Will you be subscribing to allegedly?

[Horse]

Do you really think Chisora would be on that show if it wasn't on Allegedly channel?

Yes, why not?

[gobbles]

Do you really think Chisora would be on that show if it wasn't on Allegedly channel?

Yes, why not?

Because the whole point of him being on that is to create a British angle to a big fight on their first weekend after charging

[Horse]

Do you really think Chisora would be on that show if it wasn't on Allegedly channel?

Yes, why not?

Because the whole point of him being on that is to create a British angle to a big fight on their first weekend after charging

But he is not on their schedule. Why are they not advertising his fight?

[gobbles]

Yes, why not?

Because the whole point of him being on that is to create a British angle to a big fight on their first weekend after charging

But he is not on their schedule. Why are they not advertising his fight?

It probably just hasn't been updated since the fight was confirmed. It was only confirmed this week.

[earsjohn]

Because the whole point of him being on that is to create a British angle to a big fight on their first weekend after charging

But he is not on their schedule. Why are they not advertising his fight?

It probably just hasn't been updated since the fight was confirmed. It was only confirmed this week.

It was advertised on the Bunce show so it should be on. Also noticed, via my EPG, that Canelo v Cintron and the Broner fight this Saturday are on. For free. Unless you are a Virgin, in which case you get nowt. No more online streaming until subscription period starts either.

[leforge]

But he is not on their schedule. Why are they not advertising his fight?

It probably just hasn't been updated since the fight was confirmed. It was only confirmed this week.

It was advertised on the Bunce show so it should be on. Also noticed, via my EPG, that Canelo v Cintron and the Broner fight this Saturday are on. For free. Unless you are a Virgin, in which case you get nowt. No more online streaming until subscription period starts either.

That will be watched by hardly anyone. Really think this channel going to struggle getting the subscribers.Lee purdy v Colin lynes fight got less than 100000 viewers.

[earsjohn]

It probably just hasn't been updated since the fight was confirmed. It was only confirmed this week.

It was advertised on the Bunce show so it should be on. Also noticed, via my EPG, that Canelo v Cintron and the Broner fight this Saturday are on. For free. Unless you are a Virgin, in which case you get nowt. No more online streaming until subscription period starts either.

That will be watched by hardly anyone. Really think this channel going to struggle getting the subscribers.Lee purdy v Colin lynes fight got less than 100000 viewers.

To be fair that was a wednesday night, but if they even get 10k I'd be surprised. At least with some of the alternatives quoted (Premier, Setanta, ESPN) they offered more than boxing, thus widening their potential audience.

[earsjohn]

Dont know who they trying to fool by making fights like this! This is not going tondo degale any favours or will paying customers like a night of mismatches!

It might encourage others to subscribe, but it has put me off.

I want the best in Britain to fight. I don't want some new WBU vs British title like situation, were half of the best British guys go down a different path to the rest, to start again.

Think that could happen. The wbo inter belts then defend wbo world title in house could happen. Ormond fighting for lightweight wbo inter title in his next fight!

Can't see any alternative. FWP fighters have rarely fought on other promoters cards in recent years, so unless FWP win the purse bids for any UK title fights that are made involving his fighters, there are surely going to be pull outs? And if he does win the bids, that will cost a lot of money, which its arguable that he'll have with the losses likely to be made by BN.

[earsjohn]

No idea. Degale is fight is pointless for main fight.

I would prefer DeGale fought someone like Paul David rather than the guy he is scheduled to fight. David is higher ranked in the BoxRec rankings.

To be fair, these are keep busy fights for both Degale and Groves. I think their relative high profile has distracted from the fact that they are still at the novice stage of their careers. Groves last 4 fights were Anderson, Allotey, Degale and Smith - that's a pretty high quality run for someone 14 fights in. Similarly Degale has gone Smith, Kobal, Groves, Wilczewski after 12 fights.

Guerrero is a bit of a no mark with 4 fights since a 5 year lay off, but as a marking time fight it's no worse than some we've seen. Who promotes Paul David?

[leforge]

No idea. Degale is fight is pointless for main fight.

I would prefer DeGale fought someone like Paul David rather than the guy he is scheduled to fight. David is higher ranked in the BoxRec rankings.

To be fair, these are keep busy fights for both Degale and Groves. I think their relative high profile has distracted from the fact that they are still at the novice stage of their careers. Groves last 4 fights were Anderson, Allotey, Degale and Smith - that's a pretty high quality run for someone 14 fights in. Similarly Degale has gone Smith, Kobal, Groves, Wilczewski after 12 fights.

Guerrero is a bit of a no mark with 4 fights since a 5 year lay off, but as a marking time fight it's no worse than some we've seen. Who promotes Paul David?

keep busy fights as a support bout but not as bill headliners. Be interesting to see the crowd for this.

[earsjohn]

I would prefer DeGale fought someone like Paul David rather than the guy he is scheduled to fight. David is higher ranked in the BoxRec rankings.

To be fair, these are keep busy fights for both Degale and Groves. I think their relative high profile has distracted from the fact that they are still at the novice stage of their careers. Groves last 4 fights were Anderson, Allotey, Degale and Smith - that's a pretty high quality run for someone 14 fights in. Similarly Degale has gone Smith, Kobal, Groves, Wilczewski after 12 fights.

Guerrero is a bit of a no mark with 4 fights since a 5 year lay off, but as a marking time fight it's no worse than some we've seen. Who promotes Paul David?

keep busy fights as a support bout but not as bill headliners. Be interesting to see the crowd for this.

Agreed. But with a limited stable of fighters attempting to support an entire TV channel there will have to be sacrifices - either the fighters fight regularly but in less demanding fights or there are less regular cards and the "2 shows a week" intention/promise is not achieved.

I think one thing is for certain, where possible, the biggest fights will be FWP v FWP. For all the talk of Shumenov and Hopkins, if Cleverly doesn't fight Maccarinelli in 2012, I'm a dutchman. Same with Burns, although he will fight Kev Mitchell, which is actually a really good fight.

[Glyn Leach]

fighters have rarely fought on other promoters cards in recent years, so unless FWP win the purse bids for any UK title fights that are made involving his fighters, there are surely going to be pull outs? And if he does win the bids, that will cost a lot of money, which its arguable that he'll have with the losses likely to be made by BN.

Needs pointing out that other promoters are reluctant to let their fighters appear on his cards also, see Purdy-Vassell II, but I'm not getting into chicken and egg, they're all as bad as each other on that level IMO

[leforge]

fighters have rarely fought on other promoters cards in recent years, so unless FWP win the purse bids for any UK title fights that are made involving his fighters, there are surely going to be pull outs? And if he does win the bids, that will cost a lot of money, which its arguable that he'll have with the losses likely to be made by BN.

Needs pointing out that other promoters are reluctant to let their fighters appear on his cards also, see Purdy-Vassell II, but I'm not getting into chicken and egg, they're all as bad as each other on that level IMO

Which is not good sign!

[earsjohn]

fighters have rarely fought on other promoters cards in recent years, so unless FWP win the purse bids for any UK title fights that are made involving his fighters, there are surely going to be pull outs? And if he does win the bids, that will cost a lot of money, which its arguable that he'll have with the losses likely to be made by BN.

Needs pointing out that other promoters are reluctant to let their fighters appear on his cards also, see Purdy-Vassell II, but I'm not getting into chicken and egg, they're all as bad as each other on that level IMO

Fair point, and not my intention to single out one promoter when all are guilty. I do fear that UK boxing is heading down the same route as US when there was a strong Showtime / HBO divide, but at the domestic level it could be disastrous for the sport.

[Glyn Leach]

fighters have rarely fought on other promoters cards in recent years, so unless FWP win the purse bids for any UK title fights that are made involving his fighters, there are surely going to be pull outs? And if he does win the bids, that will cost a lot of money, which its arguable that he'll have with the losses likely to be made by BN.

Needs pointing out that other promoters are reluctant to let their fighters appear on his cards also, see Purdy-Vassell II, but I'm not getting into chicken and egg, they're all as bad as each other on that level IMO

Which is not good sign!

Indeed not, potentially dreadful sign, last thing we need is a return to the Intercrap era, which is where that stance would inevitably lead to

[leforge]

Needs pointing out that other promoters are reluctant to let their fighters appear on his cards also, see Purdy-Vassell II, but I'm not getting into chicken and egg, they're all as bad as each other on that level IMO

Which is not good sign!

Indeed not, potentially dreadful sign, last thing we need is a return to the Intercrap era, which is where that stance would inevitably lead to

Return to inter crap its back already! Degale WBo inter defence, Ormond WBO inter defence. Brook had WBA inter defence all be it against a fighter in ring top 10. Gavin was meant to fight for WBO inter belt before he pulled out!

[Jeff Thomas]

How does the petition to wind up FWP affect the channel - anyone?

[leforge]

How does the petition to wind up FWP affect the channel - anyone?

FWP is not a shareholder it FW personally I would think but the details of allegedly are not updated at companies house.

[Jeff Thomas]

I watched Benn Vs Eubank yesterday... what the hell happened to UK boxing?

[leforge]

I watched Benn Vs Eubank yesterday... what the hell happened to UK boxing?

Promotors, Sky fell out of love with it.

[earsjohn]

How does the petition to wind up FWP affect the channel - anyone?

FWP is not a shareholder it FW personally I would think but the details of Allegedly Channel are not updated at companies house.

But if FWP no longer exists, it can't have any fighters. Would former FWP fighters be expected / contracted to fight on BN? Will they be transferred to an alternative promotional group en masse? Will they be free to choose new promoters and thus, alternative TV contracts?

allegedly is a joint venture between Warren, Boxing Media Channel Ltd (a vehicle run by sports agent, Aaron Lincoln, former agent of John Terry) and Zoom Communications, a Canadian production group who have broadcast international Chuckwagon racing as part of their recent output. Not sure which of these will have funded the losses the channel is likely to have made in its first 2 months of operations.

[leforge]

How does the FWP wind up affect the channel - anyone?

FWP is not a shareholder it FW personally I would think but the details of Allegedly Channel are not updated at companies house.

But if FWP no longer exists, it can't have any fighters. Would former FWP fighters be expected / contracted to fight on BN? Will they be transferred to an alternative promotional group en masse? Will they be free to choose new promoters and thus, alternative TV contracts?

Allegedly channel is a joint venture between Warren, Boxing Media Channel Ltd (a vehicle run by sports agent, Aaron Lincoln, former agent of John Terry) and Zoom Communications, a Canadian production group who have broadcast international Chuckwagon racing as part of their recent output. Not sure which of these will have funded the losses the channel is likely to have made in its first 2 months of operations.

Don't how long they will be able to continue to fund the losses either. The channel will be paying the promotor a fee like sky do! I remember promotors moaning the fee was not enough! The company is still trading.

[deadpan]

Their website (which increasingly looks like an IT students GCSE project) doesn't offer much by way of info.

Doe it broadcast every day? What time does it start? Do they show repeats of recent bills and classic fights?

Apologies for my ignorance but I'm on Virgin so haven't had chance to have a gander but am considering the 6 month subscription.

Many thanks in advance.

[leforge]

Their website (which increasingly looks like an IT students GCSE project) doesn't offer much by way of info.

Doe it broadcast every day? What time does it start? Do they show repeats of recent bills and classic fights?

Apologies for my ignorance but I'm on Virgin so haven't had chance to have a gander but am considering the 6 month subscription.

Many thanks in advance.

If you on Virgin you be able to pay month by month through them!

[deadpan]

Cheers, I didn't know that.