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crusader wrote:I watched without sound....were they trying to sell Crolla as world class?

Just Fast Eddie being a promoter, the scoundrel!

He should've said "Yeah that was all right, but I reckon Marsili would do him, so he ain't even the best lightweight in Europe", obviously. 'Cos that's what boxing promoters do.

crusader wrote:I watched without sound....were they trying to sell Crolla as world class?

No.... just rightfully praised this performance and say he is maturing and not the fighter who fought Derry Matthews first time.

Watt is getting criticised, but Paul Smith had the fight level after 6 and still had the level at the time of stoppage. Moore had them level after 6 and just 1 round up at the time of the stoppage.

Oh - spoke to soon, Moore just called Crolla world class.

Datsue wrote:

crusader wrote:I watched without sound....were they trying to sell Crolla as world class?

Just Fast Eddie being a promoter, the scoundrel!

He should've said "Yeah that was all right, but I reckon Marsili would do him, so he ain't even the best lightweight in Europe", obviously. 'Cos that's what boxing promoters do.

wow moorsey mentioned the r word

Jamie Moore finally mentions the R word for the first time tonight....

what R word?

Final round wrote:what R word?

Redemption!

ShadrachSimmo wrote:

Final round wrote:what R word?

Redemption!

Autobarn wrote:
I think there'll be great 2 way action. I can't see crolla staying with murray head to head - he's far too strong - but if crolla boxes within himself, uses his lighter feet to get in and then out, and mix in the hard shot now and again...he can make his mark later on, get that extra time and space, and if things go his way, try to start backing murray up.

Worth bringing this up again, bang on!

Neil Gee wrote:

columbo wrote:Still not 100% sold on Crolla though at the world level. I think Mitchell and Burns would beat him.

He's a work in progress, columbo. I'm not sure whether we had this discussion b4 but I think he's a genuine late-developer and I certainly think he will beat Burns if it comes off. Maybe a fight with Burns would be good for Ant. No doubt he wants to jump in for a world title next fight but I think a fight with Burns first would be better for him.

No doubt he's improving, but unless Burns is completely shot he doesn't stand a chance. Crolla's best weapon is his jab, but Burn's jab is far better and Crolla isn't slick enough and doesn't hit hard enough to break Burns down. Too big, too strong and too good, world level vs domestic level. Crolla would be better off going in with Mitchell, Coyle or Marsili right now.

expe wrote:

Neil Gee wrote:

columbo wrote:Still not 100% sold on Crolla though at the world level. I think Mitchell and Burns would beat him.

He's a work in progress, columbo. I'm not sure whether we had this discussion b4 but I think he's a genuine late-developer and I certainly think he will beat Burns if it comes off. Maybe a fight with Burns would be good for Ant. No doubt he wants to jump in for a world title next fight but I think a fight with Burns first would be better for him.

No doubt he's improving, but unless Burns is completely shot he doesn't stand a chance. Crolla's best weapon is his jab, but Burn's jab is far better and Crolla isn't slick enough and doesn't hit hard enough to break Burns down. Too big, too strong and too good, world level vs domestic level. Crolla would be better off going in with Mitchell, Coyle or Marsili right now.

Do you think Crolla would beat Mitchell mate?

Yeh Crolla vs Mitchell next please.

Final round wrote:

ShadrachSimmo wrote:

Final round wrote:what R word?

Redemption!

Final round wrote:Yeh Crolla vs Mitchell next please.

I'd like to see that. I think they're being moved in different directions though. Mitchell fighting in a final eliminator for the IBF strap (Guy he's fighting looks pretty good aswell and is unbeaten although against shit opponents)

columbo wrote:

expe wrote:

Neil Gee wrote:
He's a work in progress, columbo. I'm not sure whether we had this discussion b4 but I think he's a genuine late-developer and I certainly think he will beat Burns if it comes off. Maybe a fight with Burns would be good for Ant. No doubt he wants to jump in for a world title next fight but I think a fight with Burns first would be better for him.

No doubt he's improving, but unless Burns is completely shot he doesn't stand a chance. Crolla's best weapon is his jab, but Burn's jab is far better and Crolla isn't slick enough and doesn't hit hard enough to break Burns down. Too big, too strong and too good, world level vs domestic level. Crolla would be better off going in with Mitchell, Coyle or Marsili right now.

Do you think Crolla would beat Mitchell mate?

Mitchell falls apart at world level, but below that he looks class. Mitchell would certainly be the favourite and I would back him to beat Crolla on points, at his best he's a really classy boxer, it takes something special to knock him out of that and I'm not sure Crolla possesses that, solid, compact fighter, good defensively with a bit of pop in his punches, but Mitchell does everything that Crolla does, only better, I wouldn't put it past him to end the fight inside the distance either.

I want Crolla vs Abril.

columbo wrote:

Final round wrote:Yeh Crolla vs Mitchell next please.

I'd like to see that. I think they're being moved in different directions though. Mitchell fighting in a final eliminator for the IBF strap (Guy he's fighting looks pretty good aswell and is unbeaten although against poo opponents)

Hearn's trying to move Burns, Mitchell, Crolla and Coyle towards world title fights, at some point at least one combination of those will have to fight each other. Burns is going down the WBC route, Mitchell the IBF, Crolla's fighting for WBO trinkets, but Top Rank seem to have big plans for Crawford and Anthony Crolla won't be one of them, Coyle was going to fight Mitchell, but was rightly held back, Stephen Ormond's another going down the WBO route. There's so many fighters about domestically, Buckland, Rees, Mathews, Gethin and Flanagan can all be added to that list, that they're going to have to fight one another to get to world titles, apart from Burns who's proved himself at that level and has the drawing power to get a champion over to fight him.

Horse wrote:I want Crolla vs Abril.

Abril is very good. I cant see Crolla winning that. That's not meant as an insult to Crolla either. Abril is a very slick boxer.

expe wrote:

columbo wrote:

Final round wrote:Yeh Crolla vs Mitchell next please.

I'd like to see that. I think they're being moved in different directions though. Mitchell fighting in a final eliminator for the IBF strap (Guy he's fighting looks pretty good aswell and is unbeaten although against poo opponents)

Hearn's trying to move Burns, Mitchell, Crolla and Coyle towards world title fights, at some point at least one combination of those will have to fight each other. Burns is going down the WBC route, Mitchell the IBF, Crolla's fighting for WBO trinkets, but Top Rank seem to have big plans for Crawford and Anthony Crolla won't be one of them, Coyle was going to fight Mitchell, but was rightly held back, Stephen Ormond's another going down the WBO route. There's so many fighters about domestically, Buckland, Rees, Mathews, Gethin and Flanagan can all be added to that list, that they're going to have to fight one another to get to world titles, apart from Burns who's proved himself at that level and has the drawing power to get a champion over to fight him.

That probably tells us that they have to fight each other, but that's bad promoting.

columbo wrote:

expe wrote:

Neil Gee wrote:
He's a work in progress, columbo. I'm not sure whether we had this discussion b4 but I think he's a genuine late-developer and I certainly think he will beat Burns if it comes off. Maybe a fight with Burns would be good for Ant. No doubt he wants to jump in for a world title next fight but I think a fight with Burns first would be better for him.

No doubt he's improving, but unless Burns is completely shot he doesn't stand a chance. Crolla's best weapon is his jab, but Burn's jab is far better and Crolla isn't slick enough and doesn't hit hard enough to break Burns down. Too big, too strong and too good, world level vs domestic level. Crolla would be better off going in with Mitchell, Coyle or Marsili right now.

Do you think Crolla would beat Mitchell mate?

I've not seen Mitchell box, at least not that I'm aware of, his name doesn't stick in my mind, so I can't say, but I've seen Burns last 3 fights and yes I do think he's shot. A couple of years ago Crolla would have had difficulty to say the least but now I think he has too much for what's left of Burns.
I've seen all Crolla's fights since the prizefighter thing and he has improved with every fight. He wasn't blessed with obvious outstanding talent and yet the way he's come on year by year I have to think that if he got the right title fight he would have a chance (but not yet, he should fight Burns first and get a chance to improve and learn a little more).

columbo wrote:

Final round wrote:Yeh Crolla vs Mitchell next please.

I'd like to see that. I think they're being moved in different directions though. Mitchell fighting in a final eliminator for the IBF strap (Guy he's fighting looks pretty good aswell and is unbeaten although against poo opponents)

Yeah shame. The domestics are well matched

Terry O'Conner is a clueless buffoon, take a look at John Murray's face as he gets up after that knock down, he'd had enough and there was no point sending him in for more, but fat Tel asks him if he wants to continue and lets him take a good few more blasts to the head for good measure.

Terry O'Connor wants to learn to get his arse out of the way of the camera I was sick of him blocking the view. Lets face it it's not the most petite of arses either is it?

Terry was good tonight and let it flow

columbo wrote:Abril is very good. I cant see Crolla winning that. That's not meant as an insult to Crolla either. Abril is a very slick boxer.

How much would a loss against Abril hurt Crolla? It's worth going for.