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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 04:11
by tonyevs
bigjack wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 15:56
Benns career is following a similar path to Khans with a host of once half decent opponents,who are either on the slide,inactive or old,or in the case with Van Heerden,all three
Quite unfair on Khan that. I would say Benns career appears to be following the Naz Hamed path more ... a bunch of nobodies with padded records and then well worn fighters with a name. If Benn is given the non-punchers to walk through and feast on - then just like Naz when he stepped it up; he will most likely find himself getting a rude awakening to the game.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 04:16
by bigjack
tonyevs wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:11
bigjack wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 15:56
Benns career is following a similar path to Khans with a host of once half decent opponents,who are either on the slide,inactive or old,or in the case with Van Heerden,all three
Quite unfair on Khan that. I would say Benns career appears to be following the Naz Hamed path more ... a bunch of nobodies with padded records and then well worn fighters with a name. If Benn is given the non-punchers to walk through and feast on - then just like Naz when he stepped it up; he will most likely find himself getting a rude awakening to the game.
I'm talking about the early stages where he missed the british,euro and commonwealth route and feasted on past it, once decent names

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 04:27
by maverick23
bigjack wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:16
tonyevs wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:11
bigjack wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 15:56
Benns career is following a similar path to Khans with a host of once half decent opponents,who are either on the slide,inactive or old,or in the case with Van Heerden,all three
Quite unfair on Khan that. I would say Benns career appears to be following the Naz Hamed path more ... a bunch of nobodies with padded records and then well worn fighters with a name. If Benn is given the non-punchers to walk through and feast on - then just like Naz when he stepped it up; he will most likely find himself getting a rude awakening to the game.
I'm talking about the early stages where he missed the british,euro and commonwealth route and feasted on past it, once decent names
Yeah - I’d have loved the John Murray fight.

Khan was matched fairly well I think until his PPV debut against an unknown Prescott. Obviously I would have preferred him to go for the British title but he was kept extremely active. He fought Prescott after being pro for 3 years and Kotelnik for the title after 4 years.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 04:41
by Dioufy
Didn’t Khan miss the Thaxton fight after Jon won the Euro? If so that would’ve been fun. Thaxton was a tough man.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 05:09
by maverick23
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:41 Didn’t Khan miss the Thaxton fight after Jon won the Euro? If so that would’ve been fun. Thaxton was a tough man.
Yep - another fight that would have been good to see. In fairness I can fully understand Khan’s team swerving that one.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 05:13
by Dioufy
maverick23 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:09
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:41 Didn’t Khan miss the Thaxton fight after Jon won the Euro? If so that would’ve been fun. Thaxton was a tough man.
Yep - another fight that would have been good to see. In fairness I can fully understand Khan’s team swerving that one.
I seem to remember Murray was a novice when Khan was headlong on ITV so I get that one not happening.
You deffo had the likes of Thaxton and Romanov that probably should’ve happened.
Instead we got Lawton and Gomez.

Anyone remember the Gomez fight? Think it was Birmingham? Gomez could’ve won that.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 05:21
by maverick23
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:13
maverick23 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:09
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:41 Didn’t Khan miss the Thaxton fight after Jon won the Euro? If so that would’ve been fun. Thaxton was a tough man.
Yep - another fight that would have been good to see. In fairness I can fully understand Khan’s team swerving that one.
I seem to remember Murray was a novice when Khan was headlong on ITV so I get that one not happening.
You deffo had the likes of Thaxton and Romanov that probably should’ve happened.
Instead we got Lawton and Gomez.

Anyone remember the Gomez fight? Think it was Birmingham? Gomez could’ve won that.
Yeah - it was Birmingham. I remember saying to my friends before the fight that Khan would blitz him. Gomez is too easy to hit now and will be hammered inside a couple of rounds. Instead Gomez made it a pretty tough fight and knocked Khan down in round 2.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 05:22
by black panther
maverick23 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:21
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:13
maverick23 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:09

Yep - another fight that would have been good to see. In fairness I can fully understand Khan’s team swerving that one.
I seem to remember Murray was a novice when Khan was headlong on ITV so I get that one not happening.
You deffo had the likes of Thaxton and Romanov that probably should’ve happened.
Instead we got Lawton and Gomez.

Anyone remember the Gomez fight? Think it was Birmingham? Gomez could’ve won that.
Yeah - it was Birmingham. I remember saying to my friends before the fight that Khan would blitz him. Gomez is too easy to hit now and will be hammered inside a couple of rounds. Instead Gomez made it a pretty tough fight and knocked Khan down in round 2.

Hurt Khan to the body too if my memory serves

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 05:28
by maverick23
black panther wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:22
maverick23 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:21
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:13

I seem to remember Murray was a novice when Khan was headlong on ITV so I get that one not happening.
You deffo had the likes of Thaxton and Romanov that probably should’ve happened.
Instead we got Lawton and Gomez.

Anyone remember the Gomez fight? Think it was Birmingham? Gomez could’ve won that.
Yeah - it was Birmingham. I remember saying to my friends before the fight that Khan would blitz him. Gomez is too easy to hit now and will be hammered inside a couple of rounds. Instead Gomez made it a pretty tough fight and knocked Khan down in round 2.

Hurt Khan to the body too if my memory serves
Yeah - was a good learning fight for Khan in the end.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:15
by Ruthless-RKO
bigjack wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:16
tonyevs wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:11
bigjack wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 15:56
Benns career is following a similar path to Khans with a host of once half decent opponents,who are either on the slide,inactive or old,or in the case with Van Heerden,all three
Quite unfair on Khan that. I would say Benns career appears to be following the Naz Hamed path more ... a bunch of nobodies with padded records and then well worn fighters with a name. If Benn is given the non-punchers to walk through and feast on - then just like Naz when he stepped it up; he will most likely find himself getting a rude awakening to the game.
I'm talking about the early stages where he missed the british,euro and commonwealth route and feasted on past it, once decent names
I think he only won the commonwealth belt.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:23
by Dioufy
Benn v Essouman creates more interest here than Algieri and van Heerden did.
I work with a South African women and she had no clue who he was!
Bill it as the battle of British for the British belt and I think it does better figures on tv and tickets than van Heerden or Mo Hooker.
Hearn needs to cut the bullshit. I used to love his interviews; they were refreshing.
Now they’re mostly nonsense. Sometimes pretty insulting to the boxing fans in known.
Time for a real fight for Benn whether it’s Brook, Ava, Ortiz, TC, Spence or Ennis.
Add Kava, Essouman, McKinson, Ava, Crowley.

I’m not overly arsed about both Garcia’s or Broner. They’re done at top level.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:25
by Dioufy
I’d prefer Marku over Broner, Garcia’s, Hooker tbh.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:29
by forcefraser
Why not put him in with the guy who beat Mikey Garcia?

The Spanish dude xan box and us tough, just the kind of fight that Benn needs.

After the abuse Hearn gave Khan for his performance in the Brook fight he wants to put Benn in there with him at Christmas

Total sell.out Hearn has become. He clearly doesn't want to put Benn in with a live opponent.

Many ex pros saying that he hasn't had a decent test yet and is nowhere near ready for the top boys.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:37
by bigjack
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 07:15
bigjack wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:16
tonyevs wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 04:11

Quite unfair on Khan that. I would say Benns career appears to be following the Naz Hamed path more ... a bunch of nobodies with padded records and then well worn fighters with a name. If Benn is given the non-punchers to walk through and feast on - then just like Naz when he stepped it up; he will most likely find himself getting a rude awakening to the game.
I'm talking about the early stages where he missed the british,euro and commonwealth route and feasted on past it, once decent names
I think he only won the commonwealth belt.
You're right,I had forgotton about the commonwealth wins,

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:38
by margaret thatcher
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 07:23 Benn v Essouman creates more interest here than Algieri and van Heerden did.
I work with a South African women and she had no clue who he was!
Bill it as the battle of British for the British belt and I think it does better figures on tv and tickets than van Heerden or Mo Hooker.
Hearn needs to cut the bullshit. I used to love his interviews; they were refreshing.
Now they’re mostly nonsense. Sometimes pretty insulting to the boxing fans in known.
Time for a real fight for Benn whether it’s Brook, Ava, Ortiz, TC, Spence or Ennis.
Add Kava, Essouman, McKinson, Ava, Crowley.

I’m not overly arsed about both Garcia’s or Broner. They’re done at top level.
i dont see how you can be so down on danny garcia. he still looked decent against spence, albeit a year and a half ago. won 3-4 rounds and never close to stopped vs a guy who is p4p top 5. he's can box, he can bang some, very tough, and is miles better than anyone benn has faced (he's stopped a couple benn opponents himself, like granados)

of course it's all moot, because regardless of what hearn says i think there's close to 0 percent chance it happens. garcia's a highly paid pbc fighter and no way would they go from all these pillow hands suddenly to a super tough proven world class fighter

mo hooker is probably next tbh

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:45
by Dioufy
margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 07:38
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 07:23 Benn v Essouman creates more interest here than Algieri and van Heerden did.
I work with a South African women and she had no clue who he was!
Bill it as the battle of British for the British belt and I think it does better figures on tv and tickets than van Heerden or Mo Hooker.
Hearn needs to cut the bullshit. I used to love his interviews; they were refreshing.
Now they’re mostly nonsense. Sometimes pretty insulting to the boxing fans in known.
Time for a real fight for Benn whether it’s Brook, Ava, Ortiz, TC, Spence or Ennis.
Add Kava, Essouman, McKinson, Ava, Crowley.

I’m not overly arsed about both Garcia’s or Broner. They’re done at top level.
i dont see how you can be so down on danny garcia. he still looked decent against spence, albeit a year and a half ago. won 3-4 rounds and never close to stopped vs a guy who is p4p top 5. he's can box, he can bang some, very tough, and is miles better than anyone benn has faced (he's stopped a couple benn opponents himself, like granados)

of course it's all moot, because regardless of what hearn says i think there's close to 0 percent chance it happens. garcia's a highly paid pbc fighter and no way would they go from all these pillow hands suddenly to a super tough proven world class fighter

mo hooker is probably next tbh
Danny Garcia is a top level fighter but it would be 2 years since he last fought by the time he’d fight Benn.
I don’t like that.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:46
by margaret thatcher
would you pick ekow or marku to beat garcia if they fought next?

obviously inactivity isnt good and ive gotten after it with plenty of benn opponents (van heerden hadnt fought a complete round in like 2.5 years), but there's levels too. garcia with 2 years out is still a huge step up for benn.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 07:52
by Dioufy
margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 07:46 would you pick ekow or marku to beat garcia if they fought next?
I get your point.
But Garcia is 34, not fought in nearly 2 years and someone Khan fought 10 years ago.
I want to see Benn in with someone who is not on the decline of their career. For a change.
For all we know… Garcia might take the pay day and do what Grenados did.
No way Marku or Essouman do the same; they’ll come to win 100%.

Marku next, then if Garcia fights in the interim I wouldn’t object that fight late 2022.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 08:01
by rd350lc
Were there quite a few empty seats for this and I wonder what numbers Dazn subs are at in the UK ?
Obviously fast car isn't aiming at regular boxing fans because they can see through all the bull .
It's the casual market he's aiming at and looking at posts on FB etc it looks like lots are sucked in .
Maybe Benn is the real deal but how could anyone possibly know from the last 5 or 6 fights ?
If he doesn't step up soon and stop fighting shot fighters even the casual market won't be bothering .

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 08:04
by Dioufy
Plenty of empty seats.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 08:05
by skanksta
People said this all the time about Hatton and his career turned out pretty good !

He had the "deep amateur background" TM too, which Benn doesn't.
He's making money and learning, they'll time his run right I'm sure.
Kinda true of Calzaghe to a lesser extent. It's doesn't really bother me that much - it's just boxing.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 08:16
by Boxerbeetle
rd350lc wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 08:01 Were there quite a few empty seats for this and I wonder what numbers Dazn subs are at in the UK ?
Obviously fast car isn't aiming at regular boxing fans because they can see through all the bull .
It's the casual market he's aiming at and looking at posts on FB etc it looks like lots are sucked in .
Maybe Benn is the real deal but how could anyone possibly know from the last 5 or 6 fights ?
If he doesn't step up soon and stop fighting shot fighters even the casual market won't be bothering .
I resubbed to DAZN a couple of weeks ago. Forget about Benn, but anyone who doesn’t think the Golovkin, Taylor & Canelo fights aren’t worth £8 combined can’t be too much of a boxing fan imo.

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 09:10
by forcefraser
Golovkin and Canelo are worth the £8

The women's stuff you can keep for all I care. It is however the fight that Buncey is looking forward to most out of all fights in 2022

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 10:17
by rd350lc
Boxerbeetle wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 08:16
rd350lc wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 08:01 Were there quite a few empty seats for this and I wonder what numbers Dazn subs are at in the UK ?
Obviously fast car isn't aiming at regular boxing fans because they can see through all the bull .
It's the casual market he's aiming at and looking at posts on FB etc it looks like lots are sucked in .
Maybe Benn is the real deal but how could anyone possibly know from the last 5 or 6 fights ?
If he doesn't step up soon and stop fighting shot fighters even the casual market won't be bothering .
I resubbed to DAZN a couple of weeks ago. Forget about Benn, but anyone who doesn’t think the Golovkin, Taylor & Canelo fights aren’t worth £8 combined can’t be too much of a boxing fan imo.
Yes , totally agree , I'm curious as to how many subscribers we have in the UK at the moment .
I got a mate that dips in now and again to fights and he's no interest in getting DAZN and wouldn't have heard of the fighters you named and seemed to only follow British lads and used to watch it when on Sky .
It's ok building a padded record to get near the top with the likes of Sky but think it must be a whole lot harder on the platform Benn is on .

Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 10:18
by rd350lc
Dioufy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 08:04 Plenty of empty seats.
Thats what I thought .