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J wrote:at 140 hatton.

coghaugen11 wrote:Let's be real. Mosley and Hopkins are far better boxers than Hatton.

This 'P4P' thing started coming into the fray around the time Toney, Whitaker and Jones Jr were tops at the same time, and McClellan.

Actually, Jones Jr was in the magazine top-10 in '92, before he'd fought anyone. Back then it was based on who the Americans thought was the best, subjectively. Because that's all it really is, subjective. If Mayweather fought Klitschko, he'd be knocked out by the first jab landed.

What does it mean exactly?

stujones wrote: Mosley didn't look good 2 fights ago.

J wrote:I dont agree whether you like it or not their resume's are fairly close in comparison.


Who takes more risks what fight Mayweather or Gomez / jennings?
If you wanna continue to be daft on this issue.

get effing real.
better fighter
At 140 hatton, at welter cotto.


who is more accomplished at what?
They have diffierent styles that equally effective for each fighter.

Who takes more risks well, Hatton fought Zoo when Cotto was struggling with Torres are you seriously suggesting that Torres was more of a risk?

Hatton fought Mayweather, Cotto fought Margerito both lost badly. Both high risk fights.

Hatton is fighting Pac and Cotto fought mosely....

there aint much in it DG if you take the blinkers off.

Cotto beats hatton at welter and hatton beats cotto at 140 should he ever be able to make it.


Your hatred of hatton just blinds you to the facts mate Im afraid.

You crap on about all thes no hopers that hatton has fought as a champ, urango (who has turned out to be a more than decent fighter) they both fought maussa, both fought magg, hatton since being champ has CERTAINLY not had as easy a nights work as Alfonso frikken gomez nor the out of his depth Jennings.


There really isnt much in it .

Does that answer you question?

Wrists wrote:J - mate don't bother trying to argue logically with the logically challenged.

DG - just be objective, its not hard

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

stujones wrote: Mosley didn't look good 2 fights ago.

Mosley shut out Collazo who arguably beat Hatton, not because of size but because of skill, Hatton reportedly weighed more than Collazo on fight night and P4P is about ability relative weight.

J wrote:as said no one was saying castillo or kostya were shot prior so why say it now.
You ae getting a bit desperate arent you? Quoting pinto as an unbeaten slugger, I mean fighting a load of south american tomato cans then cotto then disappearing off the face of the earth doesnt exactly add much gravitas to your argument, nor does getting kd'd by torres 3 times and nearly stopped when hatton was taking out Zoo.

Quoting Judah, kind of negates your argument as he was a shell of the fighter he once was by the time cotto got to him and cotto still struggled at times with Zab.

Cottos best win by a mile is mosley (thought he lost) Hatton is Zoo at present.

Not really much in it is there?

we will just have to agree to disagree DG.

Which is fine.

J wrote:so he never fought mayweather was he not hot then? kinell.

who had also been operating at a higher weight?

he never fought zoo when everyone thougth he was gonna get kalined in two rounds.....come on mate be fair.

And now he is fighting pac who just destroyed oscar (whom everyone now is so wise about being shot) these arent easy fights mate, there people you can levy picking and choosing against but hatton I dont agree, anymore than I would if you said the same of Cotto.

J wrote:so we are going back to his record pre zoo now that is four years ago as a proof of what exactly?

So what are your views of Cotto fighting Jennings and Gomez then exactly?

J wrote:wellhe became a two weight champ, took on the p4p 1 and gamley lost.

Fought all the best contenders at his correect division and beat them easily and is now taking on the cutrent p4p number 1.


not bad if you ask me.

Has cotto been near a p4p number one?


no .

so pbf, and pac arent live, and nor was paulie at the time ???? kinell mate what do you want more blood?

silly argument.

J wrote:so we are going back to his record pre zoo now that is four years ago as a proof of what exactly?

So what are your views of Cotto fighting Jennings and Gomez then exactly?

or on the way up Branco, Bailey, martinez, Caballos?


hardly stellar is it?

J wrote:wellhe became a two weight champ, took on the p4p 1 and gamley lost.

Fought all the best contenders at his correct division beating other belt holders in the process and beat them easily and is now taking on the cutrent p4p number 1.


not bad if you ask me.

Has cotto been near a p4p number one?


no .

so pbf, and pac arent live, and nor was paulie at the time, urango has gone to consolidate himself as a top fighter at LW ???? kinell mate what do you want more blood?


Beat ALL the belt holders at 140?
Cotto?
Witter?

He fought the WEAKEST he could find at LW and Welter to get a belt.


I said he fight less than stellar opponents to GET TO THE TOP BOYS!




silly argument.