Berbick did a so silly mistake of fighting Tyson's fight and trying to return the favor of aggression to Tyson. Of course, if he tried to box, he would still lose this fight, but he could at least not end up KOed. Tyson was more effective in the exchanges because of his speed advantage. Berbick was rocked at the end of the 1st and finished off in the 2nd.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 02:19
by oogiebe
Steven Luevano vs. Mario Santiago
Geez, a classic back and forth action fight old'ish vs young; KD for KD; each one rocked several times...great fight. Crazy scoring too. Worth a watch. Never thought it would go the distance. A undercard gem in the rough on an HBO card featuring Manny Paq and the Humberto Soto vs. Francisco Lorenzo fiasco.
Just a taste:
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 08:42
by Counter-puncher
sounds good thanks, I'll check that out later
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 16:25
by Syntax Error
DrDuke wrote: ↑03 Dec 2020, 12:51
Mike Tyson vs Marvis Frazier
Tyson jumped on Marvis and tried to run through him. Marvis felt the power from the first seconds and couldn't suggest anything to being backed up in the corners and to the ropes. Marvis' brief attemps of getting out of this situation weren't successful. Tyson ultimately cornered Marvis with a series of jabs and scored with a sequence of right uppercuts knocking Marvis out cold.
Tyson was terrifying in that fight and that's from the perspective of someone watching it on TV.
Goodness knows how poor Frazier felt.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 21:23
by DrDuke
Syntax Error wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 16:25
Goodness knows how poor Frazier felt.
I doubt he was able to understand much that had happened then.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 06 Dec 2020, 17:58
by f read
Just watched Salvador Sanchez-Wilfredo Gomez from August 21 1981. Great matchup Gomez was even a 2-1 favorite going in. Sanchez totally dominated and stopped Bazooka in the 8th round. This was a great fight and then 1 month later Leonard-Hearns 1. It does not get no better than this. This was the heyday from professional boxing.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 00:06
by Petu v.d. Pajm
Tyrone "Harlem Butcher" Jackson versus
1) ex-amateur standout Floyd Favors
2) Tex-Mex Wilmer Ruiz, who came in 18-0 in fights held in Harlingen/Brownsville/Matamoros-triangle & 0-3 elsewhere.
3) Phil Charleston/Clarson, a mystery man who is representing Dave Gorman's gym for this fight but apparently fought out of Guam for a while too... Only 1-0 in BoxRec, but 10-3-1 according to broadcast.
All good see-saw battles, which showed Jackson's basic traits. Rather slow hands, unimaginative style, but also a seriously heavy right hand - whether thrown in overhand or uppercut form.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 04:56
by handsofstone
Michael Moorer vs Axel Schulz
Moorer beats Schulz by SD to win the vacant World Heavyweight title, close fight, uneventful though, Moorer's southpaw jab was crucial in getting the win, Schulz has some success with his own jab but Moorer was busier and more accurate with his along with some nice uppercuts on the inside, Schulz grew into the fight the later it went, does the basics well, has that European style but he just didn't enough to win, no drama but a deserved win for Moorer, worked harder and wanted it more
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 05:00
by DrDuke
handsofstone wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 04:56
Michael Moorer vs Axel Schulz
Moorer beats Schulz by SD to win the vacant World Heavyweight title, close fight, uneventful though, Moorer's southpaw jab was crucial in getting the win, Schulz has some success with his own jab but Moorer was busier and more accurate with his along with some nice uppercuts on the inside, Schulz grew into the fight the later it went, does the basics well, has that European style but he just didn't enough to win, no drama but a deserved win for Moorer, worked harder and wanted it more
I wouldn't call it close enough to be a SD.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 05:13
by AntonioMartin
f read wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020, 17:58
Just watched Salvador Sanchez-Wilfredo Gomez from August 21 1981. Great matchup Gomez was even a 2-1 favorite going in. Sanchez totally dominated and stopped Bazooka in the 8th round. This was a great fight and then 1 month later Leonard-Hearns 1. It does not get no better than this. This was the heyday from professional boxing.
I see those fights a lot! Specially Sanchez-Gomez. Sanchez dominated, but Gomez was there trying his darnest to turn the fight around, throwing along with Sanchez until right before the end. That's what made it such an action packed fight.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 08 Dec 2020, 11:29
by DrDuke
Mike Tyson vs Tyrell Biggs
Biggs was another Ali-wannabe of the 80s, but he was able to dance only for a round, while it wasn't possible to give any of them to Biggs. Tyson jabbed well, not highly effective in scoring, but effective as a set up for coming closer. Tyson was landing a lot of good punches on the ways in. Tyson was easily neutralized inside, but still he was landing enough from the mid-range. After the 3rd round Biggs already was battered, cut and frustrated. Tyson landed quite an amount of left hooks. This punch was crucial in KOing Biggs in the 7th.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 08 Dec 2020, 15:59
by Caractacus
couldn't believe the great quality of this video-in watching it,It's almost like you were there at ringside !
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 08 Dec 2020, 16:59
by DrDuke
Mike Tyson vs Larry Holmes
Holmes did a mistake with signing to this fight not only because he was old, but also rusty. He even returned a little bit of him in his further bouts, vs Mercer and Holyfield, but against Tyson he wasn't there. Well, on the other hand, he couldn't miss such opportunity. So, Holmes started the fight in a very passive way. Tyson was pressing forward and scoring. In the 3rd Holmes woke up a bit, bit still Tyson was looking better. A one-two, which sent Holmes down for the first time in the next round, looked spectacular.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 03:34
by AntonioMartin
Bobby Czyz versus David Sears....Czyz at his finest.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 05:07
by handsofstone
Michael Moorer vs Frans Botha
Moorer stops Botha in the 12th and final round to retain his World Heavyweight title, solid start from Moorer, got the southpaw jab going early and rocked Botha in thr 3rd, unloaded whilst Botha held on for dear life, Moorer switched off though and allowed Botha to come into things and land shots he shouldnt really be landing, Botha began to look shattered though and Moorer came back into things late on, hurting Botha with jolting jabs and pushing him back, Botha showed some heart to keep fighting back though
Moorer finally got to Botha in the 11th dropping him twice, first doubling up the right hook for a KD then another right hook had Botha down again as the bell went, Botha came out for the 12th but he was still shook up, Moorer hit him with a clean left seconds into the round and the ref stepped in
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 05:35
by DrDuke
handsofstone wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 05:07
Michael Moorer vs Frans Botha
A hard fight for Moorer. Botha never was anything special, but in the 90s he was tough.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 10:45
by DrDuke
Mike Tyson vs Tony Tubbs
Tubbs provided some solid counteraction to Tyson, before he got KOed in the 2nd round. Tubbs was ready to box both from the outside and the inside, both upstairs and downstairs. During the 2nd round Lampley said: "Tubbs isn't intimidated by Tyson's Fury", it's ironic to hear this phrase nowdays. So, Tubbs did well in the 1st rd and he tried to develop the success in the 2nd, but he wasn't prepared defensively as good as offencively. He ate good left hook from inside and then Tyson's trademark right to the body - right uppercut to the head. And later on, after the fighters got separated from clinch, Tubbs did a mastake with coming inside without any punches. Tubbs was caught on the way in with a left hook and was KOed.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 11:51
by DrDuke
Mike Tyson vs Michael Spinks
Watched some parts of the entire program, which is 3 hours long and covers pre- and post-fight mess, featuring wars of Cayton and Rooney against the bunch of scumbags King, Givens and her mom.
And the 91 seconds themselves I watched in the HQ version.
Actually, usually professional high level athletes aren't afraid of fighting the other ones in the ring and all that talk about "being scared of" is mostly a bravada of fighters or cheap talk of fans, but that particular time Spinks indeed looked like he sh!tted his pants. He wasn't composed during those 91 seconds, he was looking not restrained, but fettered.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 13:23
by DrDuke
Mike Tyson vs Frank Bruno I
A rough fight. The first fight of Tyson after the split with Rooney. Tyson already was declined. Tyson was more primitive than usually, he jabbed his way inside less, he swinged more, he was headhunting more. Still he was able to crush Bruno, although Bruno rocked Tyson with a left hook in the 1st rd during a wild exchange. Yet Bruno seemed dangerous only for the first two rounds. Bruno did a lot of holding, hitting to a back of the head, holding and hitting. Tyson also showed some dirty tricks, as he elbowed Bruno inside. The KO onslaught on Bruno looked spectacular.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 14:35
by DrDuke
Mike Tyson vs Carl Williams
Williams was a solid boxer of his times, but it was a bad matchup for him, as he had been known for being chinny and as he had been decked with left hooks for several occasions before. The HBO commentators were talking about the early left hook KO and exactly this happened. However, the stoppage was premature. Williams got hurt badly indeed, but he beat the count and wasn't wobbly. Williams likely could fight after that. Even later, after Tyson bout, Williams was able to have a brief success in the Morrison bout, after he had been knocked down there, even though eventually he still was stopped. Anyway, he would have been stopped against Tyson in a case of the fight continuing, so the actual stoppage was premature only technically.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Dec 2020, 15:45
by DrDuke
Mike Tyson vs Buster Douglas
Apart from suffering a KD, Douglas' performance was for boxing textbooks.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 04:54
by handsofstone
David Tua vs Michael Moorer
Tua KOs Moorer 30 seconds into the 1st round, non title fight, about as straightforward a win as you'll see anywhere, Tua attacks the body backs Moorer on the ropes, nails him with a right which sends Moorer on his way down, a left and another right lands before Moorer's down and he's lying through the ropes finished
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 05:37
by f read
DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020, 16:59
Mike Tyson vs Larry Holmes
Holmes did a mistake with signing to this fight not only because he was old, but also rusty. He even returned a little bit of him in his further bouts, vs Mercer and Holyfield, but against Tyson he wasn't there. Well, on the other hand, he couldn't miss such opportunity. So, Holmes started the fight in a very passive way. Tyson was pressing forward and scoring. In the 3rd Holmes woke up a bit, bit still Tyson was looking better. A one-two, which sent Holmes down for the first time in the next round, looked spectacular.
I met Larry visiting his Round One Club in Easton July 11 1987. That was 6 months before the Tyson fight. In fact the night i met him the Tyson fight was not even signed yet, He was a big imposing man i wanted to talk boxing with him but he was more interested in flirting with the women.
DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020, 16:59
Mike Tyson vs Larry Holmes
Holmes did a mistake with signing to this fight not only because he was old, but also rusty. He even returned a little bit of him in his further bouts, vs Mercer and Holyfield, but against Tyson he wasn't there. Well, on the other hand, he couldn't miss such opportunity. So, Holmes started the fight in a very passive way. Tyson was pressing forward and scoring. In the 3rd Holmes woke up a bit, bit still Tyson was looking better. A one-two, which sent Holmes down for the first time in the next round, looked spectacular.
I met Larry visiting his Round One Club in Easton July 11 1987. That was 6 months before the Tyson fight. In fact the night i met him the Tyson fight was not even signed yet, He was a big imposing man i wanted to talk boxing with him but he was more interested in flirting with the women.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 09:17
by littlepug
DrDuke wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 15:45
Mike Tyson vs Buster Douglas
Apart from suffering a KD, Douglas' performance was for boxing textbooks.
It really was, sub par Tyson or not Douglas was a joy to watch that night, he was practically perfect.