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The Gratest wrote: ↑27 Jan 2023, 05:22 Man, I like this one. It's like a heavyweight Mayweather v Pac.

Zhang's got fast hands for such a big lump, and a fair bit of snap to his punches early on. He reminds me a bit of Corrie Sanders, southpaw, fast hands, 2-3 punch combos with a bit of a dig. I can see Joyce's vaunted chin being tested early on like never before (except when he got dropped in the ama's), especially by that left cross. Zhang being a big southpaw might prove a bit problematic for Joyce as well, as it might negate his jab, and he's not exactly known for delivering a straight right cross lead. I expect him to eventually prevail, wearing down Zhang late on with his relentless output as Zhang has show signs that his stamina isn't the best, but he'll probably need to eat a few punches early on (as ever).

The Gratest wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023, 17:32 Apart from the actual result (which I can be forgiven for, minor detail), this is how I saw it going.

Wow, i'm turning into EO

The Gratest wrote: ↑27 Jan 2023, 05:22 Man, I like this one. It's like a heavyweight Mayweather v Pac.

Zhang's got fast hands for such a big lump, and a fair bit of snap to his punches early on. He reminds me a bit of Corrie Sanders, southpaw, fast hands, 2-3 punch combos with a bit of a dig. I can see Joyce's vaunted chin being tested early on like never before (except when he got dropped in the ama's), especially by that left cross. Zhang being a big southpaw might prove a bit problematic for Joyce as well, as it might negate his jab, and he's not exactly known for delivering a straight right cross lead. I expect him to eventually prevail, wearing down Zhang late on with his relentless output as Zhang has show signs that his stamina isn't the best, but he'll probably need to eat a few punches early on (as ever).

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 01:30 Well one thing is for certain, and that’s big Joe is going to get hit hard and often early on. That’s a given isn’t it?
So the question is, does his chin and face hold up. Odds are one of those won’t. I’m worried that was one defeat that is not going to be under the ‘only makes you stronger’ category.

Still, everybody loves big Joe and I really hope he wins this. Big bang’s got a good chin though, which would be one of his best chances. I’m hoping for a miracle, also I’m gonna be in Wales so I’ll have to find a pub to watch it, so that’s two miracles I’m hoping for.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 02:54 Trilogy anyone?

Frostieballs wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 02:54 Trilogy anyone?

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 13:37 Zhang doesn’t have 12 rounds at any pace in him

Kilburn wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 14:13 Zhang can navigate 12 rounds, but can’t apply pressure for 12 rounds.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 01:30 Well one thing is for certain, and that’s big Joe is going to get hit hard and often early on. That’s a given isn’t it?
So the question is, does his chin and face hold up. Odds are one of those won’t. I’m worried that was one defeat that is not going to be under the ‘only makes you stronger’ category.

Still, everybody loves big Joe and I really hope he wins this. Big bang’s got a good chin though, which would be one of his best chances. I’m hoping for a miracle, also I’m gonna be in Wales so I’ll have to find a pub to watch it, so that’s two miracles I’m hoping for.

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 02:37 The last time I saw Joyce interviewed it looked like he had a load of scar tissue. Unless he’s able to nullify Zhang’s left hand then I can’t see him avoiding cuts.

I’m looking forward to it though. Good fight and credit to Joyce for going back into the fire.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 14:55

Kilburn wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 14:13 Zhang can navigate 12 rounds, but can’t apply pressure for 12 rounds.

Perhaps it wasn't clear what I was saying.
Zhang can't do 12 rounds at any(thing more than a very slow) pace.

Kilburn wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 17:12

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 14:55

Kilburn wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 14:13 Zhang can navigate 12 rounds, but can’t apply pressure for 12 rounds.

Perhaps it wasn't clear what I was saying.
Zhang can't do 12 rounds at any(thing more than a very slow) pace.

I agree with you.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 16:01

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 02:37 The last time I saw Joyce interviewed it looked like he had a load of scar tissue. Unless he’s able to nullify Zhang’s left hand then I can’t see him avoiding cuts.

I’m looking forward to it though. Good fight and credit to Joyce for going back into the fire.

Yeah, and he already had plenty - wasn't he in a car crash or something when he was young, I am sure i heard something like that, which curtailed his athletic career - he's certainly always had a lot of scar tissue around the left eye, ever since he was in the pro game.

I think those types of things tend to recur in the next fight, and Zhang has a definitive target to aim at now.

Kilburn wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 17:12

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 14:55

Kilburn wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 14:13 Zhang can navigate 12 rounds, but can’t apply pressure for 12 rounds.

Perhaps it wasn't clear what I was saying.
Zhang can't do 12 rounds at any(thing more than a very slow) pace.

I agree with you.