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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 09:53
by jwfg
Beterbiev is very good, but I didn't expect Call to get hit so cleanly, so early in the fight. Smith just couldn't keep him at range. I've always overrated Callum Smith, picking him to beat Canelo and Beterbiev.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 10:58
by jwfg
Ricky wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 17:14
jwfg wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 10:07
Ricky wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 09:18 How does a Russian fighting a Brit end up on TV at 4am. Boxing is such a shambles.
Your posts are a shambles. :-P
ok, minimumweight.
Yeah, but at least I know Beterbiev live in Canada. It ain't hard to find out, you just click the mouse a few times.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 13:12
by ShadrachSimmo
forcefraser wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 08:43
ShadrachSimmo wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 03:35
forcefraser wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 03:10

Such insolence. Some credit for the accuracy of the prediction would be in order. Shellacking, not past 8 and corner stoppage after knee.

Come on, give a man some credit
I was giving you credit mate. My response was tongue in cheek. Your prediction was bang on :TU:
😁 Only messing. Poor old Callum, he'll ve sore this morning. He has some chin on him

The realisation that there is a whole new level above world level will be what he is dealing with right now.

He's made a good few quid and achieved more than most in the sport. He'll probably hang em up.

The cold hard facts of a resumě evaluation is not the most impressive however.

On paper he beat Ryder, but most thought he was gifted that decision, as do I

So he best wins are possibly ageing back end versions of Groves, N'Dam and Castillo,
Followed by Rocky Fae Stocky and that C
Van Damn kickboxer in the Super Six.

Can't see how anyone thinks that list prepares you for Beterbiev. The man is an utter wrecking ball and Smith was just fodder from the off

Bivol is another story, but even he will struggle to keep Beterbie off him for 12 rounds, as he hasn't got huge power himself
It’s a fair assessment. The sky Sports fanboys were sucking dick big time it gets very queasy very quickly. Smiths a decent fighter but he was well out his depth last night.

I think Bivol could outwork Bert but it’ll take some performance to do so but he’s the man who could do it.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 15:51
by smiling assassin
Is Callum smith really world level. A gift against Ryder, beating an ageing Groves and taking a hiding off Canelo says to me that he was probably below world level all along and that is not a dig because he is still a very good fighter

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 15:57
by samwbr
Badly marked up after 3 rounds. Every punch by AB is hurtful.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 16:26
by SeanBrennan
MightyWarrior wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 17:09
SeanBrennan wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 16:24
polecateddy wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 16:16 I thought it was odd in the Boxing News preview that no mention was made of the fact Canelo effectively neutered him by punching his bicep. Surely that’s a rare approach? Isn’t it just likely to happen again in this fight?
good point, did not think of that and I read the BN article this morning.
Yeah, I caught that online, the insufferable Elliot Worsell, who just waffles on about nonsense and then always goes with the favourite. I know a lot of people seem to like him, but he’s a real bore,

I looked at the odds on Callum. They were 5/1 against earlier in the week and 3/1 this morning. Not very appealing considering the odds are stacked against him here, home cooking on the cards whichever way you look at it - the WBC clearly love “their champion”
I used to think he was insufferable and trying too hard to be overly wordy, his last few bits have been more palatable for me. I get what you mean though.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 16:26
by SeanBrennan
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 15:51 Is Callum smith really world level. A gift against Ryder, beating an ageing Groves and taking a hiding off Canelo says to me that he was probably below world level all along and that is not a dig because he is still a very good fighter
He won a World title and won the Super Series, I'd say world level. Well beaten last night though.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 18:06
by smiling assassin
SeanBrennan wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 16:26
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 15:51 Is Callum smith really world level. A gift against Ryder, beating an ageing Groves and taking a hiding off Canelo says to me that he was probably below world level all along and that is not a dig because he is still a very good fighter
He won a World title and won the Super Series, I'd say world level. Well beaten last night though.
Take groves out (groves was past his best) and who is Smiths biggest win. N’Dam a career middle, fielding? it’s hardly a who’s who of world beaters. I like smith and I hope he’s earnt a shed load of money for him and his family but I just don’t think he was true world class

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 14 Jan 2024, 20:41
by Ricky
jwfg wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 10:58
Ricky wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 17:14
jwfg wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 10:07

Your posts are a shambles. :-P
ok, minimumweight.
Yeah, but at least I know Beterbiev live in Canada. It ain't hard to find out, you just click the mouse a few times.
Who cares where he lives? Televising the contest at a time suitable for a Russian and British audience obviously makes more commercial sense for a title fight between a Russian and a Brit.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 15 Jan 2024, 12:47
by liamlion
Ricky wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 20:41
jwfg wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 10:58
Ricky wrote: 13 Jan 2024, 17:14

ok, minimumweight.
Yeah, but at least I know Beterbiev live in Canada. It ain't hard to find out, you just click the mouse a few times.
Who cares where he lives? Televising the contest at a time suitable for a Russian and British audience obviously makes more commercial sense for a title fight between a Russian and a Brit.
Maybe for you personally, but with respect Top Rank, an American promotional company, won the purse bids and their paymasters are ESPN and obviously for the larger lucrative American market, it made more commercial sense for it to be shown on Saturday night prime time in America… Also Top Rank do sort of know how to make money out of professional boxing…

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 15 Jan 2024, 14:28
by Ricky
liamlion wrote: 15 Jan 2024, 12:47
Ricky wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 20:41
jwfg wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 10:58

Yeah, but at least I know Beterbiev live in Canada. It ain't hard to find out, you just click the mouse a few times.
Who cares where he lives? Televising the contest at a time suitable for a Russian and British audience obviously makes more commercial sense for a title fight between a Russian and a Brit.
Maybe for you personally, but with respect Top Rank, an American promotional company, won the purse bids and their paymasters are ESPN and obviously for the larger lucrative American market, it made more commercial sense for it to be shown on Saturday night prime time in America… Also Top Rank do sort of know how to make money out of professional boxing…


It was on regular ESPN and didn't even get 1m viewers. Eddie Hearn put Bellew vs Haye on PPV and it got 1.5m purchases.

Channel 5 has pulled in 1.5m viewers in the UK for the free cards they've picked up from York Hall and such.

800k for this fight was a pathetic figure and proof it should've been geared for an audience this side of the Atlantic.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Callum Smith | Sky Sports - 13 January 2024

Posted: 15 Jan 2024, 15:36
by SeanBrennan
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 18:06
SeanBrennan wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 16:26
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Jan 2024, 15:51 Is Callum smith really world level. A gift against Ryder, beating an ageing Groves and taking a hiding off Canelo says to me that he was probably below world level all along and that is not a dig because he is still a very good fighter
He won a World title and won the Super Series, I'd say world level. Well beaten last night though.
Take groves out (groves was past his best) and who is Smiths biggest win. N’Dam a career middle, fielding? it’s hardly a who’s who of world beaters. I like smith and I hope he’s earnt a shed load of money for him and his family but I just don’t think he was true world class
that's fair enough. I just think we age people badly when they lose.