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tomasiomch
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¿Why is the IBO considered a legitimate title for some and not for others?

Post by tomasiomch »

As far as I know the only legitimate world titles are the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO.. Now it doesn't make any sense that the IBO is only recognized when someone like Klitschko or Joshua among a few others win that title, yet when fighters like Erislandy Lara or Chris Eubank jr among a bunch of other fighters that have won that title goes unrecognized(it doesn't appear on their record like a legitimate title)..Every fighter should get treated the same well known or not, but a certain title can't be good for some and not good for others..Personally I think there are already too many world titles with the main 4 that are there already (I believe there should only be one, but that's just Me) but if more legitimate world titles are created soon there will be more world champions than contenders..
sweetsci
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by sweetsci »

I think what perplexes me is how the moderators are not acknowledging users' concerns (except for one who's answer was "who cares?").

I really miss the knockout counts when you click on "view this bout". I've posted about this at least twice and received no response. Others have posted about this and other concerns and gotten little or no response.

Which makes me wonder if these aren't glitches at all, but rather steps toward some sort of pay subscription system where subscribers pay to access ALL the data that was here before. In that context, the lack of acknowledgement would make sense. I hope I'm wrong. But as a 15 year registered user of Boxrec, I'd likely pay a subscription fee. Grudgingly.

Edit - But then, is it right of me to expect all of this fabulous information for free? THANK YOU BoxRec contributors for all of the time and research you've put in to making this site the incredibly valuable resource that it is.
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

sweetsci wrote:I think what perplexes me is how the moderators are not acknowledging users' concerns (except for one who's answer was "who cares?").

I really miss the knockout counts when you click on "view this bout". I've posted about this at least twice and received no response. Others have posted about this and other concerns and gotten little or no response.

Which makes me wonder if these aren't glitches at all, but rather steps toward some sort of pay subscription system where subscribers pay to access ALL the data that was here before. In that context, the lack of acknowledgement would make sense. I hope I'm wrong. But as a 15 year registered user of Boxrec, I'd likely pay a subscription fee. Grudgingly.

Edit - But then, is it right of me to expect all of this fabulous information for free? THANK YOU BoxRec contributors for all of the time and research you've put in to making this site the incredibly valuable resource that it is.
You're right. The KO counts haven't been addressed. Nothing about the idea to show the ranking at the time the fights.
Honestly, I won't really be about this site again if it goes to subscription. We should be able to look up boxers records without that. Not even orgs like the RING, ESPN or TBRB do that so why here? People would simply go elsewhere despite not having the extensive ranking Boxrec has.
FightFan1912
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by FightFan1912 »

sweetsci wrote:I think what perplexes me is how the moderators are not acknowledging users' concerns (except for one who's answer was "who cares?").

I really miss the knockout counts when you click on "view this bout". I've posted about this at least twice and received no response. Others have posted about this and other concerns and gotten little or no response.
This is what's frustrating me more than anything as well. The guys here do a great job but it would be nice for them to at least akknowledge that they're looking into it and not just ignoring it. I've been posting about the missing KO stats since page 7 of this fourm and still no further on, plus seperate PMs to the mods without a response.

It looks like the figures are missing as an oversight as the table row and the word 'KO' still appears. The data was all there previously so shouldn't be a hard issue to resolve if someone would just take the time to listen to this.
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

The site needs to return to it's previous format along with show the ranking at the time. I like that they showed what number fight and what the records were like back then.
prewarboxing
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by prewarboxing »

What the hell have you done to the site? It worked perfectly before this update. It is really frustrating just trying to get basic info now.
PeterJal
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View first unread post

Post by PeterJal »

I must be blind...now I see a view first unread option at the top of the thread on the left hand side once you get into the thread...click it & it jumps to my last unread post...
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Re: View first unread post

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PeterJal wrote:I must be blind...now I see a view first unread option at the top of the thread on the left hand side once you get into the thread...click it & it jumps to my last unread post...
Check your user control panel. Board preferences >Edit display options e.g. Display topics from previous days - Descending and Display posts from previous days Ascending and Submit
FightFan1912
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by FightFan1912 »

Still no movement on the missing KO stats on the Bout Page. That was over a month ago I asked about it.

Not even a "we're aware of this issue and are looking in to it but it will take 'x' number of weeks to sort". Just nothing, no acknowledgment at all :brick:
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

Not trying to be rude, but do the admins ever read these and reply really? These complaints have been going on for weeks and no change or answer at least.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by AntonS »

StarLord25 wrote:Not trying to be rude, but do the admins ever read these and reply really? These complaints have been going on for weeks and no change or answer at least.
Yes, admins do as do guys like me, that have been around since its Boxrec's nappy days.
Some just simply need to take time to adjust current era, and then it depends whether viewing site via PC or Mobile. Most whingers are Mobile users with limited knowledge how to operate the frigging thing.
I suggest to Mobile users, you ditch what relates to Boxrec & download again.
Myth
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Myth »

The homepage should be set up kind of like SB Nation. Where it's news articles about different boxing stories. So people can stay up to speed on what's happening. I do love your watchlist, and how it tells me when my fighters next fight is. Want more readable news.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Myth »

You should have a section that lists the current champions in each weight class.
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

AntonS wrote:
StarLord25 wrote:Not trying to be rude, but do the admins ever read these and reply really? These complaints have been going on for weeks and no change or answer at least.
Yes, admins do as do guys like me, that have been around since its Boxrec's nappy days.
Some just simply need to take time to adjust current era, and then it depends whether viewing site via PC or Mobile. Most whingers are Mobile users with limited knowledge how to operate the frigging thing.
I suggest to Mobile users, you ditch what relates to Boxrec & download again.
The KOs still aren't showing when you go to view the bout. It was much user friendly when you could view the tale of the tapes without going all the way to another page.
FightFan1912
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by FightFan1912 »

StarLord25 wrote:
AntonS wrote:
StarLord25 wrote:Not trying to be rude, but do the admins ever read these and reply really? These complaints have been going on for weeks and no change or answer at least.
Yes, admins do as do guys like me, that have been around since its Boxrec's nappy days.
Some just simply need to take time to adjust current era, and then it depends whether viewing site via PC or Mobile. Most whingers are Mobile users with limited knowledge how to operate the frigging thing.
I suggest to Mobile users, you ditch what relates to Boxrec & download again.
The KOs still aren't showing when you go to view the bout. It was much user friendly when you could view the tale of the tapes without going all the way to another page.
This. Good to see someone else understands the issue.

Like StarLord said I'm not trying to be rude either but this simply hasn't been addressed by the admins. This has nothing to do with adjusting to the new layout - the KO stats simply aren't there. Equally this has nothing to do with mobiles, it doesn't appear on desktop versions of the site either. The field from the database than contained those figues hasn't been added back in - can someone please look into this.

+1 from me also that the tale of the tape was better as a dropdown in the current window and not a seperate page.

Thanks
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

FightFan1912 wrote:
StarLord25 wrote:
AntonS wrote:Yes, admins do as do guys like me, that have been around since its Boxrec's nappy days.
Some just simply need to take time to adjust current era, and then it depends whether viewing site via PC or Mobile. Most whingers are Mobile users with limited knowledge how to operate the frigging thing.
I suggest to Mobile users, you ditch what relates to Boxrec & download again.
The KOs still aren't showing when you go to view the bout. It was much user friendly when you could view the tale of the tapes without going all the way to another page.
This. Good to see someone else understands the issue.

Like StarLord said I'm not trying to be rude either but this simply hasn't been addressed by the admins. This has nothing to do with adjusting to the new layout - the KO stats simply aren't there. Equally this has nothing to do with mobiles, it doesn't appear on desktop versions of the site either. The field from the database than contained those figues hasn't been added back in - can someone please look into this.

+1 from me also that the tale of the tape was better as a dropdown in the current window and not a seperate page.

Thanks
Exactly, I'm using PC and issue is still here. I'm disappointed in how all this seems to be ignored. And it'd be a nice addition if they'd show the fighters ranking at the time of a fight rather than what they're ranked now. Or showing current ranking and ranking at the time would be cool. The KOs are still missing from this new format.
sindyciaray
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by sindyciaray »

I don't completely understand what you mean, but have an idea.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by AntonS »

StarLord25 wrote:
FightFan1912 wrote:
StarLord25 wrote: The KOs still aren't showing when you go to view the bout. It was much user friendly when you could view the tale of the tapes without going all the way to another page.
This. Good to see someone else understands the issue.

Like StarLord said I'm not trying to be rude either but this simply hasn't been addressed by the admins. This has nothing to do with adjusting to the new layout - the KO stats simply aren't there. Equally this has nothing to do with mobiles, it doesn't appear on desktop versions of the site either. The field from the database than contained those figues hasn't been added back in - can someone please look into this.

+1 from me also that the tale of the tape was better as a dropdown in the current window and not a seperate page.

Thanks
Exactly, I'm using PC and issue is still here. I'm disappointed in how all this seems to be ignored. And it'd be a nice addition if they'd show the fighters ranking at the time of a fight rather than what they're ranked now. Or showing current ranking and ranking at the time would be cool. The KOs are still missing from this new format.
Rankings/Ratings change every day, because it depends on other combatant's (in same weight class) activity & subsequent result. Bottom line....Boxrec is about record keeping and not commentators & scribes baby sitter....... :-P
FightFan1912
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by FightFan1912 »

AntonS wrote:Boxrec is about record keeping and not commentators & scribes baby sitter....... :-P
Correct and the KO Stats are part of their record. At the minute you can see a fighters current KO stat but not what they were for previous bouts when you could before.

For example Floy Mayweather JR has a record of 50-0 27KOs today. How many KO did he have in 1998 going into the Bout with Angel Manfredy in Bout 19? The stats are simply missing.

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StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

AntonS wrote:
StarLord25 wrote:
FightFan1912 wrote:
This. Good to see someone else understands the issue.

Like StarLord said I'm not trying to be rude either but this simply hasn't been addressed by the admins. This has nothing to do with adjusting to the new layout - the KO stats simply aren't there. Equally this has nothing to do with mobiles, it doesn't appear on desktop versions of the site either. The field from the database than contained those figues hasn't been added back in - can someone please look into this.

+1 from me also that the tale of the tape was better as a dropdown in the current window and not a seperate page.

Thanks
Exactly, I'm using PC and issue is still here. I'm disappointed in how all this seems to be ignored. And it'd be a nice addition if they'd show the fighters ranking at the time of a fight rather than what they're ranked now. Or showing current ranking and ranking at the time would be cool. The KOs are still missing from this new format.
Rankings/Ratings change every day, because it depends on other combatant's (in same weight class) activity & subsequent result. Bottom line....Boxrec is about record keeping and not commentators & scribes baby sitter....... :-P
No duh that ratings change everyday hence why I differentiated between current and what was there at the time. If Boxrec is merely about record keeping not so called 'scribes and commentators' why show the current ranking then? Why show ratings to begin with? Why before were you showing your KO numbers on the tale of the tape if it really is all about records?
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

FightFan1912 wrote:
AntonS wrote:Boxrec is about record keeping and not commentators & scribes baby sitter....... :-P
Correct and the KO Stats are part of their record. At the minute you can see a fighters current KO stat but not what they were for previous bouts when you could before.

For example Floy Mayweather JR has a record of 50-0 27KOs today. How many KO did he have in 1998 going into the Bout with Angel Manfredy in Bout 19? The stats are simply missing.

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We know Manfredy for example was ranked higher than that when he fought Floyd. So I don't see the difficulty in taking a shot of the ranking at the time and putting it there. The rating points they had at the time give you an idea but no showing the ranking at the time is good too. Hence they show what the numbers on their record was at time so why opposed to the ranking.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Tomasino »

Wow. They have ruined the record keeping site. It's so user unfriendly now. Why on earth did it change it was fine before?

Fix it or you'll lose your traffic, as it's utter shite now
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by asdfjkl »

In scheduled fights, I can't see ratings on my phone, neither when I press the button to turn this option on.
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

asdfjkl wrote:In scheduled fights, I can't see ratings on my phone, neither when I press the button to turn this option on.
Don't bother, they don't career about the viewers clearly.
StarLord25
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by StarLord25 »

Thank you BoxRec for including the number of KOs.
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