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kikibalt wrote:diego,

Ask him what his uncles are doing now days, are they ok?, where are they living?

Frank
The way the kid was talkin' they have plenty of life left in them. I'll use a little leverage on him. He's a big fan. His uncles used to take him to the fights when he was a pup. I think he saw one of your sons fight. He still sees his uncles.

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Here you go, diego.

Frank
Thanks for showing those pictures again. I'm going to show that kid tomorrow the pictures of his uncle. I think that will turn the trick.

diego,

Both Cotero's were very, very exciting fighters, good banger both were,
I seen both fight a few times at both the Olympic and Hollywood Legion.

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Bobby had all tools to have been a top fighter, but he fell to drug like lots of fighters before and after him have.

He reminded me so much of Keeny Teran in boxing style.

That pic. I shot at the National AAU Junior Olympic Tournament at St. Norbert College, Green Bay-Depere, Wi., same year that Richie Sandoval and my son Tony won the nationals, that year our team won 4 championships, Jack Padilla from NoCal been the other one.

Man I dont know what the hell it is about fighters and drugs and alcohol.
I know the dangers of the sauce too.
Typical freakin mick palooka , I worked as the doorman at an Irish bar when I was fightin.
I was also a bakery Driver a little later on , but no doudt I woulda done more if I didnt have such an affinity towards beer . And lots of it.
And of course the wild antics that goes along with that .
Maybe for a boxer drinkin takes some kind of edge off who knows?
But its probably kod as many guys outta the ring as have been kod in it.

Pug,Frank,Scar,any of the other guys
Let's face it,if some of these guys weren't boxing,you wonder what their lives would have been like. If you measured the testosterone levels of a fighter,it would probably register off the charts. Boxing is for the guys who if they ain't fighten',they're f---en. Most fighters I've known act respectable in public,but they don't seem afraid of anything. They act on impulses and if they feel like doing something,they don't hesitate. They don't think of any consequences. They don't see themselves.

I remember Vicky LaMotta took her former husband Jake to see Raging Bull. After the movie was over,she asked him what he thought. His reply.
"Was I really that bad?"
Her answer. "No,you were worse."

Pug,did you ever see how posters,who've never fought, respond to the ex pugs on this Forum like yourself? They're very carefull around you guys. But then again, maybe you don't see it.

Dagos, you are correct about fighters .
Impulsive and afraid of not too much Id say s accurate.
Sometimes it is borderline insane.
I mentioned before when I was a bakery driver , I was robbed at gun point and roughed up by some asshole , in my truck where nobody could see(.A bakery truck has no windows , but its big enough to walk in).
The robber leaves my truck and this is in downtown Chicago in the middle of the day.
I chase him catch him and beat the shit out of the guy.Police arrive and haul him away unconscious.
We go to court and he gets 20 years . He was wanted in 14 other robberies.
The Chicago Sun Times writes a big article by Art Petacque.
Ex Boxer still packs punch suspect finds. Thats the name of the article.
If I knew how to post it I would.
It was in 86 or 87. Its on the wall at home, and my kids who are 10 and 12 are asking me about it all the time.
I tell them it had nothing to do with him takin the 500 in company money off me.
Its when he put his freakin hands on me thats when he was through.

kikibalt wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Here you go, diego.

Frank
Thanks for showing those pictures again. I'm going to show that kid tomorrow the pictures of his uncle. I think that will turn the trick.

diego,

Both Cotero's were very, very exciting fighters, good banger both were,
I seen both fight a few times at both the Olympic and Hollywood Legion.

The kid tells me they live in LA. He's real nice guy this young fella' He coached the girl's softball team to the league championship. You know what I like about the school I'm in? You see the heighborhood kids who didn't have much growing up, except maybe the love of their parents,come back to the district and become teachers and coaches. It's good to see these young fellas' land on their feet. But here's the kicker. When they see these school kids running around,they see themselves when they were young like that. Some of the other teachers who never were brought up like that don't understand, and are really struggling.

Maybe they should do more lovin' and maybe they'll understand.

bennie wrote:

Bennie . . .

Now this is cool, Cus D'Amato's 1947 second's license. 'Ya know, this was issued more than five years prior to Floyd Patterson winning the Olympic Gold Medal as a middleweight in Helsinki, Finland.

Thanks, I love that kinda stuff.


-Rick

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote: Frank
Thanks for showing those pictures again. I'm going to show that kid tomorrow the pictures of his uncle. I think that will turn the trick.

diego,

Both Cotero's were very, very exciting fighters, good banger both were,
I seen both fight a few times at both the Olympic and Hollywood Legion.

The kid tells me they live in LA. He's real nice guy this young fella' He coached the girl's softball team to the league championship. You know what I like about the school I'm in? You see the heighborhood kids who didn't have much growing up, except maybe the love of their parents,come back to the district and become teachers and coaches. It's good to see these young fellas' land on their feet. But here's the kicker. When they see these school kids running around,they see themselves when they were young like that. Some of the other teachers who never were brought up like that don't understand, and are really struggling.

Maybe they should do more lovin' and maybe they'll understand.

Maybe I can get'em inducted into the CBHOF next year, you never know.

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:
Man I dont know what the hell it is about fighters and drugs and alcohol.
I know the dangers of the sauce too.
Typical freakin mick palooka , I worked as the doorman at an Irish bar when I was fightin.
I was also a bakery Driver a little later on , but no doudt I woulda done more if I didnt have such an affinity towards beer . And lots of it.
And of course the wild antics that goes along with that .
Maybe for a boxer drinkin takes some kind of edge off who knows?
But its probably kod as many guys outta the ring as have been kod in it.

Pug,Frank,Scar,any of the other guys
Let's face it,if some of these guys weren't boxing,you wonder what their lives would have been like. If you measured the testosterone levels of a fighter,it would probably register off the charts. Boxing is for the guys who if they ain't fighten',they're f---en. Most fighters I've known act respectable in public,but they don't seem afraid of anything. They act on impulses and if they feel like doing something,they don't hesitate. They don't think of any consequences. They don't see themselves.

I remember Vicky LaMotta took her former husband Jake to see Raging Bull. After the movie was over,she asked him what he thought. His reply.
"Was I really that bad?"
Her answer. "No,you were worse."

Pug,did you ever see how posters,who've never fought, respond to the ex pugs on this Forum like yourself? They're very carefull around you guys. But then again, maybe you don't see it.

Dagos, you are correct about fighters .
Impulsive and afraid of not too much Id say s accurate.
Sometimes it is borderline insane.
I mentioned before when I was a bakery driver , I was robbed at gun point and roughed up by some asshole , in my truck where nobody could see(.A bakery truck has no windows , but its big enough to walk in).
The robber leaves my truck and this is in downtown Chicago in the middle of the day.
I chase him catch him and beat the shit out of the guy.Police arrive and haul him away unconscious.
We go to court and he gets 20 years . He was wanted in 14 other robberies.
The Chicago Sun Times writes a big article by Art Petacque.
Ex Boxer still packs punch suspect finds. Thats the name of the article.
If I knew how to post it I would.
It was in 86 or 87. Its on the wall at home, and my kids who are 10 and 12 are asking me about it all the time.
I tell them it had nothing to do with him takin the 500 in company money off me.
Its when he put his freakin hands on me thats when he was through.

Hey Pug
It's a small world. My grandfather"Diamond Joe" Esposito was a baker when he arrived in Chicago. He was the first baker to deliver bread in Chicago. However he drove a dray. My son in law delivers bread in San Diego. How in the hell can we go on diets? Come to think of it,who in the hell wants to go on a diet? That ain't no fun.

kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.

Frank, this was one of the best little junior amateurs in L.A., back in the late 60's. If I were to name the most professional looking junior golden glovers, when they were little kids, Rizzo would rate among the Baltazar boys, Albert Davila, and just a handful of others, that really impressed me when I was active in the juniors.

These guys stood out, and proof is the fact I still remember how beautiful it was to watch them fight. They all could box, most hit pretty good, and all had a certain magic that kind of defined the best in West, and the best in the world. It was the L.A. charisma of an Aragon, Bolanos & Mando Ramos, on a junior scale.

-Rick

Dagos ,I get hungry just thinking about the stuff Diamond Joe was bringin around.
True Italian bakery goods.Wonderful.
The stuff I delivered was Twinkies and Ho Hos , ding dongs etc.,There ought to be a law against it.
Ive been out of that a long time now thank God.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.

Frank, this was one of the best little junior amateurs in L.A., back in the late 60's. If I were to name the most professional looking junior golden glovers, when they were little kids, Rizzo would rate among the Baltazar boys, Albert Davila, and just a handful of others, that really impressed me when I was active in the juniors.

These guys stood out, and proof is the fact I still remember how beautiful it was to watch them fight. They all could box, most hit pretty good, and all had a certain magic that kind of defined the best in West, and the best in the world. It was the L.A. charisma of an Aragon, Bolanos & Mando Ramos, on a junior scale.

-Rick

Its because they had outstanding people around them.
That made them shine!

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.

Frank, this was one of the best little junior amateurs in L.A., back in the late 60's. If I were to name the most professional looking junior golden glovers, when they were little kids, Rizzo would rate among the Baltazar boys, Albert Davila, and just a handful of others, that really impressed me when I was active in the juniors.

These guys stood out, and proof is the fact I still remember how beautiful it was to watch them fight. They all could box, most hit pretty good, and all had a certain magic that kind of defined the best in West, and the best in the world. It was the L.A. charisma of an Aragon, Bolanos & Mando Ramos, on a junior scale.

-Rick

Rick,

You are right in that Bobby at a very young age fought like a pro, beautiful boxer, and he could bang too.
To bad he had to take a wrong turn, I really think he could have been champ.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.

Frank, this was one of the best little junior amateurs in L.A., back in the late 60's. If I were to name the most professional looking junior golden glovers, when they were little kids, Rizzo would rate among the Baltazar boys, Albert Davila, and just a handful of others, that really impressed me when I was active in the juniors.

These guys stood out, and proof is the fact I still remember how beautiful it was to watch them fight. They all could box, most hit pretty good, and all had a certain magic that kind of defined the best in West, and the best in the world. It was the L.A. charisma of an Aragon, Bolanos & Mando Ramos, on a junior scale.

-Rick

Great last paragraph Rick. You nailed it. Look at that pose. That
expression. I hope the guys back East and across the globe understand the feeling we had out here with the boxing scene. The community. The people who are now getting a little "long in the tooth" like our patriarch. Guys like us Rick got to make people see what that time was about and share the stories our fathers and our "Compadre" have passed down to us. It doesn't deserve to be lost.

Good nite.

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.

Frank, this was one of the best little junior amateurs in L.A., back in the late 60's. If I were to name the most professional looking junior golden glovers, when they were little kids, Rizzo would rate among the Baltazar boys, Albert Davila, and just a handful of others, that really impressed me when I was active in the juniors.

These guys stood out, and proof is the fact I still remember how beautiful it was to watch them fight. They all could box, most hit pretty good, and all had a certain magic that kind of defined the best in West, and the best in the world. It was the L.A. charisma of an Aragon, Bolanos & Mando Ramos, on a junior scale.

-Rick

Rick,

You are right in that Bobby at a very young age fought like a pro, beautiful boxer, and he could bang too.
To bad he had to take a wrong turn, I really think he could have been champ.

Last time I saw Bobby Rizzo, he was a professional and had just come out of prison. He was fighting on TV, and when I heard them announce his name, I almost fell out of my chair. It was the first time I'd seen him since he was a very little boy. I'd never forgot the name, but the guy on the screen was a long way from the kid that I remembered. He could still fight, but his skills were long gone, probably never given a chance to develop.


-Rick Farris

I see his record is in the database here.
He was fightin six rounders right out of the can.
Thats gotta be tough to do.

In the late 60s and early 70s my brother & I boxed out of the PAL gym in S.F. but because the gym was closed on the weekend we trained at Newman's gym in the Tenderloin District where most of the pros trained. Each week we couldn't wait to get there because that was the day all of the old timers would sit around and tell the young bucks old boxing stories and stories about boxers. Each Saturday was the best day of the week, we couldn't wait to get there and our dad could hardly drag us out of there though we know he liked it as much as we did. I can't explain how infactuated I was, or how much I loved to hear those stories and talk to those guys but now because of these 100 pages of boxing stories and stories about boxers each time I turn on my computer I feel like we're heading down to Newman's Gym on a Saturday; keep it going guys and when you think you're running out dig deep and give us some more.
Thank You!

kikibalt wrote:

My 1985 Managers License from the state of Nevada

Cheer up, Frankie. You look about to make a hit.

bennie wrote:Cheer up, Frankie. You look about to make a hit.

LOL!!!

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:
Man I dont know what the hell it is about fighters and drugs and alcohol.
I know the dangers of the sauce too.
Typical freakin mick palooka , I worked as the doorman at an Irish bar when I was fightin.
I was also a bakery Driver a little later on , but no doudt I woulda done more if I didnt have such an affinity towards beer . And lots of it.
And of course the wild antics that goes along with that .
Maybe for a boxer drinkin takes some kind of edge off who knows?
But its probably kod as many guys outta the ring as have been kod in it.

Pug,Frank,Scar,any of the other guys
Let's face it,if some of these guys weren't boxing,you wonder what their lives would have been like. If you measured the testosterone levels of a fighter,it would probably register off the charts. Boxing is for the guys who if they ain't fighten',they're f---en. Most fighters I've known act respectable in public,but they don't seem afraid of anything. They act on impulses and if they feel like doing something,they don't hesitate. They don't think of any consequences. They don't see themselves.

I remember Vicky LaMotta took her former husband Jake to see Raging Bull. After the movie was over,she asked him what he thought. His reply.
"Was I really that bad?"
Her answer. "No,you were worse."

Pug,did you ever see how posters,who've never fought, respond to the ex pugs on this Forum like yourself? They're very carefull around you guys. But then again, maybe you don't see it.

Dagos, you are correct about fighters .
Impulsive and afraid of not too much Id say s accurate.
Sometimes it is borderline insane.
I mentioned before when I was a bakery driver , I was robbed at gun point and roughed up by some asshole , in my truck where nobody could see(.A bakery truck has no windows , but its big enough to walk in).
The robber leaves my truck and this is in downtown Chicago in the middle of the day.
I chase him catch him and beat the shit out of the guy.Police arrive and haul him away unconscious.
We go to court and he gets 20 years . He was wanted in 14 other robberies.
The Chicago Sun Times writes a big article by Art Petacque.
Ex Boxer still packs punch suspect finds. Thats the name of the article.
If I knew how to post it I would.
It was in 86 or 87. Its on the wall at home, and my kids who are 10 and 12 are asking me about it all the time.
I tell them it had nothing to do with him takin the 500 in company money off me.
Its when he put his freakin hands on me thats when he was through.

Nice story. Collapse outside an ambulance station and you wait 10 minutes for an ambulance; this punk learned all about irony himself.

diego just for you


Fettucini Diablo
35 mins.Serves 4
Print PlanSend to MobileGet PodcastIngredients
1 box (16 oz) fettuccini
Kosher salt
Extra-virgin olive oil

2 cloves garlic, minced
2 dried red chiles (or equivalent in crushed red chile flakes)
1 can (28 oz) san marzano tomatoes
1/2 cup torn fresh basil
1 medium onion, finely chopped
1 cup of assorted pitted olives
3 sprigs thyme
1 bay leaf
Extra virgin olive oil
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
Salata ricotta for garnish
Cooking Instructions
Begin with the sauce. Take a large skillet and add a 2-count of olive oil over medium heat. Once you get a shimmer, add the minced garlic and dried red chiles and cook for a minute until fragrant. Add the chopped onion, pitted olives, torn basil leaves, thyme and bay leaf then cook until translucent -- about 2-3 minutes. Strain the san marzano tomatoes and hand crush into a separate bowl, than add to skillet. Bring to boil, turn heat to low and simmer, uncovered for 10 minutes.

Bring a large pot of salted water to a boil to cook the pasta. The salted water should taste like the sea. Cook the fettuccini al dente then drain and dump directly into the diablo sauce. Use a ladle and add some of the pasta water to thin out the sauce if necessary. Season with salt and freshly ground black pepper. Garnish with basil leaves and some shaved salata ricotta.

Frankie: did you ever find out how Jesse Burnett and Zack Padilla are doing these days?

bennie wrote:Frankie: did you ever find out how Jesse Burnett and Zack Padilla are doing these days?

Bennie,

I put out the word, but haven't heard anything back yet.

Jimmy Montoya (L) N.Y.C....1982

Ex-middleweight Rory Calhoun seen here with Tony, can't remember his last name and Tony Baltazar...1970

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

My 1985 Managers License from the state of Nevada

Cheer up, Frankie. You look about to make a hit.

Yeah!, but I'm a nice guy.