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Results to be posted in a few hours,,,,,

I cant wait until the finals!

Winners of Group One:

John L. Sullivan
Jimmy Bivins
Bob Fitzsimmons
Tony Tucker
Chris Byrd
Tommy Burns
Jack Johnson
Frank Bruno
Jack Dempsey
Gene Tunney
Sam Langford
Jack Sharkey


Who will be the winners of group number two???

HomicideHenry wrote:Winners of Group One:

John L. Sullivan
Jimmy Bivins
Bob Fitzsimmons
Tony Tucker
Chris Byrd
Tommy Burns
Jack Johnson
Frank Bruno
Jack Dempsey
Gene Tunney
Sam Langford
Jack Sharkey

?????

sorry Collins, im just bored, and keeping past results fresh in peoples minds.

HomicideHenry wrote:sorry Collins, im just bored, and keeping past results fresh in peoples minds.

That was the first round wasn't it? There were other bouts that eliminated some of those blokes.

Ask that simpleton BRR to fill you in. And make sure he doesn't take that as in invitation to bugger you.

The results for Group 2 - stage 1.

Sam Peter UD 12 Primo Carnera.

Two big men, trading jabs for the early stages. Peters hard
combinations sent Carnera down. The Italian was able to get
back up, but never really got back into the fight. Alot of clinching
and some more knock downs for Peter.

Jimmy Ellis UD 12 Max Baer.

Ellis came out hard and fast looking to knock Baer out, his speed
and accuracy was impressive. He was able to knock Baer down
at the end of the first. The pace evened out after the second
with both guys exchanging at range, it was Ellis however with
straight, and fast jabs and right leads that was able to break the
timing of Baer who seemed to be just that bit short with his power
shots. A good fight, but it was clear come the end that Ellis was
the superior fighter.

John Tate UD 12 Leon Spinks.

Spinks looked suprisingly sharp and accurate with his shots, getting
past the jab and rangey blows of Tate. Early on it seemed that Spinks
was going to dominate. It was in the 6th that things turned around
convincingly, Tate dropping Spinks with a hand grenade of a right
hand. From then on, Tate seemed to slowly take control with Spinks
backing up, clearly wary of Tates power. A good and fun fight to watch
both men game and showing good heart.

Ezzard Charles TKO 8 Georges Carpentier.

It was clear from early on that Charles was every much the better
and stronger man. Both men went to the clinch early, working well at
this range. Charles breaking and landing short and sharp combinations.
Cappentier delivering powerfully compact uppercuts from the clinch
all to often, even wobbling Charles at one stage in the 3rd.
A right hand lead thrown on the outside by Charles dropped Carpentier
in the 5th, who was back up and firing back within seconds.
The Frenchman was game, but by the time of the stoppage at the
8th, he was clearly a beaten and battered man. Charles looked good
and in superb shape.

Joe Louis KO 4 Joe Hipp.

Louis was all over Hipp at nearly every stage of the fight, his jab and
body attacks nullifying the south paw leads from Hipp, who seemed
to struggle to throw a combination without himself eating hard leather
from Louis. The 3rd round saw a right hand smash into the jaw of Hipp
who fell back dramatically into the ropes. He recovered, managing to
last the round. Louis was in hunter-killer mode in the next round
dropping Hipp with a perfect hard jab to the jaw, right hand to the body
and concious separating left hook to Hipp's jaw.

Michael Moorer TKO 9 Oleg Maskaev.

Maskaev looked good early on, beating Moorer to the punch and even
dropping Moorer with flush shot. Moorer recovered well and got himself
back into the fight. Round 5 on, it seemed to be Moorer who was able
to land sharp, clean punches that found the mark perfectly. A crisp
combination on the 9th put Maskaev down, he was back to his feet but
clearly standing on instinct...the ref doing the right thing.

Hasim Rahman UD 12 George Godfrey.

This was a slow, and some what uneventful fight. Neither man really
risking a great deal. Rahman landing big hard shots occasionally while
Godfrey crashed in and clinched. Godfrey looking to throw a wide
hoop and grasp on, or jab and hold his man. The fight made it to the
distance, but never seemed to get stared. Rahman with his power
shots and combinations was clearly the more aggressive.

Mike Weaver KO 1 Ed Smith.

Weaver was all over Smith, a combination of hard hooks blasting Smith
into the ropes. Smith was down and clearly out.

Sultan Ibragimov KO 11 Bruce Seldon.

Seldon looked like a million dollars, fast, in and out, hard to hit and hard
hitting. The first round it seemed that the fight was going to be all his
and over soon. The second round was much the same with Sultan looking
slow and being dominated by a compact war machine in Seldon. But by
the 4th round, Seldon just seemed to have hit a wall. The man that looked
so impressive transformed into something average. Sultan's consistency
began to take its toll, his clean punches and counters landing well.
Seldon by the 10th walking flat footed crashed down after a series of
Sultan's blasting shots. Seldon survived but was down again from an
uppercut, exhaustion, a lack of desire of genuinely being out of it...
we shall never know, but Seldon just sat resting on his gloves as the
ref counted him out.

Rocky Marciano KO 5 Jem Mace.

Marciano was a mobile terror machine as Mace did his best to stop the
Rock with his crude and wide shots. Mace was down in the 1st round
from a sudden left hook. He was back up but the round was over.
The next few rounds saw Marciano stalking Mace, slamming him across
the ring, breaking him down and hurting every where his fists visited on
Mace's body. A right hand followed with a left hook-elbow dropped Mace
at the start of the 5th round. Marciano standing over his man starring
at the helpless Mace. Mace was out of it, clearly over matched.

Ken Norton UD 12 Ed Martin.

Martin did everything he could to avoid Norton, after the first few flurries
Norton's power was too much for Martin. Following Martin around and
landing often Norton was in clear control. Norton looked strong, even though
Martin towered over him and did his best to hold on and keep him at bay
from a distance. Norton's cross defence was enough to catch most of Martin's
blows all being followed by a hard counter from Norton.

Sonny Liston KO 4 Arthur Pelkley.

Watching this fight, what summed things up to me was when Pelkley landed a
right hand flush on Liston, who took it and kept walking forwards. From then
on Pelkley did his best to hold on, fight back and survive as hard long range
jabs, short crisp left hookd and a right had from Liston broke Pelkley down.
A left hook from Liston sent Pelkley down for the count. Liston looked supreme
in this fight and completely dominant.

Fight of the series...suprisingly John Tate - Leon Spinks.

Most impressive fighter - Ezzard Charles and Sonny Liston, both these guys looked
in top shape and sharp.

Stage 2 fights...


Sam Peter (250lbs) Vs John Tate.

Jimmy Ellis (195lbs) Vs Ezzard Charles (190lbs).

Joe Louis (201lbs) Vs Michael Moorer (220lbs).

Hasim Rahman (228lbs) Vs Mike Weaver (205lbs).

Rocky Marciano (183lbs) Vs Sonny Liston (219lbs).

Ken Norton (214lbs) Vs Sultan Ibragimov (221lbs).

The results for Group 2 - stage 1.

Sam Peter UD 12 Primo Carnera.

Two big men, trading jabs for the early stages. Peters hard
combinations sent Carnera down. The Italian was able to get
back up, but never really got back into the fight. Alot of clinching
and some more knock downs for Peter.

Jimmy Ellis UD 12 Max Baer.

Ellis came out hard and fast looking to knock Baer out, his speed
and accuracy was impressive. He was able to knock Baer down
at the end of the first. The pace evened out after the second
with both guys exchanging at range, it was Ellis however with
straight, and fast jabs and right leads that was able to break the
timing of Baer who seemed to be just that bit short with his power
shots. A good fight, but it was clear come the end that Ellis was
the superior fighter.

John Tate UD 12 Leon Spinks.

Spinks looked suprisingly sharp and accurate with his shots, getting
past the jab and rangey blows of Tate. Early on it seemed that Spinks
was going to dominate. It was in the 6th that things turned around
convincingly, Tate dropping Spinks with a hand grenade of a right
hand. From then on, Tate seemed to slowly take control with Spinks
backing up, clearly wary of Tates power. A good and fun fight to watch
both men game and showing good heart.

Ezzard Charles TKO 8 Georges Carpentier.

It was clear from early on that Charles was every much the better
and stronger man. Both men went to the clinch early, working well at
this range. Charles breaking and landing short and sharp combinations.
Cappentier delivering powerfully compact uppercuts from the clinch
all to often, even wobbling Charles at one stage in the 3rd.
A right hand lead thrown on the outside by Charles dropped Carpentier
in the 5th, who was back up and firing back within seconds.
The Frenchman was game, but by the time of the stoppage at the
8th, he was clearly a beaten and battered man. Charles looked good
and in superb shape.

Joe Louis KO 4 Joe Hipp.

Louis was all over Hipp at nearly every stage of the fight, his jab and
body attacks nullifying the south paw leads from Hipp, who seemed
to struggle to throw a combination without himself eating hard leather
from Louis. The 3rd round saw a right hand smash into the jaw of Hipp
who fell back dramatically into the ropes. He recovered, managing to
last the round. Louis was in hunter-killer mode in the next round
dropping Hipp with a perfect hard jab to the jaw, right hand to the body
and concious separating left hook to Hipp's jaw.

Michael Moorer TKO 9 Oleg Maskaev.

Maskaev looked good early on, beating Moorer to the punch and even
dropping Moorer with flush shot. Moorer recovered well and got himself
back into the fight. Round 5 on, it seemed to be Moorer who was able
to land sharp, clean punches that found the mark perfectly. A crisp
combination on the 9th put Maskaev down, he was back to his feet but
clearly standing on instinct...the ref doing the right thing.

Hasim Rahman UD 12 George Godfrey.

This was a slow, and some what uneventful fight. Neither man really
risking a great deal. Rahman landing big hard shots occasionally while
Godfrey crashed in and clinched. Godfrey looking to throw a wide
hoop and grasp on, or jab and hold his man. The fight made it to the
distance, but never seemed to get stared. Rahman with his power
shots and combinations was clearly the more aggressive.

Mike Weaver KO 1 Ed Smith.

Weaver was all over Smith, a combination of hard hooks blasting Smith
into the ropes. Smith was down and clearly out.

Sultan Ibragimov KO 11 Bruce Seldon.

Seldon looked like a million dollars, fast, in and out, hard to hit and hard
hitting. The first round it seemed that the fight was going to be all his
and over soon. The second round was much the same with Sultan looking
slow and being dominated by a compact war machine in Seldon. But by
the 4th round, Seldon just seemed to have hit a wall. The man that looked
so impressive transformed into something average. Sultan's consistency
began to take its toll, his clean punches and counters landing well.
Seldon by the 10th walking flat footed crashed down after a series of
Sultan's blasting shots. Seldon survived but was down again from an
uppercut, exhaustion, a lack of desire of genuinely being out of it...
we shall never know, but Seldon just sat resting on his gloves as the
ref counted him out.

Rocky Marciano KO 5 Jem Mace.

Marciano was a mobile terror machine as Mace did his best to stop the
Rock with his crude and wide shots. Mace was down in the 1st round
from a sudden left hook. He was back up but the round was over.
The next few rounds saw Marciano stalking Mace, slamming him across
the ring, breaking him down and hurting every where his fists visited on
Mace's body. A right hand followed with a left hook-elbow dropped Mace
at the start of the 5th round. Marciano standing over his man starring
at the helpless Mace. Mace was out of it, clearly over matched.

Ken Norton UD 12 Ed Martin.

Martin did everything he could to avoid Norton, after the first few flurries
Norton's power was too much for Martin. Following Martin around and
landing often Norton was in clear control. Norton looked strong, even though
Martin towered over him and did his best to hold on and keep him at bay
from a distance. Norton's cross defence was enough to catch most of Martin's
blows all being followed by a hard counter from Norton.

Sonny Liston KO 4 Arthur Pelkley.

Watching this fight, what summed things up to me was when Pelkley landed a
right hand flush on Liston, who took it and kept walking forwards. From then
on Pelkley did his best to hold on, fight back and survive as hard long range
jabs, short crisp left hookd and a right had from Liston broke Pelkley down.
A left hook from Liston sent Pelkley down for the count. Liston looked supreme
in this fight and completely dominant.

Fight of the series...suprisingly John Tate - Leon Spinks.

Most impressive fighter - Ezzard Charles and Sonny Liston, both these guys looked
in top shape and sharp.

Thanks for the results Kym!

Sadly, though, I have to echo the sentiments of Murray Woroner, 42 years ago, 'All we've done is caused more arguments!'

No worries HH. These are the results as they come in...

Robinson wrote:The results for Group 2 - stage 1.

Sam Peter UD 12 Primo Carnera.

Two big men, trading jabs for the early stages. Peters hard
combinations sent Carnera down. The Italian was able to get
back up, but never really got back into the fight. Alot of clinching
and some more knock downs for Peter.

Jimmy Ellis UD 12 Max Baer.

Ellis came out hard and fast looking to knock Baer out, his speed
and accuracy was impressive. He was able to knock Baer down
at the end of the first. The pace evened out after the second
with both guys exchanging at range, it was Ellis however with
straight, and fast jabs and right leads that was able to break the
timing of Baer who seemed to be just that bit short with his power
shots. A good fight, but it was clear come the end that Ellis was
the superior fighter.

Michael Moorer TKO 9 Oleg Maskaev.

Maskaev looked good early on, beating Moorer to the punch and even
dropping Moorer with flush shot. Moorer recovered well and got himself
back into the fight. Round 5 on, it seemed to be Moorer who was able
to land sharp, clean punches that found the mark perfectly. A crisp
combination on the 9th put Maskaev down, he was back to his feet but
clearly standing on instinct...the ref doing the right thing.

- Some notes for you to pass on to "Hal."

Peter throwing combinations, who knew? Now, that's some funny imagery. Did he throw them whilst breakdancing in a tutu?

Well, no wonder Primo lost. He was too busy busting his own gut up with peals of laughter.

As to Ellis knocking Baer down, please, like Ali used to do, Baer did first, that is fake every KD of his career. He was the first clown prince of the ring after all. Alas, Ali gets all the credit and Maxie Slapstick gets no love by the Jamie Foxx gen responsible for building "Hal."

As to Double M KOing Big O, well, Double M has no such history save the Botha fight, whereas Big O KOed Rahman twice, a vastly superior fighter to Botha in most aspects, but MM KO O makes most excellent code, wouldn't you say so, Hal?

As to Louis/Rocky/Liston results, I'd imagine it'd be a better fight between themselves as they divvy up a full minutes worth of time it would take for each to walk through Hipp, Mace, and Pelkey. Joe 30 sec, Rocky 19 sec, and Liston 11 sec, don't you think Hal?

Or do you think, perhaps being therefore you ain't?

Well, now, it's all good sport and good fun now ain't it?

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:

Robinson wrote:The results for Group 2 - stage 1.

Sam Peter UD 12 Primo Carnera.

Two big men, trading jabs for the early stages. Peters hard
combinations sent Carnera down. The Italian was able to get
back up, but never really got back into the fight. Alot of clinching
and some more knock downs for Peter.

Jimmy Ellis UD 12 Max Baer.

Ellis came out hard and fast looking to knock Baer out, his speed
and accuracy was impressive. He was able to knock Baer down
at the end of the first. The pace evened out after the second
with both guys exchanging at range, it was Ellis however with
straight, and fast jabs and right leads that was able to break the
timing of Baer who seemed to be just that bit short with his power
shots. A good fight, but it was clear come the end that Ellis was
the superior fighter.

Michael Moorer TKO 9 Oleg Maskaev.

Maskaev looked good early on, beating Moorer to the punch and even
dropping Moorer with flush shot. Moorer recovered well and got himself
back into the fight. Round 5 on, it seemed to be Moorer who was able
to land sharp, clean punches that found the mark perfectly. A crisp
combination on the 9th put Maskaev down, he was back to his feet but
clearly standing on instinct...the ref doing the right thing.

- Some notes for you to pass on to "Hal."

Peter throwing combinations, who knew? Now, that's some funny imagery. Did he throw them whilst breakdancing in a tutu?

Well, no wonder Primo lost. He was too busy busting his own gut up with peals of laughter.

As to Ellis knocking Baer down, please, like Ali used to do, Baer did first, that is fake every KD of his career. He was the first clown prince of the ring after all. Alas, Ali gets all the credit and Maxie Slapstick gets no love by the Jamie Foxx gen responsible for building "Hal."

As to Double M KOing Big O, well, Double M has no such history save the Botha fight, whereas Big O KOed Rahman twice, a vastly superior fighter to Botha in most aspects, but MM KO O makes most excellent code, wouldn't you say so, Hal?

As to Louis/Rocky/Liston results, I'd imagine it'd be a better fight between themselves as they divvy up a full minutes worth of time it would take for each to walk through Hipp, Mace, and Pelkey. Joe 30 sec, Rocky 19 sec, and Liston 11 sec, don't you think Hal?

Or do you think, perhaps being therefore you ain't?

Well, now, it's all good sport and good fun now ain't it?

And because Boxing is simply a numbers game where fighters perform the
same and with such efficiency every time. I always assumed that what
made boxing and combat sports exciting is the fact that one never truely
knows what is going to happen.

But thanks for your feed back BRR. I am only reporting the results. Not
making them.

Bring on group number three!

Good fights in Group 3 mate.

I reckon so! Cant wait to see what will come down this go around.