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tonyevs wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 02:42 Usyk won`t have the privilege to sit and wait for the pay day - as main belt holder he will have mandatory`s .. Dubs then whoever else quickly after.

It seems Simon Jordan has upset the proposed organiser by mentioning the purses to each boxer. Fury £90million .. Usyk £50 .. Wilder/AJ £30million. Thats going to make ego`s get stirred for sure; the tournament doesn`t work/sell so big without each of the 4.
Is Fury taking part worth almost double Usyk? .. is he worth 3x Wilder and AJ being there?
Fury and Usyk deserve more than Wilder and AJ .. but I not seeing how Fury is worth almost double Usyk.

Usyk was (apparently) willing to fight Fury for 30% in the first fight with percentages reversed when he beat Fury, so whilst happy to take a risk, ultimately seen himself earning equal amounts as Fury. It will be interesting to see if he is happy taking half the amount.

joshj909 wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 11:10

So that's Zhang, Ruiz and Joyce off the cards. Parker has a fight scheduled. So do Anderson, Kossobutskiy and Makhmudov. That leaves us with the following ranked by the WBC:
- Joshua (it's just not going to happen)
- Sanchez (Has said they're looking at Arreola plus nobody in the UK knows him).
- Whyte (Surely not another rematch)
- Bakole
- Wallin (Surely not another rematch)
- Kabayel
- Ortiz
- Ajagba
- Hrgovic (Matchroom plus guaranteed shot already so possible but unlikely)

So Sanchez, Bakole, Kabayel, Ortiz and Ajagba. Sanchez is very unknown. Bakole biggest name in the UK? Ortiz the biggest name overall? Ajagba is Top Rank and Kabayel is the easiest opponent.

joshj909 wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 11:10

So that's Zhang, Ruiz and Joyce off the cards. Parker has a fight scheduled. So do Anderson, Kossobutskiy and Makhmudov. That leaves us with the following ranked by the WBC:
- Joshua (it's just not going to happen)
- Sanchez (Has said they're looking at Arreola plus nobody in the UK knows him).
- Whyte (Surely not another rematch)
- Bakole
- Wallin (Surely not another rematch)
- Kabayel
- Ortiz
- Ajagba
- Hrgovic (Matchroom plus guaranteed shot already so possible but unlikely)

So Sanchez, Bakole, Kabayel, Ortiz and Ajagba. Sanchez is very unknown. Bakole biggest name in the UK? Ortiz the biggest name overall? Ajagba is Top Rank and Kabayel is the easiest opponent.

SteveO wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 14:40 I expect Ruiz wanted more than 2% of the purse

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 20:23

coneye wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 01:59

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 May 2023, 00:21 All the noise is about December, cubic dollars and Fury-Usyk and Joshua-Wilder. If true, I don't expect they will be too busy until then. Not when a banana skin fight might jeopardize the riches.

So it looks like the heavyweight scene is going to lay dormant for 6 months , DISGRACEFUL , Only hope in dec the Saudis see things different and then say you guys are not even active and too a certain extent relevent so , its now a quarter of the money , take it or leave it , Also we need the relevent authorties to issue , and demand belt defences or strip them , starting with FURY

The Saudi promoter's biggest concern is one of the four will lose before December.

coneye wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 16:00

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 20:23

coneye wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 01:59

So it looks like the heavyweight scene is going to lay dormant for 6 months , DISGRACEFUL , Only hope in dec the Saudis see things different and then say you guys are not even active and too a certain extent relevent so , its now a quarter of the money , take it or leave it , Also we need the relevent authorties to issue , and demand belt defences or strip them , starting with FURY

The Saudi promoter's biggest concern is one of the four will lose before December.

Well really its obvious , Wilder was / is never what he was cracked up to be , AJ well he's on a downward spiral , so them two really would be silly to take a fight and risk losing the huge money invvolved , and who can blame them .

Usyk well he's got manadtorys and realisticly not likely too lose ,, Fury well he's got a belt and may need to fight , and he could lose , because really he's ducked everyone decent so we still don't really know how good he is , he's been known to have a shocker and beating Chisora and Whyte was'nt excatly setting the world on fire .

Think the biggest problem they have is actually relying on Fury to take it at all, he's likely to double the amount agreed on 4 weeks out , problem with Fury is he is very greedy , but just has likely to knock back huge amounts stating he does'nt need it , because really he does'nt he may live a lvish lifestyle compared to us with a ferreari , and nice holidays , but realisticly he's got more than he will ever spend , , would imagine he still knocked his cousins down on the price for his tarmac

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 18:23

coneye wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 16:00

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 20:23

The Saudi promoter's biggest concern is one of the four will lose before December.

Well really its obvious , Wilder was / is never what he was cracked up to be , AJ well he's on a downward spiral , so them two really would be silly to take a fight and risk losing the huge money invvolved , and who can blame them .

Usyk well he's got manadtorys and realisticly not likely too lose ,, Fury well he's got a belt and may need to fight , and he could lose , because really he's ducked everyone decent so we still don't really know how good he is , he's been known to have a shocker and beating Chisora and Whyte was'nt excatly setting the world on fire .

Think the biggest problem they have is actually relying on Fury to take it at all, he's likely to double the amount agreed on 4 weeks out , problem with Fury is he is very greedy , but just has likely to knock back huge amounts stating he does'nt need it , because really he does'nt he may live a lvish lifestyle compared to us with a ferreari , and nice holidays , but realisticly he's got more than he will ever spend , , would imagine he still knocked his cousins down on the price for his tarmac

For Wilder and Joshua this Saudi thing is money from heaven because neither has much on the horizon and the loser will probably have nowhere to go afterwards but will leave with a very handy cash out. Fury and Usyk by contrast are at the top of their games, have the titles and have options, but the Saudi money - particularly what they might earn from it - will be life changing.

coneye wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 20:08

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 18:23

coneye wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 16:00

Well really its obvious , Wilder was / is never what he was cracked up to be , AJ well he's on a downward spiral , so them two really would be silly to take a fight and risk losing the huge money invvolved , and who can blame them .

Usyk well he's got manadtorys and realisticly not likely too lose ,, Fury well he's got a belt and may need to fight , and he could lose , because really he's ducked everyone decent so we still don't really know how good he is , he's been known to have a shocker and beating Chisora and Whyte was'nt excatly setting the world on fire .

Think the biggest problem they have is actually relying on Fury to take it at all, he's likely to double the amount agreed on 4 weeks out , problem with Fury is he is very greedy , but just has likely to knock back huge amounts stating he does'nt need it , because really he does'nt he may live a lvish lifestyle compared to us with a ferreari , and nice holidays , but realisticly he's got more than he will ever spend , , would imagine he still knocked his cousins down on the price for his tarmac

For Wilder and Joshua this Saudi thing is money from heaven because neither has much on the horizon and the loser will probably have nowhere to go afterwards but will leave with a very handy cash out. Fury and Usyk by contrast are at the top of their games, have the titles and have options, but the Saudi money - particularly what they might earn from it - will be life changing.

Thats my point regards Fury that colosol amount would'nt be life changing for him , he already has enough to be life changing , but whats he done ,, he bought a bigger house in morcombe , probably gonna send his kids to private school , then again maybee not , bought a couple of expensive cars , goes on holiday couple times a year . Thingi is he still mixes with the same people , and i can't see him moving to monte carlo , beverly hills with a private jet , Naaw its not in his makeup , Only thing another 50 million would do for him , is keep the taxman happy , and ensure theres something left for his grandkids has well has his kids

tonyevs wrote: ↑12 May 2023, 02:01 He may see negotiations as a sport, but he is as competent at it as he'd be at high board diving or synchronised swimming .. he's hasn't got a clue and lacks the physical and cognitive ability to do so.

We know how Fury and fWank work. Its all BS and duping the Fury fans and idiots (typically the same groups).

If he intends fighting in this tournament he will need a warm up for sure because he got nothing from Whytes feeble showing. So he may be fighting in the summer .. but it never was a live opponent.

The Gratest wrote: ↑12 May 2023, 04:43 Let the record show that the Defence Lawyer objects to the quantity of damning statements being submitted by the accusing member, and also, the timings of these statements. Can these please be reduced to one a day with submission at 10.45am, just prior to the 11am coffee and scone break?