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Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:34
by Dioufy
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
banjo wrote:M'Baye wasn't much cop really though was he? He won a title that Hatton vacated and was lucky(IMO) to hang onto it against Kotelnik and then he lost straight after that to Rees. But I still stand by Santana as my pick seeing how he "won" and "defended" his title against Norris and for certain I haven't seen a worse fighter to hold a "major" title in my lifetime.
They didn't even have a proper belt when he won it in Bolton. They had a WBO version with WBA taped over the front.

I wish I was making that up.
Tell me you're kidding.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:41
by hitman_hatton1
i laughed at khan choosing kotelnik.

kotelnik would pick khan apart in my opinion.

hatton was having a laugh about witter. :D

although i hear he could be right. :lol:

froch has a bad obsession with calzaghe.

maybe the boy needs counselling. :twisted:

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:45
by Counter-puncher
Cannibal wrote:This was a question posed on Bunce's show. Hatton said Witter :roll: Froch said Calzaghe :roll: Khan said Kotelnik :roll:

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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I agree with the poster who says Kotelnik would pick Khan apart. :TU:

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:46
by Dioufy
Only seen Kotelnik fight once against Rees - I was impressed.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:57
by Counter-puncher
aye mate he's one of the most under-rated beltholders IMO, excellent allrounder, with a decent enough chin to go with easily under-rated handspeed and that Euro-Shell type guard. the Abdullaev fight's a weird classic, two shell-guard Euroboxers within punching range and throwing punches for 12 rounds. kotelnik's got a nice, fast, well-disguised left hook to the body too. he'd just watch Khan, let him bounce punches off his gloves and sooner or later time him on the way in or out.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:59
by hitman_hatton1
Counter-puncher wrote:
Cannibal wrote:This was a question posed on Bunce's show. Hatton said Witter :roll: Froch said Calzaghe :roll: Khan said Kotelnik :roll:

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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I agree with the poster who says Kotelnik would pick Khan apart. :TU:
yeah me ffs. :D

kotelnik's tight defence would offset those gay flurries.

nice accurate counters coming back from kotelnik. :box:

although my recent predictions would make khan favourite probably. :lol:

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:01
by Counter-puncher
damn. if you're on the bandwagon I'm jumping off then, no offence like :lol: :TU:

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:02
by Finch
metropol wrote:I think Froch was a bit out of order saying joe , did he say it in jest?
Froch is a complete twat of a specimin. I have that gobshite shithouse gets his arse kicked next month.

The guy is making himself look foolish and i am almost embarrassed for him. He harps on about Calzaghe not fighting anyone, now he's the worst world champion of all time, yet Froch has been obsessed with him for years and wants nothing more than to fight him. If he's so shit i ask you Carl:

Why have you spent the last few years obsessed with wanting to fight someone that's "unproven" ?

If you are right about Calzaghe, then why should he fight 'another' nobody in you ?

Why, if Calzaghe is the worst world champion of all time, do you go to bed every night banging one out over the thought of beating him ?

You're an obsessed bitter shithouse, if i was Clazaghe i'd get a restraining order put on you.

Rant over. :TU:

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:22
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:Only seen Kotelnik fight once against Rees - I was impressed.
You were impressed by that? Rees would have beaten him if he had kept his hands up.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:24
by DG.
Horse wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Only seen Kotelnik fight once against Rees - I was impressed.
You were impressed by that? Rees would have beaten him if he had kept his hands up.

Kotelnik is a class operator.


:D

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:28
by Dioufy
Horse wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Only seen Kotelnik fight once against Rees - I was impressed.
You were impressed by that? Rees would have beaten him if he had kept his hands up.
Do one, skip. It's my opinion.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:33
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:
Horse wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Only seen Kotelnik fight once against Rees - I was impressed.
You were impressed by that? Rees would have beaten him if he had kept his hands up.
Do one, skip. It's my opinion.
Fair enough.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 20:23
by Pill_85
To me to be the worse you cant have had a sucessfull defence and the title was won very luckly .

Luis Santana
Alex Arther
Erik Akin
Krystoff Wlodzarcyk (i really dont rate this guy)
Darrin Van Horn
Eddie Hopson
Gary St Clair
Malcom Klassen
Maselino Masoe
Javier Casellijo
Sandiego Samiengo
Gavin Rees
Carlos Mausa
Jose Alfaro
Alonso Ratliff
Christian Sanvia
Daniel Londas
Jason Mathews
Micheal Bent

To be honest there is also fighter like Erdei who has a very poor rein as champ unconvincing and against very poor oposition.

But for the absolute worse i thing Santana just edges it from micheal bent

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 04:05
by junior pepa seed
I said balszay wbo super mid champ...bunce read it out at top of show but didn't use my junior pepa seed name.....

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 07:31
by stujones
Eric Aiken still for me is up there. He won the title via a DQ in a fight he was losing handily, and he lost it in his first defence against a pretty average guy.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 08:00
by Counter-puncher
Pill_85 wrote:To me to be the worse you cant have had a sucessfull defence and the title was won very luckly .

Luis Santana
Alex Arther
Erik Akin
Krystoff Wlodzarcyk (i really dont rate this guy)
Darrin Van Horn
Eddie Hopson
Gary St Clair
Malcom Klassen
Maselino Masoe
Javier Casellijo
Sandiego Samiengo
Gavin Rees
Carlos Mausa
Jose Alfaro
Alonso Ratliff
Christian Sanvia
Daniel Londas
Jason Mathews
Micheal Bent

To be honest there is also fighter like Erdei who has a very poor rein as champ unconvincing and against very poor oposition.

But for the absolute worse i thing Santana just edges it from micheal bent
to me Gairy St Clair stands out from that list as better than the rest of them

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 08:14
by stujones
Jason Matthews - good call!!

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 09:37
by Autobarn
junior pepa seed wrote:I said balszay wbo super mid champ...bunce read it out at top of show but didn't use my junior pepa seed name.....
Balzsay looks good to me. Beat Inkin in classy fight. Give the guy a chance.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 09:45
by rhino222
DG. wrote:
Horse wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Only seen Kotelnik fight once against Rees - I was impressed.
You were impressed by that? Rees would have beaten him if he had kept his hands up.

Kotelnik is a class operator.


:D
kotelnik beats khan, kotelnik would cover up for 6 rounds, till khan shot his bolt, then kotelnik would dismantle khan, trust me on that one. khan is not the second coming, he has already been mightilly exposed, wanting to be 'world champion.... fcuks sake amir, have the decency to fight the guy who beat you if you think you are better.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 09:55
by boxerbob
luis santana is the guy i emailed the show with

2 world title wins both by dq , the first one was one of the worst dying swan acts i have ever seen

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 09:58
by Syntax Error
Derry Matthews? :-?

Leon Spinks? :-?

Marvin Hart? :-?

It might be such that the criteria is narrowed down a bit, as there are so many 'World' title belts now.

A fighter can now become a 'world champion' by opening a box of Bran Flakes after his morning run & sending off a coupon on the back! :o

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 10:00
by DavidPayne
Nah, the criteria should be someone who never won a world title fight, never beat a former champion and never successfully defended the crown.

I can think of Alex Arthur and Lovemore N'Dou of the top of my head.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 10:01
by DavidPayne
The theny talk about winning back THEIR world title....sphincter says what?

Reminds me of when Lee Hendrie used to talk about getting his place back in the England team.

Sphincter says what?

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 10:17
by Carbo
DavidPayne wrote:The theny talk about winning back THEIR world title....sphincter says what?

Reminds me of when Lee Hendrie used to talk about getting his place back in the England team.

Sphincter says what?
Well, it certainly sucks, David.

Re: Worst ever World champ?

Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 11:49
by Bard of Boxrec
I laughed when Khan said Kotelnik - then got a hard on thinking about what the odds would be for Kotlenik should they ever meet.