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Horse wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse.... it really surprises me that you're single. You make such logical arguments. Seriously mate, if I went to Mrs Hangover using 'Horse logic', she'd bin me on the spot.

I doubt the females that you go out with would interest me.

Keith's midget fancying isn't for everyone, I agree.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yes, so why wouldn't he just fight Fury, for a similarly huge payday, and in the (hugely) unlikely eventually he lost, make up another excuse?

I believe that Fury would beat Haye. I've stated this several times before, so I'm not just saying it now that Haye has pulled out.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Your logic is non-existent.

Are you saying Haye is mortally afraid of getting in the ring with Fury, but not bothered about taking on the best heavyweight in the world - or are you saying that Fury is actually better than Wlad?

Haye's marketability suffers less from losing to a Klitschko than losing to Fury.

Losing to Fury would embarrass Haye.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yes, so why wouldn't he just fight Fury, for a similarly huge payday, and in the (hugely) unlikely eventually he lost, make up another excuse?

I believe that Fury would beat Haye. I've stated this several times before, so I'm not just saying it now that Haye has pulled out.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Your logic is non-existent.

Are you saying Haye is mortally afraid of getting in the ring with Fury, but not bothered about taking on the best heavyweight in the world - or are you saying that Fury is actually better than Wlad?

Haye's marketability suffers less from losing to a Klitschko than losing to Fury.

Losing to Fury would embarrass Haye.

And the case rests!

L.C wrote:

Horse wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse.... it really surprises me that you're single. You make such logical arguments. Seriously mate, if I went to Mrs Hangover using 'Horse logic', she'd bin me on the spot.

I doubt the females that you go out with would interest me.

Keith's midget fancying isn't for everyone, I agree.

I can assure you that Mrs Hangover is 5' 9".

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yes, so why wouldn't he just fight Fury, for a similarly huge payday, and in the (hugely) unlikely eventually he lost, make up another excuse?

I believe that Fury would beat Haye. I've stated this several times before, so I'm not just saying it now that Haye has pulled out.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Your logic is non-existent.

Are you saying Haye is mortally afraid of getting in the ring with Fury, but not bothered about taking on the best heavyweight in the world - or are you saying that Fury is actually better than Wlad?

Haye's marketability suffers less from losing to a Klitschko than losing to Fury.

Losing to Fury would embarrass Haye.

Mate, Haye is a professional boxer - they confront the fear of losing and being embarassed every single time they enter the ring. The multi million pound paydays at top level make it worth it.

This is really some of the dumbest shit I've read since my pet Macac monkey got hold of my laptop.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mate, Haye is a professional boxer - they confront the fear of losing and being embarassed every single time they enter the ring. The multi million pound paydays at top level make it worth it.

This is really some of the dumbest poo I've read since my pet Macac monkey got hold of my laptop.

Haye's earned this distrust with his game playing before.

He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mate, Haye is a professional boxer - they confront the fear of losing and being embarassed every single time they enter the ring. The multi million pound paydays at top level make it worth it.

This is really some of the dumbest poo I've read since my pet Macac monkey got hold of my laptop.

Haye's earned this distrust with his game playing before.

He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Fair enough, but when the alternative is to believe he cut himself, or that they have hired a make-up artist to do the cut for him (I kid you not, it's in the CS) to avoid a fight with Tyson Fury there isn't much to give him the benefit for.

SNG wrote:Fair enough, but when the alternative is to believe he cut himself, or that they have hired a make-up artist to do the cut for him (I kid you not, it's in the CS) to avoid a fight with Tyson Fury there isn't much to give him the benefit for.

Would a normal fighter be suspected of playing such silly games?

Haye has made a fool of himself and he deserves the complete lack of respect that he is getting.

He is the least trustworthy fighter in the world.

Horse wrote:

SNG wrote:Fair enough, but when the alternative is to believe he cut himself, or that they have hired a make-up artist to do the cut for him (I kid you not, it's in the CS) to avoid a fight with Tyson Fury there isn't much to give him the benefit for.

Would a normal fighter be suspected of playing such silly games?

Haye has made a fool of himself and he deserves the complete lack of respect that he is getting.

He is the least trustworthy fighter in the world.

Fine, but do you actually believe that either of those two scenarios could possibly be real? It's absurd.

Horse wrote:He is the least trustworthy fighter in the world.

Horse, take this as a compliment, you are the second greatest troll on the whole world wide web.

This thread has turned retarded! On a separate note.... Mary, Mary quite contrary how does your garden grow?! *Palooka will know what I mean*

Aden wrote:

Horse wrote:He is the least trustworthy fighter in the world.

Horse, take this as a compliment, you are the second greatest troll on the whole world wide web.

Who's the first?

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mate, Haye is a professional boxer - they confront the fear of losing and being embarassed every single time they enter the ring. The multi million pound paydays at top level make it worth it.

This is really some of the dumbest poo I've read since my pet Macac monkey got hold of my laptop.

Haye's earned this distrust with his game playing before.

He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

So what are you going to say when the fight is rescheduled and goes ahead? What will your reasoning be then? He again changed his mind, and decided he wasn't scared of the big bad gypsy any more?

Fury has confirmed he wants the rescheduled fight - so it will most likely happen now anyway.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:So what are you going to say when the fight is rescheduled and goes ahead? What will your reasoning be then? He again changed his mind, and decided he wasn't scared of the big bad gypsy any more?

Maybe it gave him more time to prepare after an initially poor training camp.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Fury has confirmed he wants the rescheduled fight - so it will most likely happen now anyway.

Good. Fury is still going to smash Haye's head in.

I've just had someone try telling me that they're all in cahoots (Haye's team and Fury's) and 'cutgate' is a work to make the fight worth an extra few millions in PPV when it happens at the end of January. What next?

I heard a rumour that Haye is friends with a make up artist on Casualty.

Nah, I made that up.

I think one of the biggest smoke signals is Adam Booth deleting his twitter account immediately after the news broke.

This behaviour necessarily matches the behaviour profile of duplicity.

If you don't want to or cannot make a work or social engagement and you are forced into lying to placate the people you are letting down ... If you are not an adept and accomplished liar, comfortable with fielding multiple questions with further lies (which thankfully most people are not!) ... You leave the bare minimum of information normally via text, email or catching the person deliberately on voicemail ... And then become uncontactable, until the dust settles.

Booth deleting his Twitter account is not coincidence

The whole thing STINKS.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:So what are you going to say when the fight is rescheduled and goes ahead? What will your reasoning be then? He again changed his mind, and decided he wasn't scared of the big bad gypsy any more?

Maybe it gave him more time to prepare after an initially poor training camp.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Fury has confirmed he wants the rescheduled fight - so it will most likely happen now anyway.

Good. Fury is still going to smash Haye's head in.

Are you mentally ill?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Are you mentally ill?

Don't get nasty, James.

I'm pretty sure I won our debate about how good David Price was.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:causing scar tissue for later fights

Yes, scar tissue takes around a year to achieve 90% of its former strength. It continues to mature slowly for another year, hopefully achieving a final strength in the low-90s, but it's always a risk thereafter through loss of pliability. The standard recovery period for incisions (minus underlying complications) is six weeks for contact sports.

But given that the contact sport in question is heavyweight boxing, longer than that would be highly advisable. Christmas.

Chris Eubank advocated sparring as close to his fights as possible. Does anyone know how many days before them he stopped? (Benn was the opposite, and preferred to avoid heavy sparring because it was risky and not 'real'.)

Maxsplit wrote:I think one of the biggest smoke signals is Adam Booth deleting his twitter account immediately after the news broke.

This behaviour necessarily matches the behaviour profile of duplicity.

If you don't want to or cannot make a work or social engagement and you are forced into lying to placate the people you are letting down ... If you are not an adept and accomplished liar, comfortable with fielding multiple questions with further lies (which thankfully most people are not!) ... You leave the bare minimum of information normally via text, email or catching the person deliberately on voicemail ... And then become uncontactable, until the dust settles.

Booth deleting his Twitter account is not coincidence

The whole thing STINKS.

What a load of rubbish! He probably can't be bothered with all the trolls on there giving him abuse over something out of his hands ! Grow the fornicate up idiot

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Are you mentally ill?

Don't get nasty, James.

I'm pretty sure I won our debate about how good David Price was.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

What happens to all the bell ends who bought the tickets to sell on and rip off fellow boxing fans? Do the people who paid extortionate prices get their money back? Or will the touts get screwed over with booking fees and have to give full refund back to the buyers?

Wa1nuts wrote:What happens to all the bell ends who bought the tickets to sell on and rip off fellow boxing fans? Do the people who paid extortionate prices get their money back? Or will the touts get screwed over with booking fees and have to give full refund back to the buyers?

The touts will only get face value from the original booking. Secondary agents hold the cash until the event has taken place. They used to pay out as soon as the ticket had been sent out. Michael Jackson changed all that... The touts kept the money from the buyer and got their cards refunded from the original purchase.

Wa1nuts wrote:What happens to all the bell ends who bought the tickets to sell on and rip off fellow boxing fans? Do the people who paid extortionate prices get their money back? Or will the touts get screwed over with booking fees and have to give full refund back to the buyers?

Why do you (and a lot of other people) think people who buy and sell tickets are bell ends? I don't get it. Supply and demand.