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Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:32
by jameswilson
reggaereggae wrote:
Old Jack J wrote:Its time groves changed trainers again.
Agreed. He really seems to have lost something. Not sure if it's the trainer, but he's getting hit a lot
Booth was always a big proponent of punch avoidance too.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:32
by dookus
Groves' reflexes seem to have dulled since the second Froch fight

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:33
by reggaereggae
Rexob wrote:Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!
Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:34
by crusader
Sklar wrote:Has Froch damaged Groves or is Froch on the fade and Groves wasn't all that special in the first place?
It's a good question. I think a lot of people assume that since Froch struggled with Groves the latter must be a top fighter, but perhaps those bouts are more reflective of Froch declining or having off-nights.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:34
by TheWigwam
reggaereggae wrote:
Rexob wrote:Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!
Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?
Ann Wolfe?

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:34
by jameswilson
reggaereggae wrote:
Rexob wrote:Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!
Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?
Lindsay Davenport?

No.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:34
by reggaereggae
jameswilson wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:
Old Jack J wrote:Its time groves changed trainers again.
Agreed. He really seems to have lost something. Not sure if it's the trainer, but he's getting hit a lot
Booth was always a big proponent of punch avoidance too.
True. I never used to rate Booth, I just thought he was lucky with 2 majorly talented guys in his books. Maybe I'm wrong :-)

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:34
by Old Jack J
reggaereggae wrote:
Old Jack J wrote:Its time groves changed trainers again.
Agreed. He really seems to have lost something. Not sure if it's the trainer, but he's getting hit a lot
He seems to have lost his way. Something needs changing.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:35
by handsofstone
Groves gets his first round in on my card

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:35
by stevieb_8006
Wolfe wasn't it? Great fighter

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:36
by reggaereggae
jameswilson wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:
Rexob wrote:Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!
Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?
Lindsay Davenport?

No.
Hahhahahhhhahah no! Ann Wolfe like theWigWam says. Can't remember who she trained mind....

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:36
by crusader
James Kirkland

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:36
by rhino222
Rexob wrote:Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!
frank Maloney?

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:36
by stevieb_8006
TheWigwam wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:
Rexob wrote:Was going to say never seen a woman corner man before and it's his mother WOW never seen that before!
Wasn't that butch American girl, forget her name but she was world champ, a trainer with some top fighters?
Ann Wolfe?
:TU:

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:37
by Joellucketti
James Kirkland had a women trainer in the corner when he fought that tapia lad. I take it its that ann wolfe lady somebody mentioned???

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:37
by crusader
Joellucketti wrote:James Kirkland had a women trainer in the corner when he fought that tapia lad. I take it its that ann wolfe lady somebody mentioned???
That's her.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:38
by lefty
Groves looks like shit and this is against a guy that was knocked out twice at 154 and one of those was against journeyman lol

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:39
by Boxing Prospect
Lucia Rijker is also a trainer, she was in the corner for the Diana Prazak Vs Frida Wallberg fight and quite possibly saved Wallberg's life that night

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:39
by Cyclops
Anybody scoring this?

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:39
by Sklar
Douglin doesn't look fit for 12.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:39
by Old Jack J
Douglin starting to tire.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:40
by TheWigwam
Her KO of Vonda Ward was crazy :TU:

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:40
by whiskey
Epic bald spot on groves head.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:41
by Finn
Douglin is looking gassed I think he's on his way out.

Re: The official Cleverly v Bellew in play discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:41
by Neil Gee
Sklar wrote:Has Froch damaged Groves or is Froch on the fade and Groves wasn't all that special in the first place?
Interesting question. But this isn't the Groves of the first Froch fight or even GG's last fight, I just think he has seriously underestimated this bloke's level of ambition and ability and isn't up for it. It's tough to try and raise your level of commitment when your in the ring if he hasn't been there in the preparation.