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Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:20
by palooka
which world class boxers has he beat????.....[/quote]

You're sticking the boot in here as a Brook man.[/quote]

Pot, kettle, black :TU:

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:20
by lefty
Another question.... who do you think would win out of bundu and Carson Jones? OR even Bundu and Senchenko?

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:21
by lefty
palooka wrote:which world class boxers has he beat????.....
You're sticking the boot in here as a Brook man.[/quote]

Pot, kettle, black :TU:[/quote]
Lol I havent stuck the boot into Brook for losing though cos it hasnt happened. Also im not personally involved in Frankie Gavin's camp.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:22
by palooka
columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:which world class boxers has he beat????.....
You're sticking the boot in here as a Brook man.


Pot, kettle, black :TU:[/quote]
Lol I havent stuck the boot into Brook for losing though cos it hasnt happened. Also im not personally involved in Frankie Gavin's camp.[/quote]

I wasn't on about you :D

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:22
by palooka
Why is it imperative to have the rematch in Britain?

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:25
by lefty
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:which world class boxers has he beat????.....
You're sticking the boot in here as a Brook man.


Pot, kettle, black :TU:
Lol I havent stuck the boot into Brook for losing though cos it hasnt happened. Also im not personally involved in Frankie Gavin's camp.[/quote]

I wasn't on about you :D[/quote]
You qouted me ya mentalist :lol:

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:26
by palooka
I've still not got the hang of it - was on about los :-?

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:41
by lefty
No worries. You just confused me, that's all lol.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 09:45
by Broomhall
Riddick Blowe wrote:
Broomhall wrote:I have lost count of the number of times I have heard boxers say after a loss things like "I am going to do it right next time-get a sports therapist, nutritionist, strength conditioner etc on board"

These guys are elite athletes and many of them are still doing the same training/coaching routines they did in their old amateur days-blowing up between fights, starving/drying out to extremes before weigh ins, sparring when they feel like it, going for marathon runs etc etc and it isnt until the wheels come off that someone says perhaps we should try some of that modern sports science mumbo jumbo next time.

I would guess the problem is often because the boxer is the guy employing everyone else so no one wants to upset the apple cart.
Good post. People make a lot of excuses for him it seems too. For some reason this guy always had a very overly-optimistic fanbase.
I think the optimism to be fair came from Frankies amazing amateur career and there was no reason this could not translate into pro success-as a template (and also a brummie) Pat Cowdell who had a similar skillful, light punching style went to give the legendary Salvador Sanchez one of his hardest fights so there was no reason to think that Gavin could not go onto at least challenge for a world title.

You just think that when someone with his ability turns over his promotional team would analyse his lifestyle, his diet, his training, see what adjustments he needed to make-there is so much science in sports now, but it seems to pass many boxers by and it is amazing when you think of the sums of money involved.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 10:14
by dalcumly
I obviously got the scoring completely wrong given the judges decision and the TV commentators . I had it 117-110 Bundu.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 10:42
by palooka
I though that Frankie had the first 4 rounds and then Bundu won until the 10th, Frankie got last 2. It was a good scrap but Bundu won.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 12:47
by stujones
How is Bundu the Commonwealth champ?

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 12:49
by lefty
stujones wrote:How is Bundu the Commonwealth champ?
He was born in Sierra Leone.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 12:51
by stujones
columbo wrote:
stujones wrote:How is Bundu the Commonwealth champ?
He was born in Sierra Leone.
Surely he can either represent his birth country or country of residence who he represents. Surely he cannot be both?

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 12:53
by lefty
stujones wrote:
columbo wrote:
stujones wrote:How is Bundu the Commonwealth champ?
He was born in Sierra Leone.
Surely he can either represent his birth country or country of residence who he represents. Surely he cannot be both?
Lol no idea to be honest.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 12:56
by stujones
It's got to be a first. A fighter who has fought for Italy most of his career wins commonwealth title. A bit of a joke if you ask me.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 13:34
by JimJim2009
palooka wrote:Why is it imperative to have the rematch in Britain?
Cos travelling challengers often get stitched up in Italy when a fight goes the distance. Happens here too, of course. Gavin vs Bundu 2 would be close on the cards and Frank knows full well to get every advantage.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 13:36
by palooka
JimJim2009 wrote:
palooka wrote:Why is it imperative to have the rematch in Britain?
Cos travelling challengers often get stitched up in Italy when a fight goes the distance. Happens here too, of course. Gavin vs Bundu 2 would be close on the cards and Frank knows full well to get every advantage.
I was being a bit facetious Jim, it does happen over here as well - the Beltran bout in Scotland was unreal.

I hope Bundu gets his World Title shot and earns well, he's a very good fighter and was class before the bout and after. If he came back he'd get stitched up.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 14:27
by JimJim2009
palooka wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:
palooka wrote:Why is it imperative to have the rematch in Britain?
Cos travelling challengers often get stitched up in Italy when a fight goes the distance. Happens here too, of course. Gavin vs Bundu 2 would be close on the cards and Frank knows full well to get every advantage.
I was being a bit facetious Jim, it does happen over here as well - the Beltran bout in Scotland was unreal.

I hope Bundu gets his World Title shot and earns well, he's a very good fighter and was class before the bout and after. If he came back he'd get stitched up.
:doh:

It'll be interesting to see if Frank does indeed bankroll a rematch, from the on-air comments, it seems Frank may need to cough up considerably more than last time. He paid just under ninety thousand quid (110 thousand euro's), and if my memory is correct the split is 60/40 to champion / challenger. So Bundu got fifty odd grand for Friday's bout, and next time "wants paying". Dig deep, Frank :TU:

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 14:55
by jessi
Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 16:14
by dalcumly
I guess that Bundu's first defence will be against Willie Limond in Glasgow around November !!!!

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 16:56
by mickey1975
It will be here because the Italians aren't bothered about him. I bet he'd give that Kell Brook nightmares....

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 18:48
by expe
jessi wrote:Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!
I see things similarly, there's still other issues to be sorted with Frankie, thankfully all of them either in the ring or with his training, but even in defeat, he answered a lot of questions on Friday.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 04:18
by Ezzard
jessi wrote:Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!
Agreed. But he'll be all the better for this when he does go all the way.

Also agree he needs to be back in the ring quickly. Take a warm up fight or whatever... Just stay active.

Re: Gavin vs Bundu

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 04:41
by Bard of Boxrec
Ezzard wrote:
jessi wrote:Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!
Agreed. But he'll be all the better for this when he does go all the way.

Also agree he needs to be back in the ring quickly. Take a warm up fight or whatever... Just stay active.
Where's he going all the way to? Middleweight?

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