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Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 21:39
by metropol
knowitall wrote:
Goz wrote:
knowitall wrote:Where was this thread before Dunne won this title? If anyone has a link to the "Ricardo Cordoba - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!" thread, please post it.
Bitter f$*kers!
It's a British forum.
Bernard Dunne is Irish not British.
i think its generally accepted that we speak about british and irish fighters here because they are often linked and fight for british titles and so on.

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 06:42
by Goz
knowitall wrote:
Goz wrote:
knowitall wrote:Where was this thread before Dunne won this title? If anyone has a link to the "Ricardo Cordoba - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!" thread, please post it.
Bitter f$*kers!
It's a British forum.
Bernard Dunne is Irish not British.
He's nearer to British than Richard Cordoba I feel and as metropol pointed out, you're just being an arse now.

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 08:53
by Autobarn
Irish Times refered to Caballero as "the IBF champion." No mention that he's also the true WBA holder, also!

I watched Dunne-Cordoba all the way through. I did not hear any of the commentators explain the WBA situation, that Cordoba was regular champ and that Caballero is super champ.

That's pretty poor, that is. If Sky were arse licking Khan, they would have explained all the alphabet soup, if he was in a similar situation.

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 09:00
by slapbangwhallop
Autobarn wrote:Irish Times refered to Caballero as "the IBF champion." No mention that he's also the true WBA holder, also!

I watched Dunne-Cordoba all the way through. I did not hear any of the commentators explain the WBA situation, that Cordoba was regular champ and that Caballero is super champ.

That's pretty poor, that is. If Sky were arse licking Khan, they would have explained all the alphabet soup, if he was in a similar situation.
yes, this is without doubt - I am have been slaughtered on an Irish website for mentioning it.

Not one mention of Caballero in the Irish media or the fact that Dunnes title in a glorified interim title.

All gone under the carpet - sweep, sweep!

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 09:10
by Autobarn
If Peters can put on this Dunne-Vazquez fight, though, and if Dunne were able to get the win, he'd be regarded above Caballero. That would be a smart move, IF they can get Vazquez, and beat what is left of Vazquez.

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 09:20
by slapbangwhallop
Autobarn wrote:If Peters can put on this Dunne-Vazquez fight, though, and if Dunne were able to get the win, he'd be regarded above Caballero. That would be a smart move, IF they can get Vazquez, and beat what is left of Vazquez.
I dont think that Vazquez is actually a target tbh

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:19
by Dioufy
knowitall wrote: Bitter f$*kers!
You think I am bitter just because I didn't start a thread about Ricardo Cordoba? If so then you're the bitter one, because if you read my opening post, I applauded Dunne for his win, but that win, for me, doesn't justify him being called a genuine world champion.

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:23
by Autobarn
sligobhoy67 wrote:
Autobarn wrote:If Peters can put on this Dunne-Vazquez fight, though, and if Dunne were able to get the win, he'd be regarded above Caballero. That would be a smart move, IF they can get Vazquez, and beat what is left of Vazquez.
I dont think that Vazquez is actually a target tbh
it would enable Dunne to rise above the "he isn't champ, he is champ" controversy. It would also mean he wouldn't have to fight the big, awkward, difficult Caballero.

Technically, Vazquez could be outjabbed or outsped. Also, Vazquez may have very little left after such a series of punishing fights.

I'm not sure where the fight would be. Somewhere in America where Irish-Americans would turn up to see Dunne? Could they get Vazquez to Ireland?

I think Peters did say that's the fight he wants, though whether or not it's true is another matter. Looks like Dunne's ppl had to make a brave choice fighting Cordoba, which paid off. Might there be another bold gamble?

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:29
by metropol
Autobarn wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:
Autobarn wrote:If Peters can put on this Dunne-Vazquez fight, though, and if Dunne were able to get the win, he'd be regarded above Caballero. That would be a smart move, IF they can get Vazquez, and beat what is left of Vazquez.
I dont think that Vazquez is actually a target tbh
it would enable Dunne to rise above the "he isn't champ, he is champ" controversy. It would also mean he wouldn't have to fight the big, awkward, difficult Caballero.

Technically, Vazquez could be outjabbed or outsped. Also, Vazquez may have very little left after such a series of punishing fights.

I'm not sure where the fight would be. Somewhere in America where Irish-Americans would turn up to see Dunne? Could they get Vazquez to Ireland?

I think Peters did say that's the fight he wants, though whether or not it's true is another matter. Looks like Dunne's ppl had to make a brave choice fighting Cordoba, which paid off. Might there be another bold gamble?
If it were to be in america it should be on the east coast if you was to get the irish americans, maybe msg.
Peters seems keen on america.

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:30
by slapbangwhallop
Autobarn wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:
Autobarn wrote:If Peters can put on this Dunne-Vazquez fight, though, and if Dunne were able to get the win, he'd be regarded above Caballero. That would be a smart move, IF they can get Vazquez, and beat what is left of Vazquez.
I dont think that Vazquez is actually a target tbh
it would enable Dunne to rise above the "he isn't champ, he is champ" controversy. It would also mean he wouldn't have to fight the big, awkward, difficult Caballero.

Technically, Vazquez could be outjabbed or outsped. Also, Vazquez may have very little left after such a series of punishing fights.

I'm not sure where the fight would be. Somewhere in America where Irish-Americans would turn up to see Dunne? Could they get Vazquez to Ireland?

I think Peters did say that's the fight he wants, though whether or not it's true is another matter. Looks like Dunne's ppl had to make a brave choice fighting Cordoba, which paid off. Might there be another bold gamble?
thats the thing, I dont think he means it - for the next fight anyway that is.

Munroe, Martinez, Steve Molitor or Olivier Lontchi are far more likely.

One of the unwritten rules of poker is that you dont go "all in" two hands in a row.

Re: Bernard Dunne - Regular/Super Champion - WTF?!

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 14:48
by Autobarn
definitely. IF they have time to fit one in before Poonsawat, I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone less than Munroe/Martinez. Someone Euro level, that no one's heard of, that they can talk up due to flashy record. Someone that Dunne would look dominant against. Dunne + title will be the draw, not the opponent. Someone competitive, light hitter, that the commentators can dress up as "whourld class". (This is what boxing has taught me to expect, anyway.)

I believe in Dunne after the win over Cordoba. Cordoba's young, in his prime, experienced for his age, hard as nails, difficult. That is a bleeding good win.

If they could land Vazquez, that would be excellent, and not as out of reach as some would think. I reckon Vazquez is at the stage where he cashes out.