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joshj909 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:15 Weird as hell from AJ. Remembered the PR training but good message Inthe end even if it was weird.

He's got a huge personality.

This is a dramatic moment and maybe I am off topic, but I hope at least Ukrainians can have a happy night despite the dire situation (being realistic).

Weird promo by AJ but the message was clear.

JxhDel. wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:17 This is a dramatic moment and maybe I am off topic, but I hope at least Ukrainians can have a happy night despite the dire situation (being realistic).

My thoughts are also with Ukraine.

117-111 usyk for me

TempleSlave wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:05

skanksta wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:04 Redemption for AJ if not a win...

U wot??

What is difficult..?
He proved a lot in defeat tonight. Gave his all - no shame in losing like that to Usyk.
Went up in my estimation.

Usyk did it without the roids (Holyfield), didn't dodge the draft like Ali, and did it in far classier fashion. Guy is an amazing ambassador of the sport.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:23 Usyk did it without the roids (Holyfield), didn't dodge the draft like Ali, and did it in far classier fashion. Guy is an amazing ambassador of the sport.

Dodging the draft !

skanksta wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:22

TempleSlave wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:05

skanksta wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:04 Redemption for AJ if not a win...

U wot??

What is difficult..?
He proved a lot in defeat tonight. Gave his all - no shame in losing like that to Usyk.
Went up in my estimation.

And ruined his fake assed persona in the post fight. The guy is a fake

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:06 I'll hand it to Joshua, he always improves with losses. Guy doesn't give up.

Yes fantastic performance by AJ. Better stamina and better fitness. As a result a better chin too.

It must have been as hot as hell in there the way sweat was pouring out of them.

Congrats to Usyk, he goes down as one of the greats.

116-112 Usyk for me.

Man Usyk is a great fighter, has that other gear..hurt bad in 9th comes out and takes control again in ,10,11 ,12 wow..

Just noticed that Usyk had no idea what AJ was saying as nobody was translating for him

joshj909 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:30 Just noticed that Usyk had no idea what AJ was saying as nobody was translating for him

I’m Sure he understands the basics.

He knew Joshua was pooing on his parade, and that Joshua lost his mind for a minute, Joshua started disrespect by getting down in the middle of Usyk praying, anyways Joshua has a lot of good points none the less.

Joshua fell apart in the last round, trying to wrestle desperately. If he'd been more patient and managed to win the last round, it would have been a draw!

instead he gave up at the end. But he did a lot better overall than last time, there was only one round, maybe two that really looked like the last fight.

Angus young wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:21 117-111 usyk for me

goose 5 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:29 116-112 Usyk for me.

Reasonable scorecards.

I don't understand Glenn Feldman's 115-113 for Joshua. I expected Gray to score it closer than it was, but Feldman's card was outlandish.

Feldmans card very odd. Considering the fight was fought throughout the ring with usyk showing great movement hard to say he was isolated from viewing scoring punches. I had it 117-111 but have no issue with 116-112. Either way masterful by usyk.

skanksta wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:22

TempleSlave wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:05

skanksta wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:04 Redemption for AJ if not a win...

U wot??

What is difficult..?
He proved a lot in defeat tonight. Gave his all - no shame in losing like that to Usyk.
Went up in my estimation.

“…if not a win”? AJ won mayyybe 3 rounds. 4 if I’m stupidly generous.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:36

Angus young wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:21 117-111 usyk for me

goose 5 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:29 116-112 Usyk for me.

Reasonable scorecards.

I don't understand Glenn Feldman's 115-113 for Joshua. I expected Gray to score it closer than it was, but Feldman's card was outlandish.

I score 10-10 rounds when close, and i had four of those.

If i give all 4 close rounds to Joshua it's 115-113 Joshua. If I give them all to Usyk it's 117-111 Usyk. Split them 2-2 and it's 115-113 Usyk.

Which matches almost exactly the three actual scorecards. It's not hard to understand what judges are doing when you score like this.

You have to assume everyone has some "bias" in what they are seeing, and the scores make sense. None of these scores was outlandish.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:36

Angus young wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:21 117-111 usyk for me

goose 5 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:29 116-112 Usyk for me.

Reasonable scorecards.

I don't understand Glenn Feldman's 115-113 for Joshua. I expected Gray to score it closer than it was, but Feldman's card was outlandish.

Reasonable yes, but I had it 119-110. Did AJ really talk about a civil war in Ukraine? What an ignorant motherfucker.

SportsRatings wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:35 Joshua fell apart in the last round, trying to wrestle desperately. If he'd been more patient and managed to win the last round, it would have been a draw!

instead he gave up at the end. But he did a lot better overall than last time, there was only one round, maybe two that really looked like the last fight.

We don’t know the judges didn’t give him that last round.

SportsRatings wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:41

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:36

Angus young wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:21 117-111 usyk for me

goose 5 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:29 116-112 Usyk for me.

Reasonable scorecards.

I don't understand Glenn Feldman's 115-113 for Joshua. I expected Gray to score it closer than it was, but Feldman's card was outlandish.

I score 10-10 rounds when close, and i had four of those.

If i give all 4 close rounds to Joshua it's 115-113 Joshua. If I give them all to Usyk it's 117-111 Usyk. Split them 2-2 and it's 115-113 Usyk.

so, if the decision had gone to aj, would you have been cool with that?

I scored the fight 118-110 to Usyk.

For the last ten or eleven months, I thoroughly expected Usyk to beat Joshua again comfortably, but the media coverage of the fight compelled me to suffer from a last-minute change of heart.

I always expect Usyk to outbox AJ, but I somehow felt that Joshua would score a lottery-winning KO against the run of play.

And I was clearly wrong. I should have stuck to my guns.

That said, I feel that Tyson Fury can beat Oleksandr Usyk. And I have never believed otherwise.

Here you go.

Sky Sports replayed it

JackSprocket wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:42

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:36

Angus young wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:21 117-111 usyk for me

goose 5 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 19:29 116-112 Usyk for me.

Reasonable scorecards.

I don't understand Glenn Feldman's 115-113 for Joshua. I expected Gray to score it closer than it was, but Feldman's card was outlandish.

Reasonable yes, but I had it 119-110. Did AJ really talk about a civil war in Ukraine? What an ignorant motherfucker.

Seems fairly uncivil to me too