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palooka wrote:

columbo wrote:Kathy Duva....... Wouldja?

you would throw your teddy outta bed for her

Haha you prick

Cleverly had a reasonable opening couple. Ideally he'd have been landing the jab more but he was boxing well overall.

I don't see a disgrace in Cleverly coming out for the 4th in a world title fight.

braehmer does seem to be the top contender. but he didn't rush to fight cleverly, whom I think would've mauled him to a late stoppage defeat.

reckon if braehmer wants this fight, it's his. I don't think he'll fancy it. but i'm more than happy to see kovalev stay busy, fight his top contender, of take on someone like fonfara.

No I wasn't; Nathan looked to be dealing with things in the first 2 rounds, moving, slipping throwing punches and moving Kovalev back. He came apart suddenly, he got caught hard and never really recovered, though he tried. He didn't throw a punch in the 4th round and was lucky to get through 3.

I guess we have different ideas of what constitutes looking good. Clev was getting off second best in each of the rounds and he looked very uncomfortable to me.

ThereByTheGrace wrote:
C'mon mate, O'Connor dragged Clev to his corner, looked around waving his hands around like an idiot and then ran to the Soviet corner and told them the fight was still on!!

Kudos 100% to Kovalev, what a puncher he is and he made a big statement, so big that the ref became the cornerman for the opponent!!!

I think he was stepping in because he knew clev was about to go if he took much more so didnt want him to get hit with anything after the bell. He couldnt give him a standing 8 count and by stepping in he knocked a dazzed and confused cleverly off balance so had to hold him up - i dont think O'Connor did a lot wrong there he didnt really have much choice.

Kovalev made a fan out of me tonight, most of us said clev was likely to get ko'd im not sure this shows that kovalev is amazing though i just think it showed that clev is really european level.

Finn wrote:

ThereByTheGrace wrote:
C'mon mate, O'Connor dragged Clev to his corner, looked around waving his hands around like an idiot and then ran to the Soviet corner and told them the fight was still on!!

Kudos 100% to Kovalev, what a puncher he is and he made a big statement, so big that the ref became the cornerman for the opponent!!!

I think he was stepping in because he knew clev was about to go if he took much more so didnt want him to get hit with anything after the bell. He couldnt give him a standing 8 count and by stepping in he knocked a dazzed and confused cleverly off balance so had to hold him up - i dont think O'Connor did a lot wrong there he didnt really have much choice.

Kovalev made a fan out of me tonight, most of us said clev was likely to get ko'd im not sure this shows that kovalev is amazing though i just think it showed that clev is really european level.

I fancied Cleverly tonight but I got a weird feeling just before it started that it was going to be Kovalev's night.

Cleverly was not at the races. I was a little surprised at how weak he appeared after going down, he looked spent and possibly weight drained? Dont know much about him though so cant say, just an observation.

On the other hand Kovalev hits like a mule with every punch, the shots Cleverly was blocking were likely having more of an effect than they appeared to be.

Terrible match making

ThereByTheGrace wrote:

expe wrote:

ThereByTheGrace wrote:
The fight should have been stopped in round 3, and it was. Only the ref overruled his own decision. Inept, corrupt and a bloody joke.

Inept yes, in his defence he was about to step in, then the bell went.

C'mon mate, O'Connor dragged Clev to his corner, looked around waving his hands around like an idiot and then ran to the Soviet corner and told them the fight was still on!!

Kudos 100% to Kovalev, what a puncher he is and he made a big statement, so big that the ref became the cornerman for the opponent!!!

He did fvck up a bit, but if you're going to let a fight go too long, then once the bell goes is the best time, at least then the fighter has the minute to recover and if he's not right the corner can pull him out. Cleverly clearly wasn't right and the corner should have pulled him out.

crusader wrote:

No I wasn't; Nathan looked to be dealing with things in the first 2 rounds, moving, slipping throwing punches and moving Kovalev back. He came apart suddenly, he got caught hard and never really recovered, though he tried. He didn't throw a punch in the 4th round and was lucky to get through 3.

I guess we have different ideas of what constitutes looking good. Clev was getting off second best in each of the rounds and he looked very uncomfortable to me.

He looked to be boxing to a plan and didn't seem to be really troubled by anything; no one really expected Nathan to win the first 3 rounds and expected him to get a pounding. He didn't get a pounding but was really undone with one sht that didn't look that great, he didn't recover from it. Do you think he lost the rounds badly? was he under massive pressure, did he take big punches? Was he cut or wobbled? He was still boxing to his plan when he got undone.

mcato wrote:Terrible match making

Maybe not. Sink or swim time, the promoter didn't look too gutted

Got A Feeling Carl Froch Will Put Himself Forward If He Beats Groves.HBO Will Pay Big Money And Force That Fight Through On American Soil. That Would Be A Good Fight.Not Much Happening At Super Middle Weight.Unless Golovkin Moves Up.

I thought he was outboxed and clearly lost each round. He didn't look horrible and he wasn't getting battered at those points, but you claimed that he looked GOOD, not just that he didn't look bad.

Conversely, all you had to say about Kovalev was that he was cut!

Agreed palooka.

Kilburn wrote:Agreed palooka.

I just don't see how that constitutes looking good rather than ok or not bad..

crusader wrote:

Kilburn wrote:Agreed palooka.

I just don't see how that constitutes looking good rather than ok or not bad..

I think it's a case of Cleverly looking as good as he could have been expected to.

mcato wrote:Terrible match making

VVarren can't win, he puts Cleverly in with fighters he'll beat and gets slated, then he puts him in the fight everyone wants to see and gets slated.

mcato wrote:Terrible match making

Your everything wrong about the sport!!
World champions take on deservant challengers not mediocre bums or would you rather see clev more padded out!!

I like cleverley & he can fight & will be back

freddydoesdallas wrote:

mcato wrote:Terrible match making

Maybe not. Sink or swim time, the promoter didn't look too gutted

Maybe he has planned a quick route back with a commonweath shot next up ........

crusader wrote:

Kilburn wrote:Agreed palooka.

I just don't see how that constitutes looking good rather than ok or not bad..

I thought Cleverly looked gunshy! He was fighting at the perfect range for Kovalev aswell where he can land his bombs! He needed to either be completely on the backfoot or on his chest 'phonebooth' style so Kovalev couldnt get leverage but he did neither.

hurlock wrote:

mcato wrote:Terrible match making

Your everything wrong about the sport!!
World champions take on deservant challengers not mediocre bums or would you rather see clev more padded out!!

I like cleverley & he can fight & will be back

Mcato is everything wrong with the sport?

What a bastard!

crusader wrote:

Kilburn wrote:Agreed palooka.

I just don't see how that constitutes looking good rather than ok or not bad..

depends what you compare it to he looked fornicating awesome in rounds 1 and 2 compared to rounds 3 and 4

expe wrote:

mcato wrote:Terrible match making

VVarren can't win, he puts Cleverly in with fighters he'll beat and gets slated, then he puts him in the fight everyone wants to see and gets slated.

X2 ..... some people hate Warren and no matter what he does he cant win in that department.

crusader wrote:I thought he was outboxed and clearly lost each round. He didn't look horrible and he wasn't getting battered at those points, but you claimed that he looked GOOD, not just that he didn't look bad.

Conversely, all you had to say about Kovalev was that he was cut!

Just about every one felt that the first 3 rounds would be terribly dangerous for Nathan. He came out and met Sergey and coped well the first round; he wasn't hurt, hit hard and kept busy while maintaining a presence - he threw back and was more than a nuisance. The same pretty much round 2; and Kovalev was cut. As the danger rounds were 1-3 and Nathan had got through OK and cut the fellow and held up then he was looking good. It's moot in any case as Nathan lost - he came apart when he was caught hard and didn't recover but he boxed well until then and looked good doing it.

Finn wrote:

crusader wrote:

Kilburn wrote:Agreed palooka.

I just don't see how that constitutes looking good rather than ok or not bad..

depends what you compare it to he looked effing awesome in rounds 1 and 2 compared to rounds 3 and 4

And when Kovalev gets his head knocked in eventually he'll not look the same as he id when he winning. Boxing is a brutal sport and sometimes the fans are more cruel than the boxers.