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I would have thought that if ITV PPV were to pick it up they would have done by now to give them a chance to publicise it properly.

It's the same with Golovkin v Canelo - less than 2 weeks out and still no-one is properly advertising it.

Eddie and Sky get a lot of stick but they know how to promote and nobody does it better in UK boxing.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Sam98 wrote:Think it might be on ITV PPV...

Great news if so...If any one fight could kill off PPV as a business model, this fight is it. It'll be a financial disaster for all parties

I've said on here several times that when I couldn't afford Sky I could afford a PPV with my mates and the same applies to loads of people.

Either way it's been around for more than two decades. It's not going to go away.

bripez wrote:

veriton wrote:it's just a dull wbo heavyweight fight on about the same level as herbie hide taking on tony tucker in norwich.

I agre - although Hide and Tucker were both exciting.

Hughie and Parker are both boring.

I don't know that it will be boring.
To be fair on both fighters, they will be in top shape, it's not like some HW fights where one or both are carrying excess flab. And Parker can go 12 with maybe taking 1-3 total rounds off. I can't vouch for Huey, but I would expect him to be in the shape of his life. With his health problems supposedly behind him, and the magnitude of this opportunity - I am expecting the best Huey Fury ever, to step in the ring.

Sam98 wrote:Think it might be on ITV PPV...

Does that mean we get Hughie and Peter on Loose Women in the build up.

To answer the question posed in the thread title, if ticket sales are anything to go by the answer is a resounding yes.

This Saturday the fight is three weeks away, they haven't even opened the top tier of the Arena by the look of things, and you can get as many tickets as you like in any of the blocks going. The capacity of the venue is more than 20,000 and I'm not sure they've shifted a quarter of that, which begs the very obvious question:

Why is this taking place at Manchester Arena?

dirk2686 wrote:The capacity of the venue is more than 20,000 and I'm not sure they've shifted a quarter of that, which begs the very obvious question:

Why is this taking place at Manchester Arena?

At this point the question is actually "Is this taking place at Manchester Arena?"

I can't imagine they've sold any more than 2,000 for this - at a push.

At what point will the Fury team work out that they can talk about being respected, the Tyson is the lineal blah blah and they deserve etc and etc money and sponsorship and endorsement but the proof suggests that no one gives a flying fck about any of them - Hughie or Tyson?

I still think it could make decent TV ratings - if on ITV box office, I am sure it will make the ITV news, which generates more viewers than an ad on Sky Sports.

It is still a heavyweight title fight, in Britain involving a Brit (who is related to Tyson Fury) - there are so many reasons why this should make the sports news.... Eubank IBO title fight was on ITV news all day.

The blame has to lie at Hennessey’s door, he is the promoter and his job is to promote his clients and the events to the public.

Again and this is not the first time Hennessey has done Jack Shi*t to promote neither.

Since the press conference announcing the fight 7 weeks ago what has Hennessey done. How many interviews have you seen him do to promote this event, looking on youtube the last interview Hennessey done was about 4-5 weeks ago. Shocking!

On the hennessey sports website the last press release added was on the 12th August, which is nearly 3 weeks ago now. Shocking!

Looking at all of this it seems that Hennessey just can’t be bothered to do his job, if it was Hearn, Warren or any other promoter they would be getting themselves out there and promoting this event to the public.

If its carries on like this will Hennessey pull the plug at the last minute to save cash and leave the fans who have purchased tickets, spent money on their travel expenses and hotels out of pocket yet again.

So Mick if you're reading this please do the sport a favour and either start promoting Hughie and your events or walk away and let Hughie sign with someone who will want to move his career forward, the fighter deserves the chance to fight and earn money.

Glass Joe wrote:The blame has to lie at Hennessey’s door, he is the promoter and his job is to promote his clients and the events to the public.

Again and this is not the first time Hennessey has done Jack Shi*t to promote neither.

Since the press conference announcing the fight 7 weeks ago what has Hennessey done. How many interviews have you seen him do to promote this event, looking on youtube the last interview Hennessey done was about 4-5 weeks ago. Shocking!

On the hennessey sports website the last press release added was on the 12th August, which is nearly 3 weeks ago now. Shocking!

Looking at all of this it seems that Hennessey just can’t be bothered to do his job, if it was Hearn, Warren or any other promoter they would be getting themselves out there and promoting this event to the public.

If its carries on like this will Hennessey pull the plug at the last minute to save cash and leave the fans who have purchased tickets, spent money on their travel expenses and hotels out of pocket yet again.

So Mick if you're reading this please do the sport a favour and either start promoting Hughie and your events or walk away and let Hughie sign with someone who will want to move his career forward, the fighter deserves the chance to fight and earn money.

I know I've said this a million times in this thread but Hughie is also with allegedly. Go to Warren's website and click fighters; there, on the second row from the top, between Liam Williams and Liam Walsh, is Hughie Fury. And clearly given the records for each fighter this has been updated at least relatively recently.

stujones wrote:I still think it could make decent TV ratings - if on ITV box office, I am sure it will make the ITV news, which generates more viewers than an ad on Sky Sports.

It is still a heavyweight title fight, in Britain involving a Brit (who is related to Tyson Fury) - there are so many reasons why this should make the sports news.... Eubank IBO title fight was on ITV news all day.

People aren't bothered about Tyson Fury never mind his unknown cousin. Hughie hasn't fought in well over a year so there's no built up interest, it's a heavyweight title in name only as every man and his dog, including everyone from casuals who've never heard of Hughie to diehard fans know the whoever wins this is the weakest champion by miles.

Being on the news means nothing these days - as a boxer your profile is built up by being in exciting fights (not Hughie then), having a strong presence on social media (not Hughie either) and fighting often (insert your own joke.)

I don't see how this does decent ratings at all outside New Zealand. Hughie is absolutely light years from being a household name in this country.

dirk2686 wrote:

Glass Joe wrote:The blame has to lie at Hennessey’s door, he is the promoter and his job is to promote his clients and the events to the public.

Again and this is not the first time Hennessey has done Jack Shi*t to promote neither.

Since the press conference announcing the fight 7 weeks ago what has Hennessey done. How many interviews have you seen him do to promote this event, looking on youtube the last interview Hennessey done was about 4-5 weeks ago. Shocking!

On the hennessey sports website the last press release added was on the 12th August, which is nearly 3 weeks ago now. Shocking!

Looking at all of this it seems that Hennessey just can’t be bothered to do his job, if it was Hearn, Warren or any other promoter they would be getting themselves out there and promoting this event to the public.

If its carries on like this will Hennessey pull the plug at the last minute to save cash and leave the fans who have purchased tickets, spent money on their travel expenses and hotels out of pocket yet again.

So Mick if you're reading this please do the sport a favour and either start promoting Hughie and your events or walk away and let Hughie sign with someone who will want to move his career forward, the fighter deserves the chance to fight and earn money.

I know I've said this a million times in this thread but Hughie is also with allegedly. Go to Warren's website and click fighters; there, on the second row from the top, between Liam Williams and Liam Walsh, is Hughie Fury. And clearly given the records for each fighter this has been updated at least relatively recently.

Warren’s website doesn’t mean jack all, Hennessey is promoting this fight, he has promoted Hughie from the start so the blame lies with Hennessey, if warren was involved his name and box natioon would be all over this event but it’s not.

Hennessey should be doing a job of a promoter but he clearly isn’t yet again. People weren’t bothered with the likes of Bellew, Quigg, Crolla to name a few but Hearn done his job and promoted these guys, bellow sold thousands at Goodison Park, Hughie hasn’t sold 3k at Manchester Arena, yes that is partly down to Hughie but the majority of the blame lies with Hennessey? what has Hennessey done for Hughie to promote this event, answers on a stamp please!

Glass Joe wrote:Hennessey should be doing a job of a promoter but he clearly isn’t yet again. People weren’t bothered with the likes of Bellew, Quigg, Crolla to name a few but Hearn done his job and promoted these guys, bellow sold thousands at Goodison Park, Hughie hasn’t sold 3k at Manchester Arena, yes that is partly down to Hughie but the majority of the blame lies with Hennessey? what has Hennessey done for Hughie to promote this event, answers on a stamp please!

I'm not absolving Hennessy of blame - the promotion for this has been dismal. I'm just questioning what Warren has to do with it. Let's not forget Warren signed Hughie, Hughie is still a Warren fighter, Warren handled all purse bids for Parker Fury in New Zealand. My question is what is Warren doing for this fight? The promotional situation for Hughie seems utterly confusing but if Hughie is still a Warren fighter surely Warren should be doing something?

With only 24 days to go you can buy as many tickets as you want on Eventim. Ive never seen a 'big title' fight with so many tickets on sale with less than 4 weeks to go. It does not look like tier 2 is open for this event. Wonder when the tickets will be given away for free?

dirk2686 wrote:

Glass Joe wrote:Hennessey should be doing a job of a promoter but he clearly isn’t yet again. People weren’t bothered with the likes of Bellew, Quigg, Crolla to name a few but Hearn done his job and promoted these guys, bellow sold thousands at Goodison Park, Hughie hasn’t sold 3k at Manchester Arena, yes that is partly down to Hughie but the majority of the blame lies with Hennessey? what has Hennessey done for Hughie to promote this event, answers on a stamp please!

I'm not absolving Hennessy of blame - the promotion for this has been dismal. I'm just questioning what Warren has to do with it. Let's not forget Warren signed Hughie, Hughie is still a Warren fighter, Warren handled all purse bids for Parker Fury in New Zealand. My question is what is Warren doing for this fight? The promotional situation for Hughie seems utterly confusing but if Hughie is still a Warren fighter surely Warren should be doing something?

I dunno if Hughie is a Warren fighter though? Surely the fight would be confirmed on BN if he was?

dirk2686 wrote:

Glass Joe wrote:Hennessey should be doing a job of a promoter but he clearly isn’t yet again. People weren’t bothered with the likes of Bellew, Quigg, Crolla to name a few but Hearn done his job and promoted these guys, bellow sold thousands at Goodison Park, Hughie hasn’t sold 3k at Manchester Arena, yes that is partly down to Hughie but the majority of the blame lies with Hennessey? what has Hennessey done for Hughie to promote this event, answers on a stamp please!

I'm not absolving Hennessy of blame - the promotion for this has been dismal. I'm just questioning what Warren has to do with it. Let's not forget Warren signed Hughie, Hughie is still a Warren fighter, Warren handled all purse bids for Parker Fury in New Zealand. My question is what is Warren doing for this fight? The promotional situation for Hughie seems utterly confusing but if Hughie is still a Warren fighter surely Warren should be doing something?

If Warren is Hughies promoter then what is Hennessys job? What is he getting payed for? To serve as a decoration on press conference? Warren has no reason to help Hennessy, his rival. If Hughie want Warrens total commitment he needs to show his total loyalty. This is the part of the game. Quite similar to when Eddie stops hyping "his" fighters after they sign with Haymon.

Tarkus wrote:

dirk2686 wrote:

Glass Joe wrote:Hennessey should be doing a job of a promoter but he clearly isn’t yet again. People weren’t bothered with the likes of Bellew, Quigg, Crolla to name a few but Hearn done his job and promoted these guys, bellow sold thousands at Goodison Park, Hughie hasn’t sold 3k at Manchester Arena, yes that is partly down to Hughie but the majority of the blame lies with Hennessey? what has Hennessey done for Hughie to promote this event, answers on a stamp please!

I'm not absolving Hennessy of blame - the promotion for this has been dismal. I'm just questioning what Warren has to do with it. Let's not forget Warren signed Hughie, Hughie is still a Warren fighter, Warren handled all purse bids for Parker Fury in New Zealand. My question is what is Warren doing for this fight? The promotional situation for Hughie seems utterly confusing but if Hughie is still a Warren fighter surely Warren should be doing something?

If Warren is Hughies promoter then what is Hennessys job? What is he getting payed for? To serve as a decoration on press conference? Warren has no reason to help Hennessy, his rival. If Hughie want Warrens total commitment he needs to show his total loyalty. This is the part of the game. Quite similar to when Eddie stops hyping "his" fighters after they sign with Haymon.

In fairness wasn't the deal with some of the Hearn/Haymon fighters a lot more open? Namely Hearn promotes them fully in UK fights and Haymon does when they're in the States? And Hearn is often present at 'his' fighters fights in the US - he walked DeGale into the ring against Jack for example.

The thing I don't understand re. Hughie and Warren is this; Warren signed Hughie. Warren does purse bids for Parker Hughie. The fight gets moved to the UK. Suddenly Warren falls off the radar. Something must have happened but Warren hasn't mentioned at all that he's no longer promoting Hughie.

It's a mess.

dirk2686 wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

dirk2686 wrote:
I'm not absolving Hennessy of blame - the promotion for this has been dismal. I'm just questioning what Warren has to do with it. Let's not forget Warren signed Hughie, Hughie is still a Warren fighter, Warren handled all purse bids for Parker Fury in New Zealand. My question is what is Warren doing for this fight? The promotional situation for Hughie seems utterly confusing but if Hughie is still a Warren fighter surely Warren should be doing something?

If Warren is Hughies promoter then what is Hennessys job? What is he getting payed for? To serve as a decoration on press conference? Warren has no reason to help Hennessy, his rival. If Hughie want Warrens total commitment he needs to show his total loyalty. This is the part of the game. Quite similar to when Eddie stops hyping "his" fighters after they sign with Haymon.

In fairness wasn't the deal with some of the Hearn/Haymon fighters a lot more open? Namely Hearn promotes them fully in UK fights and Haymon does when they're in the States? And Hearn is often present at 'his' fighters fights in the US - he walked DeGale into the ring against Jack for example.

The thing I don't understand re. Hughie and Warren is this; Warren signed Hughie. Warren does purse bids for Parker Hughie. The fight gets moved to the UK. Suddenly Warren falls off the radar. Something must have happened but Warren hasn't mentioned at all that he's no longer promoting Hughie.

It's a mess.

I think Eddies arrangement with Al is similar in practice. Haymon becomes the principle manager who make all carrier decisions. Eddie is used as a promoter in the UK because Haymon has no infrastructure over here and as a facade in US where Heymon has no promoter licence. Eddie begrudgingly agrees the the deal because he doesnt want to fight and because he is payed percentages for doing little work. In return he indeed does very little for those guys. That is why most of them now fight in the US.

I'm sure that Warren is or was just his Manager(which I recall from an IFL interview), which explains his high undeserved ranking from the WBO and Warren's lack of involvement in the promotion.

mimmy123 wrote:With only 24 days to go you can buy as many tickets as you want on Eventim. Ive never seen a 'big title' fight with so many tickets on sale with less than 4 weeks to go. It does not look like tier 2 is open for this event. Wonder when the tickets will be given away for free?

fingers crossed that "competitions" for free pairs of tickets for lucky winners are online soon.

i have seen some promotional stuff through hennessey's FB page but not much elsewhere. this could have been a wythenshaw forum job or that velodrome that farnell, hatton and gomez used to box at.

Naandrew wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/peterfury/st ... 4077334528

Thanks mate.

This should be interesting, blimmin strangest title fight organisation ever.

KiwiRider wrote:

Naandrew wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/peterfury/st ... 4077334528

Thanks mate.

This should be interesting, blimmin strangest title fight organisation ever.

https://mobile.twitter.com/peterfury/st ... 7534364672

Very hard sell on PPV. Casuals have never heard of either of them, it'll take an excellent build-up to draw them in