Re: Rendall Munroe and Frank Maloney??
Posted: 12 Apr 2009, 10:49
Dunne on points, you?Dioufy wrote:sligobhoy67,
If Munroe and Dunne ever did fight, give us a prediction, mate.
Dunne on points, you?Dioufy wrote:sligobhoy67,
If Munroe and Dunne ever did fight, give us a prediction, mate.
I think Dunne would stop Munroe around the 7th or 8th round. I am not confident in Rendall's chops. Yes, he faced a massive puncher in Martinez twice and wasn't hurt once, but Martinez didn't look like he could handle Munroe's movement, and thus, couldn't land anything at all. The reason I say I feel Dunne would KO Munroe is that Munroe has been wobbled a few times by folk I have never heard of. Martirosyan had him hurt a little, and I think both Bouaita and Trotta troubled him too. And they're not really great opponents.sligobhoy67 wrote:Dunne on points, you?Dioufy wrote:sligobhoy67,
If Munroe and Dunne ever did fight, give us a prediction, mate.
Having consulted with his legal team, Mr Maloney hereafter accepts, without prejudice to his relationship with Mrs Maloney, to being a little prick(in more ways than one) Mr Maloney would like to remind Hitman09 that "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".FtmPress wrote:Well the horrible prick has offer Team Dunne £200,000 to fight Munroe, I bet Dunne has never see that amount of money.For the record Dunne was offer a fight with Munroe but did not want to come to the UK And at the time Munroe was champ and Dunne had nothing so Team Munroe could call the shots, Dunne now has a world title Munroe knows to make the fight he might have to go to Ireland and is quite willing to do that and his horrible (lets not forget the little) prick is willing to pY HIM £200,000 and in IRELAND.hitman09 wrote:Maloney is an ignorant, horrible prick.
Wake up call wrote:
We had a long chat while he was picking his son up from football and not many fighters would do that.
legaleagle.ftm wrote:Having consulted with his legal team, Mr Maloney hereafter accepts, without prejudice to his relationship with Mrs Maloney, to being a little prick(in more ways than one) Mr Maloney would like to remind Hitman09 that "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".FtmPress wrote:Well the horrible prick has offer Team Dunne £200,000 to fight Munroe, I bet Dunne has never see that amount of money.For the record Dunne was offer a fight with Munroe but did not want to come to the UK And at the time Munroe was champ and Dunne had nothing so Team Munroe could call the shots, Dunne now has a world title Munroe knows to make the fight he might have to go to Ireland and is quite willing to do that and his horrible (lets not forget the little) prick is willing to pY HIM £200,000 and in IRELAND.hitman09 wrote:Maloney is an ignorant, horrible prick.
A few people have commented on other forums and the actual commentators when he fought Martinez, that Munroe was getting a bit cocky and things he has said in the press do make him sound like he is getting too big for his boots, so it is not just my opinion. He may be a nice down to earth guy but some of the stuff he and Maloney comes out with makes no sense whatsoever.neil hibbert wrote:rendalls a top lad imo met him a few times so whoever says hes changed or is 2 big for his boots has obv never met him. to be honest up 2 now ive not met anyone in the boxing circles who i havent liked or been dissapointed with, and little frank is a legend and has always been sound when ive met him
It is a shame you say that because I hear he holds you in very high regard...landon wrote:maloney is a horribly sly little twat
Have you met frank and chatted to him?landon wrote:maloney is a horribly sly little twat
Amen to that.DavidPayne wrote:I don't fathom the stupidity of some contributors on here.
Maloney is a promoter.
With Munroe European champion and Dunne was that bloke who used to train in America but got chinned in one against the Spanish fella, whu would Munroe go running to Ireland for risk and mediocre return.
Maloney and Peter built up the rivalry while Dunne regrouped and Munroe earned.
Peters took a gamble, Maloney watched. Peters came through and now has the upper hand.
A fact Maloney accepts and is now trying hard to force Peters to use that leverage to make his own man the obvious next foe.
By offering £200k for a fight he knows Peters will want to promote he sets the bar for any offer to hos own fighter.
If Peters then offers a figure of say less than £100k for Munroe Maloney can reject it as derisory and either force the hand if he's got the public behnd the fight or move away and follow through the European path.
By making noise Maloney has tied together Munroe and Dunne's names. Now lest we forget Dunne is one of two WBA 122 pound champions, so he shouldn't get too far ahead of himself either. And Peters would be very brave to pay Callabero to come over as Dunne's first fight after a trenches victory to get the belt. They've discounted Wayne as they foresee a one sided beating of a loved legend and they want no part of it so where does that leave them.....
Listening to the clamour Maloney is trying to make for the Munroe fight.
Remember it was only through noise and bluster that Haye got a title shot at Wlad....
Promoters promote, to do that they have to offend, make friends, make outrageous statements, strategise, manouvre - play the fkking game.
Give Maloney credit for being fkking ringside, for wanting the fight. And I think, to answer the specific question about Munroe saying "get him", Maloney originally said Munroe had said he wanted either one of them during the fight - but logically rephrased the quote to focus on Dunne.
Maloney consistently puts on evenly matched shows where the house fighter is involved in a decent tussle.Counter-puncher wrote:agree OBI> last Maloney card I saw, after every fight he went to the 'away' fighter and had a word, looked like he was thanking them for putting on a good show, especially Max Maxwell who gave the local lad a cracking little workout. i thought it a nice touch on FTM's part and he never struck me as a *****eitherOld bones Ian wrote:As i big boxing fan. i've never thought of Maloney as a 'prick'.
yes he maybe gets ot wrong sometimes, but he's a boxing promoter , so that happens with them all.
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"With Munroe European champion and Dunne was that bloke who used to train in America but got chinned in one against the Spanish fella".DavidPayne wrote:I don't fathom the stupidity of some contributors on here.
Maloney is a promoter.
With Munroe European champion and Dunne was that bloke who used to train in America but got chinned in one against the Spanish fella, whu would Munroe go running to Ireland for risk and mediocre return.
Maloney and Peter built up the rivalry while Dunne regrouped and Munroe earned.
Peters took a gamble, Maloney watched. Peters came through and now has the upper hand.
A fact Maloney accepts and is now trying hard to force Peters to use that leverage to make his own man the obvious next foe.
By offering £200k for a fight he knows Peters will want to promote he sets the bar for any offer to hos own fighter.
If Peters then offers a figure of say less than £100k for Munroe Maloney can reject it as derisory and either force the hand if he's got the public behnd the fight or move away and follow through the European path.
By making noise Maloney has tied together Munroe and Dunne's names. Now lest we forget Dunne is one of two WBA 122 pound champions, so he shouldn't get too far ahead of himself either. And Peters would be very brave to pay Callabero to come over as Dunne's first fight after a trenches victory to get the belt. They've discounted Wayne as they foresee a one sided beating of a loved legend and they want no part of it so where does that leave them.....
Listening to the clamour Maloney is trying to make for the Munroe fight.
Remember it was only through noise and bluster that Haye got a title shot at Wlad....
Promoters promote, to do that they have to offend, make friends, make outrageous statements, strategise, manouvre - play the fkking game.
Give Maloney credit for being fkking ringside, for wanting the fight. And I think, to answer the specific question about Munroe saying "get him", Maloney originally said Munroe had said he wanted either one of them during the fight - but logically rephrased the quote to focus on Dunne.
Munroe needs a profile to get title shots, and that's what Maloney is doing. Simmer down.knowitall wrote:"With Munroe European champion and Dunne was that bloke who used to train in America but got chinned in one against the Spanish fella".DavidPayne wrote:I don't fathom the stupidity of some contributors on here.
Maloney is a promoter.
With Munroe European champion and Dunne was that bloke who used to train in America but got chinned in one against the Spanish fella, whu would Munroe go running to Ireland for risk and mediocre return.
Maloney and Peter built up the rivalry while Dunne regrouped and Munroe earned.
Peters took a gamble, Maloney watched. Peters came through and now has the upper hand.
A fact Maloney accepts and is now trying hard to force Peters to use that leverage to make his own man the obvious next foe.
By offering £200k for a fight he knows Peters will want to promote he sets the bar for any offer to hos own fighter.
If Peters then offers a figure of say less than £100k for Munroe Maloney can reject it as derisory and either force the hand if he's got the public behnd the fight or move away and follow through the European path.
By making noise Maloney has tied together Munroe and Dunne's names. Now lest we forget Dunne is one of two WBA 122 pound champions, so he shouldn't get too far ahead of himself either. And Peters would be very brave to pay Callabero to come over as Dunne's first fight after a trenches victory to get the belt. They've discounted Wayne as they foresee a one sided beating of a loved legend and they want no part of it so where does that leave them.....
Listening to the clamour Maloney is trying to make for the Munroe fight.
Remember it was only through noise and bluster that Haye got a title shot at Wlad....
Promoters promote, to do that they have to offend, make friends, make outrageous statements, strategise, manouvre - play the fkking game.
Give Maloney credit for being fkking ringside, for wanting the fight. And I think, to answer the specific question about Munroe saying "get him", Maloney originally said Munroe had said he wanted either one of them during the fight - but logically rephrased the quote to focus on Dunne.
That is a ridiculous statement so let me rewrite it for you so it actually resembles the truth.
"Munroe was a largely unkown boxer who won the European title off a mediocre Spaniard, having done nothing of note before hand (having lost to Andy Morris in the one real step up in his career).
Dunne was that guy who trained under Freddie Roach, sparring with Vasquez,Mosley,Pacman,etc in the Wildcard gym, came back to Ireland to win the European title by beating the very capable Esham Pickering (former British, Commonwealth and European Champion), defended his title twice and got then lost to Martinez."
Anyway...
If Munroe was half the fighter he is thought to be my some, he and Maloney would not need to go through all this media baiting in order to get a title shot. Why not simply go after another title holder? This so called rivalry only exists in Munroe's and Maloney's minds, it is not real! Munroe beat Martinez, so what, does this make a rivalry between him and Dunne? No it does not and Maloney trying deperately to make it out like Dunne is now somehow running from Munroe ("his biggest rival"?!) is ridiculous and an insult to anyone who knows anything about the whole situation.
Matinez V Dunne... now there is a rivalry which could be talked up and actually makes sense, it probably won't happen but it is at least a fight that makes sense.
You say,"Maloney originally said Munroe had said he wanted either one of them during the fight - but logically rephrased the quote to focus on Dunne."
So Maloney is making this shit up, that's what you're telling me. Does anyone honestly believe that Munroe would be even contemplating a fight with Cordoba if he had won?! I can tell you there is no way he would. I don't think Munroe would take on Cordoba even now that he has lost!
Why the fvck should anyone be giving Maloney credit for being ringside? It takes a big man to go on a forum stating that Dunne would "get his ass kicked" and then sit smugly at ringside, huh? And you call others stupid?!!
But thanks ever so much for explaining to me the intricacies of boxing promotion, I never would have figured out Maloney's motives otherwise!
Yeah, maybe Maloney should be trying to raise Munroe's profile by matching him with some decent opposition, (say like someone with a few more than 3 wins on their record), not off the back of Bernard Dunne.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Munroe needs a profile to get title shots, and that's what Maloney is doing. Simmer down.knowitall wrote:"With Munroe European champion and Dunne was that bloke who used to train in America but got chinned in one against the Spanish fella".DavidPayne wrote:I don't fathom the stupidity of some contributors on here.
Maloney is a promoter.
With Munroe European champion and Dunne was that bloke who used to train in America but got chinned in one against the Spanish fella, whu would Munroe go running to Ireland for risk and mediocre return.
Maloney and Peter built up the rivalry while Dunne regrouped and Munroe earned.
Peters took a gamble, Maloney watched. Peters came through and now has the upper hand.
A fact Maloney accepts and is now trying hard to force Peters to use that leverage to make his own man the obvious next foe.
By offering £200k for a fight he knows Peters will want to promote he sets the bar for any offer to hos own fighter.
If Peters then offers a figure of say less than £100k for Munroe Maloney can reject it as derisory and either force the hand if he's got the public behnd the fight or move away and follow through the European path.
By making noise Maloney has tied together Munroe and Dunne's names. Now lest we forget Dunne is one of two WBA 122 pound champions, so he shouldn't get too far ahead of himself either. And Peters would be very brave to pay Callabero to come over as Dunne's first fight after a trenches victory to get the belt. They've discounted Wayne as they foresee a one sided beating of a loved legend and they want no part of it so where does that leave them.....
Listening to the clamour Maloney is trying to make for the Munroe fight.
Remember it was only through noise and bluster that Haye got a title shot at Wlad....
Promoters promote, to do that they have to offend, make friends, make outrageous statements, strategise, manouvre - play the fkking game.
Give Maloney credit for being fkking ringside, for wanting the fight. And I think, to answer the specific question about Munroe saying "get him", Maloney originally said Munroe had said he wanted either one of them during the fight - but logically rephrased the quote to focus on Dunne.
That is a ridiculous statement so let me rewrite it for you so it actually resembles the truth.
"Munroe was a largely unkown boxer who won the European title off a mediocre Spaniard, having done nothing of note before hand (having lost to Andy Morris in the one real step up in his career).
Dunne was that guy who trained under Freddie Roach, sparring with Vasquez,Mosley,Pacman,etc in the Wildcard gym, came back to Ireland to win the European title by beating the very capable Esham Pickering (former British, Commonwealth and European Champion), defended his title twice and got then lost to Martinez."
Anyway...
If Munroe was half the fighter he is thought to be my some, he and Maloney would not need to go through all this media baiting in order to get a title shot. Why not simply go after another title holder? This so called rivalry only exists in Munroe's and Maloney's minds, it is not real! Munroe beat Martinez, so what, does this make a rivalry between him and Dunne? No it does not and Maloney trying deperately to make it out like Dunne is now somehow running from Munroe ("his biggest rival"?!) is ridiculous and an insult to anyone who knows anything about the whole situation.
Matinez V Dunne... now there is a rivalry which could be talked up and actually makes sense, it probably won't happen but it is at least a fight that makes sense.
You say,"Maloney originally said Munroe had said he wanted either one of them during the fight - but logically rephrased the quote to focus on Dunne."
So Maloney is making this shit up, that's what you're telling me. Does anyone honestly believe that Munroe would be even contemplating a fight with Cordoba if he had won?! I can tell you there is no way he would. I don't think Munroe would take on Cordoba even now that he has lost!
Why the fvck should anyone be giving Maloney credit for being ringside? It takes a big man to go on a forum stating that Dunne would "get his ass kicked" and then sit smugly at ringside, huh? And you call others stupid?!!
But thanks ever so much for explaining to me the intricacies of boxing promotion, I never would have figured out Maloney's motives otherwise!
Why is this? Please explain.J wrote:I actually think Munroe would beat the piss out of Dunne.
All wrong sylistically for him.
Isn't he still doing the bins cos Maloney thinks it's a good hook with his fans wearing binman jackets and that crack?mark thompson wrote:Yeah hasn't Munroe got too big for his boots (still doing the bins what a big time charlie he is) Munroe has got to be 1 of the most down to earth guys about in boxing
Sligobhoy 67 is right, Dunne would win on points and I would say a wide points decision either 10-2 or 9-3Dioufy wrote: If Munroe and Dunne ever did fight, give us a prediction
In heard that he think that exercise is worthwhile id say hed better off in the gym.knowitall wrote:Isn't he still doing the bins cos Maloney thinks it's a good hook with his fans wearing binman jackets and that crack?mark thompson wrote:Yeah hasn't Munroe got too big for his boots (still doing the bins what a big time
charlie he is) Munroe has got to be 1 of the most down to earth guys about in boxing
first time i've ever heard it suggested that someone does the bins for the humour/novelty value.... yeah, alarm's going it's 3.30am, i really better get up hadn't i? you know what? i can't be arsed today I'm knackered...i may as well just jack it in... but wait, not so fast! i'd rob my fans of a gimmick.... I just can't let them down like that, it's off into the cold winter's morning for me again, i just hope my yellow jacket wearing fans appreciate the effort.knowitall wrote:Isn't he still doing the bins cos Maloney thinks it's a good hook with his fans wearing binman jackets and that crack?mark thompson wrote:Yeah hasn't Munroe got too big for his boots (still doing the bins what a big time charlie he is) Munroe has got to be 1 of the most down to earth guys about in boxing