Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:33ya exactly, kiko throughout would cover up when warrington went into crazy flurry mode, then come back at the end of it. it was just how he does defense. hardly any quality landed there, it just looked flashy
When I say Kiko was outmatched in physical terms, I didn't mean to give weight to the idea he was outclassed and the stoppage deserved, just that it clearly cost him more energy than Warrington in the clinches and rough stuff.

He was so obviously waiting for Warrington to start thinking twice about his output, and then fire back, as was the pattern throughout. Shoulda dipped his head and given it the bull!
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Bellew talks utter shit. Kiko was fine against Barrett, but got jobbed on the cards, whereas he was outboxed for all bar 30 seconds against Galahad.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Good for Josh but that stoppage was meh and the usage of the head and shoulders was noticeable...
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Watching it live I thought it was an early stoppage but after seeing the replay it wasn't a bad stoppage, I would've liked to have seen a conclusive ending but it is what it is
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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More than fair stoppage. He was done,
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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They hit the jackpot with Ebanie Bridges tonight.

The same by Maxi Hughes and Dalton Smith, hoping for some challenging opponents next.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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digzee wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:19 Warrington has got a problem with his hand, he just told his dad/trainer
Bellew got told it by Josh's dad at the end of the 5th round, just as I heard Josh say it
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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It's not easy fighting a shorter fighter it can often get messy, I don't think Josh went in intentionally to fight dirty
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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funnily enough his head still found the mark straight away vs same height mauricio lara
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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digzee wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:46Watching it live I thought it was an early stoppage but after seeing the replay it wasn't a bad stoppage, I would've liked to have seen a conclusive ending but it is what it is
I felt Kiko was trapped square and elected to weave instead of punch because he wasn't set to deliver much power. Waiting for a gap to reset that never came, while Warrington sensed the ref and didn't cease.

Not saying he wasn't hurt because he was, but had his wits about him re: tactics. He probably should've crossarmed to guard liver and chin and bundled forward into a clinch. At least after a few unanswered shots, when we know home refs are lightfooted.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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digzee wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:54 It's not easy fighting a shorter fighter it can often get messy, I don't think Josh went in intentionally to fight dirty
He isn't lining him up and just nutting him. But he gets his head shoulder and elbows in, then actively pushes people into the ropes with em. And not like a smooth push like jerking shove movements, you do that enough and your going to cut people. To me it doesn't have to be intentionally whacking somone with a foul but if how you fight leads to 50 acedentsl fouls then you can't just pass them up as acedents.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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The Heids Warrior.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Fearful_Freddie wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:30
jameswilson wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:29
Fearful_Freddie wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:26 "Fistic hero". Where does Ronald get them from?
Sounds like a porno.
Norman Lamont would agree.
:lol: well played
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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That defeats is Kiko's 11 loss of his career and puts him back to journeyman, division gatekeeper status!
It was nice while it lasted! :-?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Delighted for Warrington reclaiming his old world title. The guys been dedicated to his profession and grafted his nuts off building a local fan base.

I don't like the thought of him winning by foul means, but it's fairly anti-Warrington stuff on here so will have to watch the fight and see.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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THEBUTCH wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:06 Delighted for Warrington reclaiming his old world title. The guys been dedicated to his profession and grafted his nuts off building a local fan base.

I don't like the thought of him winning by foul means, but it's fairly anti-Warrington stuff on here so will have to watch the fight and see.
i have been a fan of josh's for several years, it was obvious blatant fouling

almost immediately cut his opponents with fouls 2 fights in a row now
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Fight pick league update :wave: viewtopic.php?p=5726248#p5726248
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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:TU: I'll give it a watch and see how bad the fouls were. Warrington is eager with his attacks, but deliberate fouling is another matter.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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maybe getting roughed up and stopped by lara convinced josh that he needed to find a way to have more of a physical presence in there
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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THEBUTCH wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:16:TU: I'll give it a watch and see how bad the fouls were. Warrington is eager with his attacks, but deliberate fouling is another matter.
I don't think his fouls are premeditated, more that once he's up close he tries to gain the upper hand through physicality, and that manifests in a foul-prone style.

Needs a strict ref.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Grilling Machine wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:28
THEBUTCH wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:16:TU: I'll give it a watch and see how bad the fouls were. Warrington is eager with his attacks, but deliberate fouling is another matter.
I don't think his fouls are premeditated, more that once he's up close he tries to gain the upper hand through physicality, and that manifests in a foul-prone style.
It’s two fights in a row now.

Once a blip, twice a Trend.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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gregregegg wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:59
digzee wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:54 It's not easy fighting a shorter fighter it can often get messy, I don't think Josh went in intentionally to fight dirty
He isn't lining him up and just nutting him. But he gets his head shoulder and elbows in, then actively pushes people into the ropes with em. And not like a smooth push like jerking shove movements, you do that enough and your going to cut people. To me it doesn't have to be intentionally whacking somone with a foul but if how you fight leads to 50 acedentsl fouls then you can't just pass them up as acedents.
That's just boxing for you I didn't see it as illegal but rather a bit dirty. It's something AJ needs to learn to be honest, Fury does it brilliantly. Every boxer needs to learn the dark arts to get every advantage they can
margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:56 funnily enough his head still found the mark straight away vs same height mauricio lara
Watch Lara's last fight he gets into trouble with the head himself as well
Grilling Machine wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:58
digzee wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 19:46Watching it live I thought it was an early stoppage but after seeing the replay it wasn't a bad stoppage, I would've liked to have seen a conclusive ending but it is what it is
I felt Kiko was trapped square and elected to weave instead of punch because he wasn't set to deliver much power. Waiting for a gap to reset that never came, while Warrington sensed the ref and didn't cease.

Not saying he wasn't hurt because he was, but had his wits about him re: tactics. He probably should've crossarmed to guard liver and chin and bundled forward into a clinch. At least after a few unanswered shots, when we know home refs are lightfooted.
Yeah he got caught square and got backed up onto the ropes, Josh then swarmed him and although not every punch landed the ones that did land looked like they rocked him a little, if he was letting Josh tire himself out he waited too long.

Kiko didn't complain when the ref stepped in and he looked tired walking back to his corner which says to me the ref was right
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:29
Grilling Machine wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:28
THEBUTCH wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:16:TU: I'll give it a watch and see how bad the fouls were. Warrington is eager with his attacks, but deliberate fouling is another matter.
I don't think his fouls are premeditated, more that once he's up close he tries to gain the upper hand through physicality, and that manifests in a foul-prone style.
It’s two fights in a row now.

Once a blip, twice a Trend.
2 fights in a row, both within 2 rounds has the other guy cut lol. doesnt waste any time does he

and then 'oh, kiko's looking busted up in there' when all his blood is from fouls
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:32
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:29
Grilling Machine wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 20:28

I don't think his fouls are premeditated, more that once he's up close he tries to gain the upper hand through physicality, and that manifests in a foul-prone style.
It’s two fights in a row now.

Once a blip, twice a Trend.
2 fights in a row, both within 2 rounds has the other guy cut lol. doesnt waste any time does he

and then 'oh, kiko's looking busted up in there' when all his blood is from fouls
Yeh. Coincidence.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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It’s his new strategy. Headbutt his opponent early and cause cuts and then work away..
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