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Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:07
by lefty
im surprised trout is so downbeat in losing. I definietly dont think he lost in the manner he seems to think he did.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:07
by NazNaci1
The right guy won, in my opinion but it was close1 or 2 rounds in it. Obviously the judges will go for Canelo big. Trout had to make a statement and though he made it close, to say he won by 4-5 rounds is pretty wide off the mark. He lost, not by much but he lost (As Trout basically said himself).

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:07
by diddy
Floyd will box Canelo's balls off. And not have to worry about crooked judging.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:07
by EduardosFist
Easy work for Canelo. He only got hit cuz he didn't even know he was getting hit. Trout is weak puncher.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:07
by diddy
Trout is classy. Very Ward-like.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:08
by FloydtheDuck
"HE SHOCKED US" 'THE BETTER MAN WON"

that's from Trout.

either we have lots of Canelo haters, or people influenced by Showtime..

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:08
by Cloutov
Ya i can see it but the fact is he did not land nothing!! He was active and won some round because of it but if I rewatch the fight i am pretty sure i ll got it for Canelo maybe easier than the first time but surely not for Trout. He DID NOT LAND NOTHING!!

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:09
by Baby Face Finster
I hope no one comes on the site and screams robbery. This fight was extremely close.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:09
by FloydtheDuck
Sorry, Canelo showed some great defense, he was slipping stuff, i guarantee trout's camp didnt know he could.

He could have taken Trouts power, but he wasnt even letting Trout land.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:09
by world ranked
diddy wrote:Floyd will box Canelo's balls off. And not have to worry about crooked judging.
I'm not sure. I think their grooming him to beat an old Mayweather in with the new and out with the old.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:10
by ReggieDiggs
Cloutov wrote:118-109 is way over but maybe he didn t fall into Trout s game : i ll sennd a thousand punches don t mind if they land
Agree. I was shocked Saul made Austin miss so much. Landing more punches to the air don't win rounds. Still a close fight, but I was more impressed with Saul's landed punches vs Austin's landed punches. Ultimately on my card the knockdown won the fight for Saul.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:11
by Horse
Alvarez's workrate was poor in that fight.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:12
by lefty
I think Alvarez is a good fighter but I was never completely sold on Trout. Even after he beat Cotto I still didnt think he was anything special.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:12
by sucracristo
lankester wrote: a judge giving 118 is corrupt
i had canelo up 116-111 and i can't see all the scores for trout on here at all

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:12
by ReggieDiggs
Baby Face Finster wrote:I hope no one comes on the site and screams robbery. This fight was extremely close.
That ain't happening. Saul is far too hated for that.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:13
by world ranked
This is what so subjective about scoring there's ppl saying no way trout won and
there's saying trout outpointed him

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:20
by Rover
crusader wrote:
Cloutov wrote::TU:
Emil wrote:Canelo showed he is a better boxer. Can't see how everyone had it for trout, except for the usual bias.
You had it 115-114 (meaning you scored at least one even round) and you don't see how anyone could score it for Trout?
Likely 2 even rounds with the KD round mixed in.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:23
by CheckHook
I had it for Trout, 115-112...

Thought he controlled the fight for the most part and dictated how Canelo fought.... Outside of the KD Canelo landed hardest and cleanest when he was countering off the ropes with Trout trying to apply too much pressure, rest of the time Canelo looked kinda confusd on the outside winging wild right hands. Even when Canelo put him down and Trouts legs looked like rubber, Canelo didn't have the ability to step on it and put him away, and Trout came back and took round 8 straight after the KD. Usually when you see a clean knockdown in a close fight you'd expect to see a momentum change, but that just didn't happen.

Obviously closer than I thought since so many had it for Canelo and some had it wide for him, so I'll give it a rewatch tomorrow. Decent fight, shame Trout doesn't have more of a dig.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:40
by ReggieDiggs
world ranked wrote:This is what so subjective about scoring there's ppl saying no way trout won and
there's saying trout outpointed him
I don't see many people saying "no way". It was a close fight. Most of the scores listed are close.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 00:45
by gilgamesh
ReggieDiggs wrote:
world ranked wrote:This is what so subjective about scoring there's ppl saying no way trout won and
there's saying trout outpointed him
I don't see many people saying "no way". It was a close fight. Most of the scores listed are close.
It was definitely a close fight, 116-111 is off the mark though and 118-109 is f**king disgraceful. 115-112 is a bit easier to swallow, although it should've at the very least been a split decision in my view. Trout fought a good fight. It wasn't quite robbery, but it definitely felt like just as many expected, Trout wasn't walking away with a victory with anything less than a KO.

I had 115-112 Trout, I definitely thought he fought a good fight. There were several close rounds, the crowd was going absolutely nuts for everything Canelo did...I mean, it's not like we didn't see it coming even months ago.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 01:03
by Cloutov
ReggieDiggs wrote:
Cloutov wrote:118-109 is way over but maybe he didn t fall into Trout s game : i ll sennd a thousand punches don t mind if they land
Agree. I was shocked Saul made Austin miss so much. Landing more punches to the air don't win rounds. Still a close fight, but I was more impressed with Saul's landed punches vs Austin's landed punches. Ultimately on my card the knockdown won the fight for Saul.
:TU:

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 01:16
by Blodhemn
Is it anymore clear than tonight that open scoring needs to get bombed by a terrorist?

It made both fighters fight like crap and hurt Trout more. :doh:

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 02:48
by crusader
After checking my card I realized my score was 114-114 instead of 114-113 Trout like I originally posted.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 07:31
by sucracristo
Blodhemn wrote:Is it anymore clear than tonight that open scoring needs to get bombed by a terrorist?

It made both fighters fight like crap and hurt Trout more. :doh:
what specifically did open scoring do to make them fight like crap
and what specifically do you mean by fighting like crap?
alvarez came forward and threw hard punches and landed lots of them.
he also deliberately moved his head on the inside and stepped away from lots
of trouts punches. i don't see that as fighting like crap. that is how they're supposed
to fight. trout missed a lot and threw meaningless jabs and occasional combo
that was blocked. very few meaningful scoring blows for trout. if he was able to
land clean hard shots he would have. he didn't because he couldn't.
open scoring had absolutely nothing to do with it. zero. if anything, it
would have lit a fire under trout to hit alvarez with meaningful punches.
open scoring had no effect on this fight at all until maybe the last round
when it looked to me alvarez thought he had it won, but still threw a few
hard parting shots.

Re: Canelo/Trout and undercard RBR.

Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 08:39
by Blodhemn
Canelo throwing 6 punches per round 'cos he knew Christodoulou wouldn't score against him. Trout coming out during the middle rounds to the end with a dejected look on his face, knowing he's getting the shaft in broad daylight and being unable to do anything about it. Not sure Trout would've done any better without open scoring but the dynamics might've been different. I've been a backer of Canelo all along, he's a good fighter, you can easily see it, but if his punch output doesn't improve, he's only going to be exciting to Golden Boy and hispanic fans - that fight just wasn't worth watching.