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Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 11:39
by Autobarn
Many fighters put a good stone on after weigh ins. I thought we all knew about this.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 12:02
by J
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:33
by Colesy
DG. wrote:search wrote:how exactly do fighters weigh in a stone less. do they just not eat or drink anything for two days before the fight or something? Anybody know?
Thats part of it - they eat very little and drain the body of water, hence the problem with the cerebal fluid surrounding the brain being diminished and causing the brain to crash against the now lacking in protective fluid skull.
The smaller guys are at the most risk.
Is very rare that this happens to the heavyweights because they do not need to drain.
This is the reason weigh ins were brought forward to the preceeding day of the fight to allow the fighters to rehydrate. Weigh ins on the day of the fight was cited as a contributing factor for ring fatalaties as the fighters who were weight drained struggled to rehydrate.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:41
by Finch
Every time Hatton opens his mouth, the more and more i want him to get beat.
At a guess i would say if Hatton goes into the ring at 154 he weighs more than most Welterweights do on fight night ? If that's the case, then his "avoidance" of this division makes him more of a fraud.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:45
by J
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:47
by jamesmcdonnell
Finch wrote:Every time Hatton opens his mouth, the more and more i want him to get beat.
At a guess i would say if Hatton goes into the ring at 154 he weighs more than most Welterweights do on fight night ? If that's the case, then his "avoidance" of this division makes him more of a fraud.
Well you would be wrong. Most Welterweights weigh more not less
You are a wazzock of the highest order. Every single fighter out there cuts weight. If Manny wants to move up to Hatton's territory, that's his lookout, it's not Ricky's fault Manny wants the fight.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:48
by banjo
Very few fighters weigh the same on fight night as they do at the weighin, Morales, Vargas, Mayorga and Margarito are prime examples
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:51
by Finch
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Finch wrote:Every time Hatton opens his mouth, the more and more i want him to get beat.
At a guess i would say if Hatton goes into the ring at 154 he weighs more than most Welterweights do on fight night ? If that's the case, then his "avoidance" of this division makes him more of a fraud.
Well you would be wrong. Most Welterweights weigh more not less
You are a wazzock of the highest order. Every single fighter out there cuts weight. If Manny wants to move up to Hatton's territory, that's his lookout, it's not Ricky's fault Manny wants the fight.
Most welterweights put on 14 pounds as well do they ?
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:52
by states
banjo wrote:Very few fighters weigh the same on fight night as they do at the weighin, Morales, Vargas, Mayorga and Margarito are prime examples
Speaking of Vargas and weight, did you see that photo of him in BN today?
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:52
by banjo
states wrote:banjo wrote:Very few fighters weigh the same on fight night as they do at the weighin, Morales, Vargas, Mayorga and Margarito are prime examples
Speaking of Vargas and weight, did you see that photo of him in BN today?
Not bought my copy yet
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:55
by banjo
Finch wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Finch wrote:Every time Hatton opens his mouth, the more and more i want him to get beat.
At a guess i would say if Hatton goes into the ring at 154 he weighs more than most Welterweights do on fight night ? If that's the case, then his "avoidance" of this division makes him more of a fraud.
Well you would be wrong. Most Welterweights weigh more not less
You are a wazzock of the highest order. Every single fighter out there cuts weight. If Manny wants to move up to Hatton's territory, that's his lookout, it's not Ricky's fault Manny wants the fight.
Most welterweights put on 14 pounds as well do they ?
Joshua Clottey put on 23lbs when he fought Zab, Margarito puts on 12-14 pounds, Cotto used to put on more than Hatton when he was down at 140.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:56
by J
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Finch wrote:Every time Hatton opens his mouth, the more and more i want him to get beat.
At a guess i would say if Hatton goes into the ring at 154 he weighs more than most Welterweights do on fight night ? If that's the case, then his "avoidance" of this division makes him more of a fraud.
Well you would be wrong. Most Welterweights weigh more not less
You are a wazzock of the highest order. Every single fighter out there cuts weight. If Manny wants to move up to Hatton's territory, that's his lookout, it's not Ricky's fault Manny wants the fight.
Thank you James, sometimes i wonder about the gene pool of the folk that post on here.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:56
by J
Finch wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Finch wrote:Every time Hatton opens his mouth, the more and more i want him to get beat.
At a guess i would say if Hatton goes into the ring at 154 he weighs more than most Welterweights do on fight night ? If that's the case, then his "avoidance" of this division makes him more of a fraud.
Well you would be wrong. Most Welterweights weigh more not less
You are a wazzock of the highest order. Every single fighter out there cuts weight. If Manny wants to move up to Hatton's territory, that's his lookout, it's not Ricky's fault Manny wants the fight.
Most welterweights put on 14 pounds as well do they ?
75% between 10 and 16 llbs yes.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:57
by Dioufy
states wrote:banjo wrote:Very few fighters weigh the same on fight night as they do at the weighin, Morales, Vargas, Mayorga and Margarito are prime examples
Speaking of Vargas and weight, did you see that photo of him in BN today?
Feck yeah, how the eff did he get that big?
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 15:19
by jamesmcdonnell
He's got an underactive thyroid, that's why he baloons in weight so much.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 16:34
by DG.
J wrote:
tell greg page that
Is very rare that this happens to the heavyweights because they do not need to drain.
Greg Page was a combination of age and punishment.
And it is very rare in the heavyweight division. Its a proven fact that the lower weight fighters are more at risk.
Its also proven that it is weight making that causes the real long term damage/trauma in Boxing.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 16:36
by DG.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 07 Mar 2009, 06:18
by observer1
Why does Hatton not fight at Welter Weight then ?
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 07 Mar 2009, 06:30
by banjo
observer1 wrote:Why does Hatton not fight at Welter Weight then ?
Why should he?
Is there a bigger fight than Pacquiao? Nup
I know what you are saying but we don't live in an ideal world(if we did we'd all be communists) so you make the most out of the advantages at hand.
I just think it's hilarious that Hatton is the only fighter who gets stick for it.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 07 Mar 2009, 06:30
by DG.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 07 Mar 2009, 16:52
by Asterix
HPI wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Saw this on another site and thought it was ironic Hatton plans on being a weight class above Pacquaio on fight night AND claims to be fighting for the P4P championship. IMO concentration on size too much over boxing skills could be his downfall. Here it is:
The 30-year-old IBO light-welterweight champion said: "I think my size will make a difference.
"Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya in his last fight but, with all due respect to my friend and promoter, I think anyone could have beaten him that night.
"Oscar got in the ring at 147lbs but I'll be 154. I'll be the biggest fighter Manny has ever faced."
WTF? What the hell is this? Psychological warfare? If Hatton weighs in at 140 lbs, which he will have to without a single lb above. He thinks he's gonna gain 14 lbs (1 stone) by fight time? If I'm not mistaken the official weigh in is only 24 hours between then and fight time, no?
Surely this is madness. Won't he be bloated?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2297179.ece
Hatton got in the Ring at 154 against Malignaggi
No, Hatton was 152 lbs (for HBO's weigh in). Pacquiao will weigh close to 150 lbs when they fight. Weight will not determine the winner.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 07 Mar 2009, 19:46
by Colesy
Yep, weights got sod all to do with this fight.
If Hatton can take Pac Mans left hand he will win a thriller down the stretch. At some point, probably early he will be caught with it. Will be very interesting to see what happens after that bomb lands.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 07 Mar 2009, 19:51
by Deadendgeneration
Not sure if Pacman can really hurt him with single shots. If he gets in and out with fast combos then Hatton will be in trouble but Hatton took Kostya’s best and no1 will ever convince me Pac throws nearly as hard.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 08 Mar 2009, 08:17
by DG.
Deadendgeneration wrote:Not sure if Pacman can really hurt him with single shots. If he gets in and out with fast combos then Hatton will be in trouble but Hatton took Kostya’s best and no1 will ever convince me Pac throws nearly as hard.
DLH said Pacman does not hit hard at all but DLH has a better chin than Hatton.
Re: Hatton plans to heavily outweigh Pacquaio to be P4P
Posted: 08 Mar 2009, 08:29
by HPI
Asterix wrote:HPI wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Saw this on another site and thought it was ironic Hatton plans on being a weight class above Pacquaio on fight night AND claims to be fighting for the P4P championship. IMO concentration on size too much over boxing skills could be his downfall. Here it is:
The 30-year-old IBO light-welterweight champion said: "I think my size will make a difference.
"Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya in his last fight but, with all due respect to my friend and promoter, I think anyone could have beaten him that night.
"Oscar got in the ring at 147lbs but I'll be 154. I'll be the biggest fighter Manny has ever faced."
WTF? What the hell is this? Psychological warfare? If Hatton weighs in at 140 lbs, which he will have to without a single lb above. He thinks he's gonna gain 14 lbs (1 stone) by fight time? If I'm not mistaken the official weigh in is only 24 hours between then and fight time, no?
Surely this is madness. Won't he be bloated?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2297179.ece
Hatton got in the Ring at 154 against Malignaggi
No, Hatton was 152 lbs (for HBO's weigh in). Pacquiao will weigh close to 150 lbs when they fight. Weight will not determine the winner.
I couldnt care less what HBO said, there are videos on you tube of hatton in the changing rooms before the malignaggi fight and he states he had put on 14lbs since the weigh in. Thats 154lb in total
