The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

[jameswilson]

Its time groves changed trainers again.

Agreed. He really seems to have lost something. Not sure if it's the trainer, but he's getting hit a lot

Booth was always a big proponent of punch avoidance too.

[dookus]

Groves' reflexes seem to have dulled since the second Froch fight

[reggaereggae]

Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!

Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?

[crusader]

Has Froch damaged Groves or is Froch on the fade and Groves wasn't all that special in the first place?

It's a good question. I think a lot of people assume that since Froch struggled with Groves the latter must be a top fighter, but perhaps those bouts are more reflective of Froch declining or having off-nights.

[TheWigwam]

Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!

Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?

Ann Wolfe?

[jameswilson]

Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!

Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?

Lindsay Davenport?

No.

[reggaereggae]

Its time groves changed trainers again.

Agreed. He really seems to have lost something. Not sure if it's the trainer, but he's getting hit a lot

Booth was always a big proponent of punch avoidance too.

True. I never used to rate Booth, I just thought he was lucky with 2 majorly talented guys in his books. Maybe I'm wrong :-)

[Old Jack J]

Its time groves changed trainers again.

Agreed. He really seems to have lost something. Not sure if it's the trainer, but he's getting hit a lot

He seems to have lost his way. Something needs changing.

[handsofstone]

Groves gets his first round in on my card

[stevieb_8006]

Wolfe wasn't it? Great fighter

[reggaereggae]

Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!

Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?

Lindsay Davenport?

No.

Hahhahahhhhahah no! Ann Wolfe like theWigWam says. Can't remember who she trained mind....

[crusader]

James Kirkland

[rhino222]

Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!

frank Maloney?

[stevieb_8006]

Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!

Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?

Ann Wolfe?

[Joellucketti]

James Kirkland had a women trainer in the corner when he fought that tapia lad. I take it its that ann wolfe lady somebody mentioned???

[crusader]

James Kirkland had a women trainer in the corner when he fought that tapia lad. I take it its that ann wolfe lady somebody mentioned???

That's her.

[lefty]

Groves looks like shit and this is against a guy that was knocked out twice at 154 and one of those was against journeyman lol

[Boxing Prospect]

Lucia Rijker is also a trainer, she was in the corner for the Diana Prazak Vs Frida Wallberg fight and quite possibly saved Wallberg's life that night

[Cyclops]

Anybody scoring this?

[Sklar]

Douglin doesn't look fit for 12.

[Old Jack J]

Douglin starting to tire.

[TheWigwam]

Her KO of Vonda Ward was crazy

[whiskey]

Epic bald spot on groves head.

[Finn]

Douglin is looking gassed I think he's on his way out.

[Neil Gee]

Has Froch damaged Groves or is Froch on the fade and Groves wasn't all that special in the first place?

Interesting question. But this isn't the Groves of the first Froch fight or even GG's last fight, I just think he has seriously underestimated this bloke's level of ambition and ability and isn't up for it. It's tough to try and raise your level of commitment when your in the ring if he hasn't been there in the preparation.