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Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 15:36
by BABY BLUE
Twinkle Toes wrote:PN - Your crystal ball is fĂșcked, take it back to Argos.

LOL. yep it is. nah i thinks its a bad move on team khans end though. they took the PPV thing to soon. i think he should have stuck with ITV. more viewers.more coverage.
if he looses against MAB then its a taxi for khan :>

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 16:14
by Asterix
I think Juan Diaz is the worst style match up for Khan. He'd be all over Khan like a bad rash and we know that Khan doesn't like pressure.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 16:47
by Captain Hook
Asterix wrote:I think Juan Diaz is the worst style match up for Khan. He'd be all over Khan like a bad rash and we know that Khan doesn't like pressure.
Judging by last week's fight both Diaz and Marquez would KO him....

But I still fancy Khan to become a world champion.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 18:00
by hitman09
Captain Hook wrote:
Asterix wrote:I think Juan Diaz is the worst style match up for Khan. He'd be all over Khan like a bad rash and we know that Khan doesn't like pressure.
Judging by last week's fight both Diaz and Marquez would KO him....

But I still fancy Khan to become a world champion.
WBF?

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 18:48
by failedairman
the lad is 5'10" and fighting at 135lbs, can't see him going on at this weight forever. In 3 years he will be at 140 at least and his speed will be outdone by power. He will still be young but there are loads of LWW who will be less 30-35 and capable of schooling Amir.

Some may say he ran onto Prescott punch but being put down by Gomez didn't look good.

Less hype and more boxing, roll on Saturday, MAB may be old but last 2 loss are 12 rounders against world champions.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 05:37
by BABY BLUE
Captain Hook wrote:
Asterix wrote:I think Juan Diaz is the worst style match up for Khan. He'd be all over Khan like a bad rash and we know that Khan doesn't like pressure.
Judging by last week's fight both Diaz and Marquez would KO him....

But I still fancy Khan to become a world champion.
yeah soon as the first bell went .Diaz was on to marquez thorwing combination of punches towards him though.
if Diaz was to ever fight khan then i can see diaz winning by a ko in round 2 -3.Diaz is too smart for khan and so is marquez. khan has not fought anyone in the top ten LW figthers in the world yet.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 06:35
by tonyevs
Isn`t Valero at lightweight now .. that spells disaster faster than the Prescott mauling :D
And Guzman is there also? .. the Peterson brother ... there will be many genuine lightweights with a decent punch that will stop Khan ever reaching the mythical p4p ... unless you mean the top 10 p4p in the Amir Khan household? :lol:

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 06:39
by DG.
tonyevs wrote:Isn`t Valero at lightweight now .. that spells disaster faster than the Prescott mauling :D
And Guzman is there also? .. the Peterson brother ... there will be many genuine lightweights with a decent punch that will stop Khan ever reaching the mythical p4p ... unless you mean the top 10 p4p in the Amir Khan household? :lol:
Even then he might be number 2!


:D

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 06:52
by Captain Hook
hitman09 wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:
Asterix wrote:I think Juan Diaz is the worst style match up for Khan. He'd be all over Khan like a bad rash and we know that Khan doesn't like pressure.
Judging by last week's fight both Diaz and Marquez would KO him....

But I still fancy Khan to become a world champion.
WBF?
come on be fair he's a good fighter with a dodgy chin....there are worse fighters to have become world champions, especially at WBO level

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 07:58
by Autobarn
I see what PN is saying. Let's not forget many experts said Haye was going nowhere after being dropped by Mock and stopped by Thompson. Haye ended up being a unified cruiserweight world champ. If he has lost out on the Wlad shot, Wlad also doesn't have an opponent now.

Khan - like Haye - seems to have buckled down with the training. Not to say that Oliver Harrison wasn't right for him - we've seen the superb boxing that Harrison can bring out of a fighter - but Khan has gone to America, got the sparring, and it would seem submitted himself fully to Roach's regime. So he has the sparring, the training. He has the profile, and he has the promoter who knows something about good timing/getting right fights at the right time.

The minuses obviously are the chin, which could gey blasted out any time. And the money - to get the PPV money he has to up the level of comp, hence Barrera. He'll want more and more money and the stakes will be higher. The fights potentially more dangerous and the likelihood of getting stopped greater. Though perhaps if he beats MAB they can milk that for a few fights.

Haye was rehabilitated well. He was put in some dangerous situations and went through a good cut check to get his title shot. I would love to see Khan hurt by someone in his prime, well prepared for the fight, and see Khan overcome the crisis. We need to see that kind of thing to have any certainty. (And I don't mean getting up to beat Limond).

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 08:22
by Bard of Boxrec
but haye was a dynamite puncher. Khan doesn't have that equaliser - how many times did he hit that danish pastry clean before he even thought about going down? Michael Gomez ditto? This shot Gomez certainly didn't look discouraged by all the shots he was catching.

So what if Khan has 'buckled down'. The fact remains that the guy has no truly effective weapons at the highest level. Speed isn't effective without either power or the ability to go the distance and use that speed to land more shots while being evasive and winning points decision. Khan doesn't have either capability.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 08:52
by BABY BLUE
Even then he might be number 2!


:D[/quote]

LOL. yeah he has one dodgy chin .i think khan has taken the PPV too soon .i guess the prescott fight was worth the money though. hatton even mensioned it though .that khan has taken the PPV too soon. he wil have to face all the top figthers at LW. he will get ko'd unless he moves up a weight.?

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 08:55
by Captain Hook
Riddick Blowe wrote:but haye was a dynamite puncher. Khan doesn't have that equaliser - how many times did he hit that danish pastry clean before he even thought about going down? Michael Gomez ditto? This shot Gomez certainly didn't look discouraged by all the shots he was catching.

So what if Khan has 'buckled down'. The fact remains that the guy has no truly effective weapons at the highest level. Speed isn't effective without either power or the ability to go the distance and use that speed to land more shots while being evasive and winning points decision. Khan doesn't have either capability.

He has power, ask Earl. He has great handspeed, a lot of boxing ability and great footwork.

I agree that defensively but come on mate, he's not a total write-off - surely?

The St Clair fight is a case in point.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 12:54
by hitman09
Captain Hook wrote:
hitman09 wrote:
Captain Hook wrote: Judging by last week's fight both Diaz and Marquez would KO him....

But I still fancy Khan to become a world champion.
WBF?
come on be fair he's a good fighter with a dodgy chin....there are worse fighters to have become world champions, especially at WBO level
Not in divisions that are as stacked as LW is at the moment

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 13:31
by ALI
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Time is on Khan's side, hes the future of British boxing and I'm getting in on the bandwagon when his stocks at its lowest, anywhere I can put a bet on him being a world champ or 2weight champ?
:DD

Sure....... how much were you thinking off betting? I'll take as much as you can stake, and as for him becoming a two weight champ (WBC, WBA, IBF) i'll even let you choose your own odds :DDD

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 11:19
by Captain Hook
Yeah but he's probably got a good 7/8 years left of his career....Marquez is 35 etc.

I agree he'd struggle against the top names though, and to be a proper champion you should beat the best, or at least give it a good go.

Not wait for them to age....and retire

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 15:17
by hitman09
sg1985 wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:Yeah but he's probably got a good 7/8 years left of his career....Marquez is 35 etc.

I agree he'd struggle against the top names though, and to be a proper champion you should beat the best, or at least give it a good go.

Not wait for them to age....and retire
i dont think it'd be khans fault if he didnt get to fight marquez, marquez like you say is 35 and probably wint have many more fights, especially against someone who isnt going to give him a massive pay day
If Khan beats Barrera (which I doubt) then I'm sure the money for a Marquez fight would be huge.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 12:28
by hitman09
sg1985 wrote: true, but i think marquez will move up, whats a fight with khan really worth? he could easilly pick up a belt at 140 and become the first 4 weight mexican world champion.
I'm not saying it's worth anything in terms of legacy, just that he'd make a fortune

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 12:45
by charlieb
I dont think Khan will get past MAB, but I wouldn't write him off against anyone. That includes Diaz and Marquez.

To have been thrown in there with MAB, Khan must have been showing Roach something pretty special. There are other opponents out there who could have validated the need for PPV, with a much lower risk attached.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 21:58
by Quixall
Judging by last week's fight both Diaz and Marquez would KO him....

But I still fancy Khan to become a world champion.[/quote]
WBF?[/quote]

come on be fair he's a good fighter with a dodgy chin....there are worse fighters to have become world champions, especially at WBO level[/quote]
You say Khan's a good fighter,

On what evidence ? Who has he fought ?

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 14 Mar 2009, 10:48
by BABY BLUE
hitman09 wrote:
sg1985 wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:Yeah but he's probably got a good 7/8 years left of his career....Marquez is 35 etc.

I agree he'd struggle against the top names though, and to be a proper champion you should beat the best, or at least give it a good go.

Not wait for them to age....and retire
i dont think it'd be khans fault if he didnt get to fight marquez, marquez like you say is 35 and probably wint have many more fights, especially against someone who isnt going to give him a massive pay day
If Khan beats Barrera (which I doubt) then I'm sure the money for a Marquez fight would be huge.
yeah it would generate alot of money .but Marquez will take khan back to boxing skool .he would get ko'd big time.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 14 Mar 2009, 11:12
by hitman09
BABY BLUE wrote:
yeah it would generate alot of money .but Marquez will take khan back to boxing skool .he would get ko'd big time.
I know that and have stated it previously. The point of my comment was not to suggest that it

would benefit Marquez' legacy to beat Khan, but that he would make a lot of money out of it. As I

have said, I believe Barrera will KO Khan.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 14 Mar 2009, 19:54
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Step 1 Complete!!!

FACT: MArquez and Pacman had far more problems with Barrera

Bring on Marquez and all his problems with boxers and speed and suckerability for the left hand :DD

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 14 Mar 2009, 19:55
by dondada
Khan will never be P4P top ten as long as I have a hole in my arse.

Re: Mark my words Khan will be P4P top10 within 3years

Posted: 14 Mar 2009, 19:58
by Spud
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Khan will never be P4P top ten as long as I have a hole in my arse.
Completely agreed.

Khan did well against a bloody good fighter - but a fighter who has had his day.

when Khan fights a world class fighter who also has the same hunger then watch his chin.

Its not me being bitter and twisted I always thought Khan would beat an old MAB - as soon as he steps up in class he will be well and truly exposed.