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Eddie Hearn says the frontrunner for Anthony Joshua’s next fight in March is the Dillian Whyte vs. Jermaine Franklin winner.

Julian McGowan has an interesting opinion on this on his new YouTube channel.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 12:41 Eddie Hearn says the frontrunner for Anthony Joshua’s next fight in March is the Dillian Whyte vs. Jermaine Franklin winner.

Wasn`t Joshua supposed to be out in December, then its January early Feb and now its March??

Hearn said he wanted him out 3 times in a year. Joshua must be one of the most inactive fighters out there.

Eddie speaks such pish. When he`s promoting Canelo he`s the PFP number one, then when Usyk beats Joshua again he`s the PFB number one and now it`s Bivol who is pfp number one.

Joshua looks disinterested in it all. I'm not sure he wants it anymore. Looks fragile upstairs to me, may as well retire with that state of mind.

His bubble was well and truly burst after Ruiz beat him. He did fight well in the second Usyk fight with a much improved performance but I think that has finished him off. He did his best and came up short.

He's a good athlete, and can be competitive but the best has come and gone with him.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 16:15 Joshua looks disinterested in it all. I'm not sure he wants it anymore. Looks fragile upstairs to me, may as well retire with that state of mind.

His bubble was well and truly burst after Ruiz beat him. He did fight well in the second Usyk fight with a much improved performance but I think that has finished him off. He did his best and came up short.

He's a good athlete, and can be competitive but the best has come and gone with him.

Yeah - he seems to be struggling at the moment. Not quite sure what to do.

He’s still got a lot to offer. Just needs to decide what he wants to prioritise. The commercial stuff or going after the big fights. I think he’d be better off going to Garcia’s camp in the US, binning off Angel who I still think is too much of a yes man, going back to basics and doing less commercial work.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 16:15 Joshua looks disinterested in it all. I'm not sure he wants it anymore. Looks fragile upstairs to me, may as well retire with that state of mind.

His bubble was well and truly burst after Ruiz beat him. He did fight well in the second Usyk fight with a much improved performance but I think that has finished him off. He did his best and came up short.

He's a good athlete, and can be competitive but the best has come and gone with him.

More or less McGowans opinion.

I can cut AJ some slack on the extra time out. He got beat up late august, has a new trainer, and its trying to plan a rebuild. if he were to fight whyte in march it would be a huge fight to come back on..

but Personally id rather AJ fight big baby miller in feb (throw whyte on the undercard vs trev bryant) . then AJ vs whyte at Wembely in July. Just think AJ vs whyte can be huge, why not both get back in the wins and do it in summer..

I understand they are probably trying to line it up so he can fight Fury in the summer but i wouldent plan for that, Id have my plans made based on fury not existing, but have a "Fury clause" in my contracts that says for a million dollar fee i can cancle in the event of a fury fight being signed.

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 20:44 I understand they are probably trying to line it up so he can fight Fury in the summer but i wouldent plan for that, Id have my plans made based on fury not existing, but have a "Fury clause" in my contracts that says for a million dollar fee i can cancle in the event of a fury fight being signed.

Do you think he will pay a million dollars to get 15-20% of a purse?

Joshua should have two easy fights in feb and june then cash out with the fury fight in september.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 03:17

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 20:44 I understand they are probably trying to line it up so he can fight Fury in the summer but i wouldent plan for that, Id have my plans made based on fury not existing, but have a "Fury clause" in my contracts that says for a million dollar fee i can cancle in the event of a fury fight being signed.

Do you think he will pay a million dollars to get 15-20% of a purse?

No, in my hypothetical world they would pay out whyte if a contract comes from fury that AJ wants and accept (or if Fury accepts AJs contract).. so if its 15% AJ wouldnt take it and would just fight whyte. If it was 50% AJ would pay whyte 1 million dollars and fight fury... Where the exact line he would draw is i dont know (i would guess somehwere around 35-45%)

gregregegg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 03:42 No, in my hypothetical world they would pay out whyte if a contract comes from fury that AJ wants and accept (or if Fury accepts AJs contract).. so if its 15% AJ wouldnt take it and would just fight whyte. If it was 50% AJ would pay whyte 1 million dollars and fight fury... Where the exact line he would draw is i dont know (i would guess somehwere around 35-45%)

After agreeing to fight and then failing to sign the contract, do you seriously think that FW will increase his split to 45%?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 04:36

gregregegg wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 03:42 No, in my hypothetical world they would pay out whyte if a contract comes from fury that AJ wants and accept (or if Fury accepts AJs contract).. so if its 15% AJ wouldnt take it and would just fight whyte. If it was 50% AJ would pay whyte 1 million dollars and fight fury... Where the exact line he would draw is i dont know (i would guess somehwere around 35-45%)

After agreeing to fight and then failing to sign the contract, do you seriously think that FW will increase his split to 45%?

I think i have zero idea of what the ins and outs of the contract will be. Splits are only part of contracts, theres also network sharing, sponcer rights, ect ect ect, site rights...

hypotheticaly, Saudis offer 200 million dollars, but AJ wont sign unless he gets 45%, do you think fury walks away from 110 million dollars? what if its 400 million dollars? ? ect ect...

Contract discussion gets massivly oversimplified in boxing media (and fan conversations). The reality is these are porbably 20+ page documents with 20 lawyers going through them word by word. they arnt one sentence saying 60-40 split, DEAL...

in my hypothetical contract If AJ agrees to a fury fight, he will stand to make enough money to give whyte 1 million bucks cancleation fee. . but, we are away from my point. my point is dont plan your carrer arond Fury at this point, he is too wildcard.

Anthony Joshua "100%" Open to Fighting Dillian Whyte Next

“You know what it is? It is best that you do speak to me because I can say it from the horse’s mouth,” Joshua told iFL TV. “It could be, but don’t hold me to the cross the things I say. The game’s forever changing. It’s also whatever Dillian wants to do as well.

“Would I fight Dillian again? Yes, 100%.”

“Fighting for the heavyweight championship of the world (against Fury) was a big opportunity for me. After just coming off of a loss, as well … it was annoying that it didn’t happen,” Joshua said. “And, yes, it’s annoying, so that’s why I decided after that there’s too much back and forth. When I’m ready to ride again, I’ll ride out proper. I’ll ride until the wheels fall off next time out, in the sense that I’ve got myself a time frame and a duration, I got a hit list and I’ll rock and roll.”

Fury and Joshua fought Chisora and Whyte respectively in the past and now they are heading for the rematches in front of the opportunity of fighting each other. Why the business is so sh!tty these days?

Anthony Joshua: “Boxing Has Become A Bit Complicated For Me”

“I don’t know,” former heavyweight multi-titlist Anthony Joshua recently said to DAZN regarding when he’d be back in action. “I was supposed to be in the ring this year, I’m going to be in the ring next year.” Joshua made it a point to avoid specifics. “I’ll be in the ring when I’m in the ring,” he said. “I don’t want to make statements today and then I’ll get held to the cross. Do you know what I mean? When I’m ready, I’ll be back in the ring.” Joshua made it clear that there are numerous matters in his life that are impacting him both in and out of the ring.

“My life is complicated. Boxing has become a bit complicated for me,” he said. Joshua made it a point, however, not to criticize those around him. “Everyone is just trying to make the most of this time while I’m boxing and they’re doing a good job,” he said. Joshua recently lost a rematch to Oleksandr Usyk, who lifted Joshua’s titles off him in their first bout in 2021. Joshua had previously gone on to admit that the second loss to Usyk drained him emotionally. Now, some time after last August’s rematch, the towering Englishman appears to be in a somewhat reflective mood.

“It does affect my ring activity,” Joshua told DAZN of the matters that are currently distracting him. “So I’m just always trying to push that stuff away. It’s a challenge. I’m just trying to get it out the way this year, so next year I can just focus.” Joshua was abruptly offered a huge fight with WBC and lineal heavyweight champion Tyson Fury several weeks ago. Negotiations, however, fell through. With that being said, many never believed the fight would happen as Fury wanted the bout to go down before the end of the year and Joshua had just emerged from his grueling match with Usyk.

“I’m not champion and it’s just hurting a lot,” Joshua (rather bravely) admitted to DAZN. “So I’m in the gym rebuilding and restructuring everything I have to do inside and outside of the ring.” Despite the challenger, Joshua made it clear that he’s confident about the future. “I just need to simplify a lot of stuff outside the ring,” he said, “and then I can put my full attention in the ring. And once I’ve got that done, next year I’ll be ready.”

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 06:02 Anthony Joshua: “Boxing Has Become A Bit Complicated For Me”

Finally the bodybuilder admitted it.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 06:02 “My life is complicated. Boxing has become a bit complicated for me,” he said.

“I just need to simplify a lot of stuff outside the ring,” he said, “and then I can put my full attention in the ring. And once I’ve got that done, next year I’ll be ready.”

But his apologists have tried to blame Fury and FW

BigDoofus wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 09:48

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 06:02 “My life is complicated. Boxing has become a bit complicated for me,” he said.

“I just need to simplify a lot of stuff outside the ring,” he said, “and then I can put my full attention in the ring. And once I’ve got that done, next year I’ll be ready.”

But his apologists have tried to blame Fury and FW

I must need glasses, because I'm struggling to read the bit where Joshua says.... "I was never going to fight Fury and it's all my fault that the fight didn't happen."

RJJ is having a trial training with AJ..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 07:35 RJJ is having a trial training with AJ..

Aj really believes he’s still learning. Over a decade since his Olympic and worlds exploits, years after winning the heavyweight title, he’s still ‘learning on the job’. In his mid thirties…

Wallin makes most sense. He should handle him pretty easy, likely stop him and then have bragging rights over the casual fans having 'been able to deal with Wallin far easier than Fury'.

Well, to be fair, I don't think he has been taught yet how to throw a lead left hook, left to the body, left uppercut combo, or defense with hands behind the back. So, if anyone's going to teach that, RJJ would be the one.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 07:35 RJJ is having a trial training with AJ..

He should tour the States again and be pictured with lots of different trainers. It would be great for his Instagram numbers especially if he could squeeze in another fashion show.

Still obsessed

The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 08:46 Still obsessed

It`s a modern day miracle that both Mickey1975(19st 6'4") and BigDoofus can both manage to squeeze inside Fury's hairy arsehole at the same time.