to Hatton fighting in the "wrong" division, since PBF started out two divisions lower than Hatton.

DG. wrote:

Terence wrote:

DG. wrote:
Pacman ( JMM won both in my book and many books!)
KO Casamayor ( 2 weights up from his best weight)
KO Diaz ( 2 Weights up from his best weight)

DG's book =



Raw and uncut. Also behind bars, where he belongs!

Can someone called the care in the community Nurse and get Terence dealt with?

Diddly.....get back in your corner!

I always had you down as a fan of black fisting, now you've confirmed it.

I don't think Hatton will be p4p with a victory over Pac but that's nothing to do with staying in one weight class, merely the lack of top fighters on his resume. If he was to take on and beat JMM after Pac then I think the argument could be made.

I think the fact that most people have him p4p to ten already is what creates the argument if he is to beat Pacman. Not number 1 for me but he surely has to move closer to it.

the p4p argument falls down in cases like this. it reminds me of when roy jones beat ruiz at heavy. p4p he was clear number 1, but lennox was clearly number 1 at heavyweight

jtourettes wrote:
I always had you down as a fan of black fisting, now you've confirmed it.

Sick bastard!

Welcome , J Toilets!

DG. wrote:

Wrists wrote:DG your talking shite as usual.

get your head out of your arse and just give some credit where it is due

Who are you?

Its commonsense!

Listen, if someone can not cpmpete at a decent level 1 weight division up, imo he s not p4p eff all!

Agree?

well he did and won the title TWO weight champ....and he competed against floyd til the 8th and with th ref hardly doing him any favours (not saying it would have changed the result but it certainly would have meant hatton was more competetive if Cortez hadnt been as big a knob as you are being, are you related cos your both wankers as far as hatton is concerned)!!!!

Also tell me this what looks worse, losing to a gaurenteed HOF in PBF or losing to Chris John?

Answer that Dirk Giggler?

again on this subject DG you behave like a 13 year old boy who has just found out what his cock is for.