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rd350lc wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 14:25

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 13:55

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 07:50

Funny but that was my thought too. I'm surrounded by fat fuckers going on about being on that and how brilliant it is. They could eat less and do some exercise but no, they want to stab themselves with a chemical and tell you about "food noise" and how they've lost 3 stone while still looking like a big fatso with a gaunt skull-like face.

it is rife in our gym, and the amount of people buying it black market with no research is scary.

In terms of Whyte, the gloves are off interview was good, Whyte seems to be in a good place mentally and they were both respectful, there is so much to like about Itauma, zero trash talking is a good thing from me.

Agreed about Itauma and zero trash talking, proves people will watch good quality fighters without the pantomime.

Also if he does lose it'll be others placing great pressure on him to be something special and not himself, he seems quite and respectful.

Definitely, let's hope he moves at his own pace. You can tell he has not finished developing physically yet too which bodes even better as he'll likely be even stronger when he has. Very unique upbringing too, not many Slovakian-Nigerian-Brits, sounds like he/his family experienced lots of racism in Slovakia which whilst horrific has probably helped his resolve/experience for one so young. I hope the fight is a good one, really excited for it.

Itauma is another hypejob, put him in with Wardley rather than an over the hill Whyte.

IRONFIST wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 10:32 Itauma is another hypejob, put him in with Wardley rather than an over the hill Whyte.

I don’t think he’s is a hype job and I think he would take Wardleys chin for a walk

Moses is the chosen one, a warrior from the future and he’s gonna be heavyweight champion.
I mean come on, it’s not that hard for a big guy who can punch to get a belt just now, as long as they’re split up as per usual.

It doesn’t matter what the Turkey wants: he’s playing checkers and frank plays chess - he’ll talk him round - because he’s not going to put him in with Usyk. I mean, why hand the chosen one a nailed on loss when you don’t have to? It’ll be someone like Joseph Parker, send him out to pick up a belt then bring him back for Moses to dispatch. Sorry big Joe, you’re just “the messenger”, and that solid gold chin’s been cracked quite a few times already.

Or the big Slav lump who’s 55 years old - although I think Ward had him already lined up as main course plus starter.

I didn’t watch it all, but that looked an incredibly awkward interview with our best boy Barry Jones and big Dill, who at least looks like he’s enjoying himself before getting annihilated inside a round on Saturday night

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 21:43

Steveh583 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 19:48

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 07:50

Funny but that was my thought too. I'm surrounded by fat fuckers going on about being on that and how brilliant it is. They could eat less and do some exercise but no, they want to stab themselves with a chemical and tell you about "food noise" and how they've lost 3 stone while still looking like a big fatso with a gaunt skull-like face.

bound to be massive health repercussions.

Being in reasonable shape isn't hard. If you're clinically obese it's because you're weak, lazy and lack discipline. Everybody wants some sort of shortcut for something that takes any degree of effort. That I know so many waddling pigs who see it as miracle cure when all they have to do really is walk places and not stuff their fat faces with junk is an unfortunate sign of the times we live in.

Being cut up and having a 6 pack is different. I'm talking about people who are extremely overweight and could have dealt with it yonks ago, but didn't care. I'm sure Mounjaro and Ozempic both have some long term issues that we're yet to find out about, for sure.

it really annoys me as well..... that they can now cheat their way to weight loss. I bust my arse training to still look OK at 48, but people in my area are overtaking me in droves cos of it (albeit losing muscle mass and not genuinely fit like me). No justice. But i think as you get older, maintaining muscle is vital so they will struggle unless they supplement it with training.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 11:40

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 21:43

Steveh583 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 19:48
bound to be massive health repercussions.

Being in reasonable shape isn't hard. If you're clinically obese it's because you're weak, lazy and lack discipline. Everybody wants some sort of shortcut for something that takes any degree of effort. That I know so many waddling pigs who see it as miracle cure when all they have to do really is walk places and not stuff their fat faces with junk is an unfortunate sign of the times we live in.

Being cut up and having a 6 pack is different. I'm talking about people who are extremely overweight and could have dealt with it yonks ago, but didn't care. I'm sure Mounjaro and Ozempic both have some long term issues that we're yet to find out about, for sure.

it really annoys me as well..... that they can now cheat their way to weight loss. I bust my arse training to still look OK at 48, but people in my area are overtaking me in droves cos of it (albeit losing muscle mass and not genuinely fit like me). No justice. But i think as you get older, maintaining muscle is vital so they will struggle unless they supplement it with training.

It sounds like you’re in a lot better position than those “overtaking” you mate.

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 21:43

Steveh583 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 19:48

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 07:50

Funny but that was my thought too. I'm surrounded by fat fuckers going on about being on that and how brilliant it is. They could eat less and do some exercise but no, they want to stab themselves with a chemical and tell you about "food noise" and how they've lost 3 stone while still looking like a big fatso with a gaunt skull-like face.

bound to be massive health repercussions.

Being in reasonable shape isn't hard. If you're clinically obese it's because you're weak, lazy and lack discipline. Everybody wants some sort of shortcut for something that takes any degree of effort. That I know so many waddling pigs who see it as miracle cure when all they have to do really is walk places and not stuff their fat faces with junk is an unfortunate sign of the times we live in.

Being cut up and having a 6 pack is different. I'm talking about people who are extremely overweight and could have dealt with it yonks ago, but didn't care. I'm sure Mounjaro and Ozempic both have some long term issues that we're yet to find out about, for sure.

From the people I have seen who have used it and used it for a long time the external side effect I've seen is that their heads look slightly weird. It is a strange look.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 11:40

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 21:43

Steveh583 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 19:48
bound to be massive health repercussions.

Being in reasonable shape isn't hard. If you're clinically obese it's because you're weak, lazy and lack discipline. Everybody wants some sort of shortcut for something that takes any degree of effort. That I know so many waddling pigs who see it as miracle cure when all they have to do really is walk places and not stuff their fat faces with junk is an unfortunate sign of the times we live in.

Being cut up and having a 6 pack is different. I'm talking about people who are extremely overweight and could have dealt with it yonks ago, but didn't care. I'm sure Mounjaro and Ozempic both have some long term issues that we're yet to find out about, for sure.

it really annoys me as well..... that they can now cheat their way to weight loss. I bust my arse training to still look OK at 48, but people in my area are overtaking me in droves cos of it (albeit losing muscle mass and not genuinely fit like me). No justice. But i think as you get older, maintaining muscle is vital so they will struggle unless they supplement it with training.

Having and maintaining good muscle mass is long term the healthy option. I was reading about the coalition between having developed thigh and calf muscles and heart health - so don't skip leg day

Ring Walk is at 1020pm for the main event. bit late for a fight that will only appeal to British fans

KiwiRider wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 13:55

Steveh583 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 11:40

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 21:43

Being in reasonable shape isn't hard. If you're clinically obese it's because you're weak, lazy and lack discipline. Everybody wants some sort of shortcut for something that takes any degree of effort. That I know so many waddling pigs who see it as miracle cure when all they have to do really is walk places and not stuff their fat faces with junk is an unfortunate sign of the times we live in.

Being cut up and having a 6 pack is different. I'm talking about people who are extremely overweight and could have dealt with it yonks ago, but didn't care. I'm sure Mounjaro and Ozempic both have some long term issues that we're yet to find out about, for sure.

it really annoys me as well..... that they can now cheat their way to weight loss. I bust my arse training to still look OK at 48, but people in my area are overtaking me in droves cos of it (albeit losing muscle mass and not genuinely fit like me). No justice. But i think as you get older, maintaining muscle is vital so they will struggle unless they supplement it with training.

Having and maintaining good muscle mass is long term the healthy option. I was reading about the coalition between having developed thigh and calf muscles and heart health - so don't skip leg day

yeah i read that. I think its to do with the amount of old people who die from falls.

Kilburn wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 12:30

Steveh583 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 11:40

Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 21:43

Being in reasonable shape isn't hard. If you're clinically obese it's because you're weak, lazy and lack discipline. Everybody wants some sort of shortcut for something that takes any degree of effort. That I know so many waddling pigs who see it as miracle cure when all they have to do really is walk places and not stuff their fat faces with junk is an unfortunate sign of the times we live in.

Being cut up and having a 6 pack is different. I'm talking about people who are extremely overweight and could have dealt with it yonks ago, but didn't care. I'm sure Mounjaro and Ozempic both have some long term issues that we're yet to find out about, for sure.

it really annoys me as well..... that they can now cheat their way to weight loss. I bust my arse training to still look OK at 48, but people in my area are overtaking me in droves cos of it (albeit losing muscle mass and not genuinely fit like me). No justice. But i think as you get older, maintaining muscle is vital so they will struggle unless they supplement it with training.

It sounds like you’re in a lot better position than those “overtaking” you mate.

yea. tbf i wouldnt swap with them for a quick fix. my problem is i cant seem to train and shift weight at the same time. i either have to train and maintain, or stop training and diet. and i like going to the boxing gym/bjj purely for stress relief.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 14:34

KiwiRider wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 13:55

Steveh583 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 11:40

it really annoys me as well..... that they can now cheat their way to weight loss. I bust my arse training to still look OK at 48, but people in my area are overtaking me in droves cos of it (albeit losing muscle mass and not genuinely fit like me). No justice. But i think as you get older, maintaining muscle is vital so they will struggle unless they supplement it with training.

Having and maintaining good muscle mass is long term the healthy option. I was reading about the coalition between having developed thigh and calf muscles and heart health - so don't skip leg day

yeah i read that. I think its to do with the amount of old people who die from falls.

I think it's the ability to still kick arse

Dillian Whyte: I've been written off my whole life; Moses Itauma fight is no different

Dillian Whyte has been boxing long enough to have seen plenty of young heavyweights come and go; the next big thing who fades away before living up to the hype.

But on Aug. 16 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia against Moses Itauma, Whyte (31-3, 21 KOs) will face a fighter almost unanimously considered to be the next face of the division.

It is a classic potential changing of the guard fight.

Itauma (12-0, 10 KOs) is taking a step up against the veteran Whyte who has been in with almost every top fighter of the last 10 years, coming close, but never quite winning a world title. The Brixton boxer insists he is not done yet, and has no issue coming into the fight as the underdog.

"We've seen it time and again where all these guys built up, they're knocking everybody out, they're contenders, prospects," Whyte told media ahead of the fight.

"Sometimes these guys get rushed or sometimes they get blown out of proportion and then things go wrong. It's heavyweight boxing... It's unpredictable. I believe in myself. Listen, I'm getting written off, but this isn't new. Even when I was beating these guys as a No. 1 contender I was still getting written off.

"Not just in boxing, my whole life I've been written off. Obviously my background, where I've come from, I ain't got no amateur pedigree. I never had no big promoter. I've done stuff the hard way."

While he may not have a world title to his name, Whyte is in many ways a winner regardless of how the rest of his career unfolds.

He was born "in the middle of a hurricane" in Jamaica which blew the roof of his mum's house before he moved to south London as a child. Whyte says as a boy, he sold glass bottles and fruit in an attempt to make money. He eventually turned to boxing, which "saved [his] life."

With all he has done and been through, you could forgive him for walking off into the sunset.

But that itch is still there.

A win over Itauma would put him back in contention to fight bigger names one last time before he eventually does hang up the gloves.

Whyte's career has been stop-start since he failed a drugs test ahead of the scheduled rematch against Anthony Joshua in 2023. He was cleared after it was found the result was due to a contaminated supplement.

A fight against Joe Joyce in April also fell through after he suffered a hand injury in training.

Now older and wiser, the 37-year-old is reflective ahead of his next battle.

"The last three years have been frustrating. I had a handful of fights here and there, been out in the wilderness, but that's life" Whyte says.

"As I get older you realise that life has been ups and down. We ain't young here. Just cracking on and thinking you've got all the time in the world and just living life and taking stuff for granted, you know what I mean?

"But as you get older and things happen and things teach you that you can't take nothing for granted."

Presser today

smiling assassin wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 10:48

IRONFIST wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 10:32 Itauma is another hypejob, put him in with Wardley rather than an over the hill Whyte.

I don’t think he’s is a hype job and I think he would take Wardleys chin for a walk

Well maybe we can find out if he gets past old man Whyte first..

The hype around Itauma is completely out of control, but it's not that that I think will be his undoing. I think he's saying the wrong things and comes across like he's the best in the world already. Between that and having Ben (good trainer, bad corner man) Davison is his corner, will be his undoing.

I’ve never really watched his interviews or listened to him.

Does he hype himself up as much as people do?

Probably a silly question but has Whyte actually trained for this fight rather than just stuffing himself with food? Around 11/1 for him to win by stoppage might be worth a couple of quid. Let's see what he tips the scale at, I guess 20 stones plus

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 06:54 I’ve never really watched his interviews or listened to him.

Does he hype himself up as much as people do?

I just find him very nonchalant.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 07:02

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 06:54 I’ve never really watched his interviews or listened to him.

Does he hype himself up as much as people do?

I just find him very nonchalant.

Has he got character? Is he being well media trained?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 07:10

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 07:02

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 06:54 I’ve never really watched his interviews or listened to him.

Does he hype himself up as much as people do?

I just find him very nonchalant.

Has he got character? Is he being well media trained?

Don't know mate, it's probably all in my head. It'll be interesting to see share a ring with someone who makes it a competitive fight.