Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

[coneye]

They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.

I.lm going to watch again
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here

I don’t know if they teach it but I guess things go out the window sometimes even if they do teach it, we see plenty of fighters jump straight up when knocked down instead of taking a longer count and clearing their heads.

Suppose the reason i have metioned it a couple of times is because i was taught it , and i did teach it , I used it to bring a bit of fun in the gym has well suppose you could call it silly moment , everyone would arms out , spin around like little kids , when too dizzy to stand , fall down , when i started counting , take a knee , and get up on the count of 8 , the kids especielly loved it , because they were encouraged to laugh at the older guys if they could'nt get up or were just too dizzy , brought a bit of fun into training .

,, But like all training there was the element of seriousness , NOTHING and i mean NOTHING should ever be happenning for the first time in the ring , it was a form of losing your equibliem and balance and recovering , , . One paticular lad i trained in an ameteur championsship , took a big hit , took the knee till 8 , then for the coming onslaught that he knew was coming because it had been discussed to death in the gym , met his opponent with a wicked left hook from hell and won that title by ko,, he said after and still says to this day nearly 30 years later , that taking the knee , expecting the onslaught was what won him that fight . ,, out of curiosity i rang around a few trainers i know today and asked if they do it in the gym every one of them said NO , couple laughed thought it was silly , couple said what a great idea we will try it .

But your correct most fighters will jump straight up before they are ready , this has i was taught then taught myself is to learn you NOT to do that , its a count , its happenning so USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE ... lIKE I ALWAYS SAY , FIRST TIME anything happens in the ring you have to be prepared for it in the gym

[Controversial]

I.lm going to watch again
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here

I don’t know if they teach it but I guess things go out the window sometimes even if they do teach it, we see plenty of fighters jump straight up when knocked down instead of taking a longer count and clearing their heads.

Suppose the reason i have metioned it a couple of times is because i was taught it , and i did teach it , I used it to bring a bit of fun in the gym has well suppose you could call it silly moment , everyone would arms out , spin around like little kids , when too dizzy to stand , fall down , when i started counting , take a knee , and get up on the count of 8 , the kids especielly loved it , because they were encouraged to laugh at the older guys if they could'nt get up or were just too dizzy , brought a bit of fun into training .

,, But like all training there was the element of seriousness , NOTHING and i mean NOTHING should ever be happenning for the first time in the ring , it was a form of losing your equibliem and balance and recovering , , . One paticular lad i trained in an ameteur championsship , took a big hit , took the knee till 8 , then for the coming onslaught that he knew was coming because it had been discussed to death in the gym , met his opponent with a wicked left hook from hell and won that title by ko,, he said after and still says to this day nearly 30 years later , that taking the knee , expecting the onslaught was what won him that fight . ,, out of curiosity i rang around a few trainers i know today and asked if they do it in the gym every one of them said NO , couple laughed thought it was silly , couple said what a great idea we will try it .

But your correct most fighters will jump straight up before they are ready , this has i was taught then taught myself is to learn you NOT to do that , its a count , its happenning so USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE ... lIKE I ALWAYS SAY , FIRST TIME anything happens in the ring you have to be prepared for it in the gym

I agree bud they should teach it and it's frustrating to see fighters jump up fast when they are clearly hurt. Maybe an ego thing for some fighters, embarrassed they've been dropped so maybe think staying down a bit longer makes them look like they are hurt.

[Fray Bentos]

I.lm going to watch again
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here

I don’t know if they teach it but I guess things go out the window sometimes even if they do teach it, we see plenty of fighters jump straight up when knocked down instead of taking a longer count and clearing their heads.

Suppose the reason i have metioned it a couple of times is because i was taught it , and i did teach it , I used it to bring a bit of fun in the gym has well suppose you could call it silly moment , everyone would arms out , spin around like little kids , when too dizzy to stand , fall down , when i started counting , take a knee , and get up on the count of 8 , the kids especielly loved it , because they were encouraged to laugh at the older guys if they could'nt get up or were just too dizzy , brought a bit of fun into training .

,, But like all training there was the element of seriousness , NOTHING and i mean NOTHING should ever be happenning for the first time in the ring , it was a form of losing your equibliem and balance and recovering , , . One paticular lad i trained in an ameteur championsship , took a big hit , took the knee till 8 , then for the coming onslaught that he knew was coming because it had been discussed to death in the gym , met his opponent with a wicked left hook from hell and won that title by ko,, he said after and still says to this day nearly 30 years later , that taking the knee , expecting the onslaught was what won him that fight . ,, out of curiosity i rang around a few trainers i know today and asked if they do it in the gym every one of them said NO , couple laughed thought it was silly , couple said what a great idea we will try it .

But your correct most fighters will jump straight up before they are ready , this has i was taught then taught myself is to learn you NOT to do that , its a count , its happenning so USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE ... lIKE I ALWAYS SAY , FIRST TIME anything happens in the ring you have to be prepared for it in the gym

That is actually an amazing idea! Never heard of it before!

[Controversial]

I listened to Bunce on 5 Live today and they were talking about this fight. He went into Cameron's changing room after the fight to chat to him, as they were chatting Whittaker's dad walked into Cameron's room and interrupted Liam talking to Bunce and you could hear them chatting, Bunce left the mic on. Whittaker's dad thanked Liam for helping them sell the rematch, a reminder that it all boils down to money and often all the talk beforehand means nothing. Bunce also had a bit of a dig at Lee Eaton (Camerons manager) as he was also heard laughing saying he was going to get rid of the wheelchair. I looked Eaton up and he has a post on Twitter posing with a wheelchair asking who wants to buy it. Poor taste from someone in the industry, they should know better.