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Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 19:21
by toppity
Brute wrote:Hopfrog in three. Cliff's 8th straight loss, 6 by KO.

Is it time for Cliff to try another job?
not according to N2shape. :D

seriously though....his tme is up. He will suffer the effects of these ko's in latter life. the sooner he finds an alternative the better.

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 19:35
by Brute
toppity wrote:
Brute wrote:Hopfrog in three. Cliff's 8th straight loss, 6 by KO.

Is it time for Cliff to try another job?
not according to N2shape. :D

seriously though....his tme is up. He will suffer the effects of these ko's in latter life. the sooner he finds an alternative the better.
He could always work as a trainer.

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 19:46
by Sweet P
It was his 8th straight loss. How do you think he would have gone though if he had a proper training camp and wasnt flown in the day before the fight.

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 02:48
by gerry
hoppa looked good threw alot of lefts which is unusual for him apparently has found alot of motivation since his fight with mirovic but unfortunately couser threw as many punches as rounds did take alot of big punches however and stated after fight that hopoate needs to start to snap his punches if he wants to go further
cliff defended the whole time and never tested hoppa
was dissappionted in his attack didnt look like he wanted to be there
no sign of being a good puncher didnt answer bell for fourth
after watching last night soliman definitely would have been comfortable to go the whole 8 rounds with cliff

someone to look out for in the future jodie gall great talent :lol:
please do yourself a favour and quit before you get hurt
boxing isnt for everyone
hopefully someone will let you know and sometimes you have to be cruel to be nice

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 04:17
by oliverfennell
Brute wrote:Hopoate is Australian, Couser is American.

The winner is the WBO Africa Heavyweight Champion.

Is this getting a bit silly? :confused:
Well Irish-Kiwi Shane Cameron beat Croatian-Aussie Bob Mirovic for the IBF's African belt. At least Couser's an African-American ...

Any truth to the rumour Cameron-Tua is going to be for the all-Arctic Circle belt?

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 05:29
by AntonS
oliverfennell wrote:
Brute wrote:Hopoate is Australian, Couser is American.

The winner is the WBO Africa Heavyweight Champion.

Is this getting a bit silly? :confused:
Well Irish-Kiwi Shane Cameron beat Croatian-Aussie Bob Mirovic for the IBF's African belt. At least Couser's an African-American ...

Any truth to the rumour Cameron-Tua is going to be for the all-Arctic Circle belt?
Why not? It's as good as Thai vs. Indonesian in Thailand for IBF Australasian belt :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW, Couser didn't want the possibility of being WBO African champ so it was reduced to 8 rounder :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 11:27
by Hounddawg
oliverfennell wrote:
Brute wrote:Hopoate is Australian, Couser is American.

The winner is the WBO Africa Heavyweight Champion.

Is this getting a bit silly? :confused:
Well Irish-Kiwi Shane Cameron beat Croatian-Aussie Bob Mirovic for the IBF's African belt. At least Couser's an African-American ...

Any truth to the rumour Cameron-Tua is going to be for the all-Arctic Circle belt


Classic, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 11:45
by Hounddawg
Ben Edwards is down to fight April 24th vs unknown.

For those who don't know, Edwards destroyed Hoppa in less than a round.

Very interesting to see if these boys fight again.

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 14:32
by N2 Shape
Lets no forget CLiff was flown in the day of the fight as a late sub.............perhaps would have given a better showing of himself had he had some time to rest. Hoppa couldnt KO/TKO Couser a guy normally stopped inside 2 rounds by top contenders even after he arrived the morning of the fight.................

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 15:39
by AntonS
Craig
Cliffy took & takes fights for $$$. Would've made any difference if brought over 2 weeks ago.
There was nothing wrong with him @ end of round 3...He simply didn't answer the bell for round 4.
First time for me having to record TKO @ 0:01 of next round in OZ

To be honest, Couser couldn't & probably wouldn't fight his way out of a paper bag if his life depended on it.

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 17:25
by toppity
Personally, i like loyalty. But it doesn't matter what i think. N2Shape, i think in general people understand the benefits of having had fighters (and i hope the use of past tence it's getting closer to being accurate) like Cliff in the industry. He has served the sport well and has probably made a half descent living for himself (at the least I hope). But he has limitiations in ability and goals. I'm happy for you to defend him, but i can't see how, with Cliff's track record, arriving early for this fight would have made much difference.

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 23:18
by N2 Shape
Im not saying in anyway CLiff would have won this fight or anything of that nature. But I think if you ask anyone, fighter, businessman or holiday maker they will all agree after the length of flight Cliff had theres no way he would be feeling 100% come Friday evening for his fight (remembering he arrived Friday morning) Cliff is limited, and is at the end of his career but he was able to perform better (if only showing heart and grit) against Solo for having had 3 days before the fight.

Thats all im saying

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 01:08
by toppity
N2 Shape wrote:Im not saying in anyway CLiff would have won this fight or anything of that nature. But I think if you ask anyone, fighter, businessman or holiday maker they will all agree after the length of flight Cliff had theres no way he would be feeling 100% come Friday evening for his fight (remembering he arrived Friday morning) Cliff is limited, and is at the end of his career but he was able to perform better (if only showing heart and grit) against Solo for having had 3 days before the fight.

Thats all im saying
and that seems fair enough :TU:

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 10:25
by Hounddawg
How many consecutive Loses does a fighter need before they take his license?

Re: John Hopoate vs. Cliff Couser - Fri 20 March Manly

Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 17:18
by Marlin
Hounddog wrote:How many consecutive Loses does a fighter need before they take his license?
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer