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Re: john watson jr

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 10:00
by leeharding
jBacca wrote:
patmustard wrote:Watson boxed the correct fight against a more experienced fighter with a reputation for taking the scalps of up-and-coming prospects at domestic level.

Prior to this fight, Watson only had 30 rounds of professsional experience. The lessons he learned in this fight were invaluable. Admittedly, Watson made a couple of mistakes in standing tall with his chin exposed when forced onto the ropes, particularly in the 1st and 10th. However, he was caught a little cold in the first round and in the 10th round he was understandably fatigued. However, he was compos mentis enough to hold on and last the fight out. How many times over the years have British fighters been criticised for their lack of survival instinct when clipped ?Bruno didn't show it, Khan doesn't appear to have it. I also seem to remember Carl Froch being wobbled by moderate opposition earlier in his pro' career. This is professional boxing, not a knitting contest.

Watson outboxed, outfoxed, and at times, outclassed Gethin. I realise the judging of any sport is based on opinion, but I can't for the life of me see how anybody could have scored that fight to Gethin. He had a few fleeting instances of success at the start and end of the fight. Nowhere near enough to take a decision.

Aside from the result, Watson gained the most from the fight. He will improve for the rounds. Could the same be said of Gethin ? If they were to box again, I believe we would see more of the same from Gethin, but in my opinion, Watson would cut out the couple of lapses in concentration he exhibited over a distance he had no previous experience of. The result, I believe, would be more emphatic.

Rather than criticise Watson's performance, which all things considered, was a very good one - he should be applauded for taking such a risky fight against a boxer who was favoured by many neutrals to beat him.

Just because Watson isn't quite ready for John Murray after 10 fights, that does not presuppose that after a few more 8 or 10 rounders, he won't have gained the vital experience and learned the tough lessons necessary to have success at that level.

Personally, I think Willie Limond would be a perfect opponent for Watson in the coming 6 months. He would build up rounds, ringcraft, and would be a good benchmark of his level of skill.
Really good post fella :TU:
decent post

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 13:43
by idle talk
gethin was the english champion, he had beat i think 3 unbeaten prospects, john took him to school. he had never been past 4 rounds to go from 4 to 10, is like a sprint to a marathon. john still works full time, and trains when he gets in from work. he is a dedicated athlete who will go far in the sport. as for lee harding saying john showed no skill, it was all skill that got him through a tough 10 round fight, against a good domestic, tough pressure fighter.

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 16:40
by boxingfarmer30
leeharding wrote:the the hayemaker 6 show one fighter caught my eye and it wasnt because off skill,

imo i thought john watson was a very lucky lad he done nothing but hold run round the ring acting like muhammed ali when he was nothing like him and martin gethin nearly had him out in the 10th he talks about john murrey im very sure that the top 5 in britain at lightweight would rip him to bits wats ure thoughts forum.
john's had ten fights, so is a novice pro,not boxed past four,and to take geth,ten hard rounds,and come away with a win is great for john and great for liverpool boxing,which is on the up with the likes of joe mac,the smiths,the bomber,quigley,dilks to name but a few.john told me he was gone in the tenth but held on,as regards to john going past or on to british level,how many people, boxers or not would love to get to that level,i for one would love to of got o that level,john will win a domestic title,murray will go past domestic and i can't see john ever facing him.shaun. :box:

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 16:43
by whicker
Anyone know when he might be fighting again?

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 06:26
by john watson
Hopefully I'll be back out some time in sept. Thanks for the posts as I like to read what boxing fans think.

Any suggestions on who I should fight next??

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 06:33
by whicker
john watson wrote:
Any suggestions on who I should fight next??
Do we get to choose? :TU:

What about Tom Glover, the guy who shaded Jon Thaxton on Saturday?

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 07:06
by idle talk
i liked the limond shout, maybe a mcallister fight down the line could be a good one, andy morris is ranked at lightweight now tho, that could be a decent match up. tom glover is a welterweight. also the winner of gary buckland v henry castle.

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 11:17
by whicker
idle talk wrote:i liked the limond shout, maybe a mcallister fight down the line could be a good one, andy morris is ranked at lightweight now tho, that could be a decent match up. tom glover is a welterweight.
What is Thaxton? I didn't realise he was boxing at catchweight on Saturday.

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 11:23
by jBacca
whicker wrote:
idle talk wrote:i liked the limond shout, maybe a mcallister fight down the line could be a good one, andy morris is ranked at lightweight now tho, that could be a decent match up. tom glover is a welterweight.
What is Thaxton? I didn't realise he was boxing at catchweight on Saturday.
Yeah Thaxton went up a weight, he said his lack of power at the weight is why he lost.

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 12:51
by leeharding
john watson wrote:Hopefully I'll be back out some time in sept. Thanks for the posts as I like to read what boxing fans think.

Any suggestions on who I should fight next??
i rekkon willie limond john will have to say my 1st post was abit hasty watched the fight again and u dug in deep lad i rekkon watson vs limond for wbu would bea cracking fight and could c john winning it but would answer alot of criticks cant wait 2 c ure next fight and think everyone is steaming for another hayemaker show always good value for money.

Re: john watson jr

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 13:41
by Tommy Gunn13
I think Limond is a step to far at the minute...
buckland-castle winner id say :TU: