Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Man, Ive always liked Dean Martin.
Certain guys music just has the ability to put you in a good mood.
Dean Martin does it for me every time. That guy was great.

Brian, there was an old tag line I used to see on AMC or whatever advertising some old Sean Connery James Bond flicks and I think it is so appropriate whenever it comes to Dean singing or acting (I always loved Dean westerns. Total sucker for Bandolero, Rio Bravo, etc.). Anyway, the tagline was, "Cool never goes out of style."

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As the days gratefully begin to draw out and even one or two cuckoos can be heard (bring on the cider), so we draw closer to Last Chance Saloon for one Audley Harrison. The big southpaw from Harrow, or is it Wembley, or Harlesden, or somewhere in the States – nobody really cares – challenges Poland's gutsy Albert Sosnowski for the European heavyweight title at the famous old Ally Pally in north London on April 9.
Harrison, who failed even to win an English title a couple of years ago, secured his prize in yet another Prizefighter heavyweight event last autumn when he won three bouts in one night, all of them scheduled three-rounders. Audley was pitched right back to his amateur days, which is probably why he won the the damned event. He had mastered the ghastly computer-scoring system in all his years in the unpaid ranks which took him to ABA, Commonwealth and Olympic titles - eventually. He was almost 30 by the time he turned pro on a balmy night in May 2001 against the worst heavyweight I've seen since Chuck Gardner, a red neck by the name of Mike Middleton who you would not want to meet on a canoe trip down a soon-to-be-damned river.
Perhaps Harrison's long-haul success in the amateurs explains why some boxing fans have stayed remarkably patient with him as he proceeded to disappoint or frustrate time and time again in the pros. Harrison, now pushing 39, was flattened by the much smaller but quicker Michael Sprott on his own part-time Wembley patch for the English belt and outgamed by Belfast's gutsy but limited Martin Rogan on the way to a points defeat. He was also outpointed in a dreary affair by Danny Williams - again after tasting the canvas (much to the amusement of promoter F rank Warren) - and to a similar reluctant type in America's Dominick Guinn after 10 dull rounds in California.
Otherwise, it is success all the way for the surly Londoner, but success breeds boredom, in his case. If Harrison does win, he does just enough to win, although he did 'jump' on an out-of-shape Williams in a return and halted him, prematurely I thought (the crowd booed the stoppage). Every dog has its day. Writer Graham Houston says Harrison fights so safety-first because he knows his chin is nothing. Why else would such a huge man with obvious boxing ability, fitness, fast hands and the occasional show of strength and a big shot, prove so reluctant to mix it?
Thankfully, Sosnowski is just the opposite, a true fighting man, a man who makes the most of his ability and opportunities. He grabbed his first opportunity against Williams in London in 2008, a Williams who, this time, was in shape. Danny had trained hard to face John McDermott in a rematch to a controversial first fight. McDermott pulled out injured and in came Sosnowski at desperately short notice and knocked Williams down and out in the eighth round. Today, people say Williams is 'shot'. They weren't saying it before Sosnowski. The 30-year-old Warsaw battler, powerful-looking and a decent banger, if a little stiff in the Frank Bruno mould, stepped up again a fight later when he ventured to Germany and snatched an excellent 12-round draw with the unbeaten Francesco Pianeta. To paraphrase Joe Jacobs, "He wuz robbed!" Pianeta, a giant southpaw like Audley, recently busted up and stopped Matt Skelton, so it really was a fine performance from Sosnowski and earned him a break here for the vacant European title against 39-year-old Italian Paolo Vidoz – a man outscored by Harrison in the 2000 Olympics – and outmuscled by the Pole on the way to a unanimous decision for the big belt last month.
Sosnowski is a modern day Duane Bobick, strong and willing but missing something, somehow. He has a great record against a lot of old men - men as old as Audley – but was held back until the Williams scalp and you wonder why. He will obviously come to win in April but is probably no better than Harrison, who is already making hollow 'feelers' at a crack at WBA heavyweight title David Haye, although Haye has yet another stinking opponent to think about in John Ruiz on April 3 in Manchester (a fight he will undoubtedly win but not necessarily in style).
To conclude, Harrison ranks as the Joe Bugner of the 21st century, thinking more about money than he does the fans. For once in his nine-year career Harrison has to think about the fans, the performance and the title. Even his own mother will finally give up on him if he runs yet again on the way to defeat.

Stevie, just picked up Boxing News' '100 years of Boxing'. A really good read. Also, do yoy know the trainer Brian Hughes?

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[bennie]

As the days gratefully begin to draw out and even one or two cuckoos can be heard (bring on the cider), so we draw closer to Last Chance Saloon for one Audley Harrison. The big southpaw from Harrow, or is it Wembley, or Harlesden, or somewhere in the States – nobody really cares – challenges Poland's gutsy Albert Sosnowski for the European heavyweight title at the famous old Ally Pally in north London on April 9.
Harrison, who failed even to win an English title a couple of years ago, secured his prize in yet another Prizefighter heavyweight event last autumn when he won three bouts in one night, all of them scheduled three-rounders. Audley was pitched right back to his amateur days, which is probably why he won the the damned event. He had mastered the ghastly computer-scoring system in all his years in the unpaid ranks which took him to ABA, Commonwealth and Olympic titles - eventually. He was almost 30 by the time he turned pro on a balmy night in May 2001 against the worst heavyweight I've seen since Chuck Gardner, a red neck by the name of Mike Middleton who you would not want to meet on a canoe trip down a soon-to-be-damned river.
Perhaps Harrison's long-haul success in the amateurs explains why some boxing fans have stayed remarkably patient with him as he proceeded to disappoint or frustrate time and time again in the pros. Harrison, now pushing 39, was flattened by the much smaller but quicker Michael Sprott on his own part-time Wembley patch for the English belt and outgamed by Belfast's gutsy but limited Martin Rogan on the way to a points defeat. He was also outpointed in a dreary affair by Danny Williams - again after tasting the canvas (much to the amusement of promoter F rank Warren) - and to a similar reluctant type in America's Dominick Guinn after 10 dull rounds in California.
Otherwise, it is success all the way for the surly Londoner, but success breeds boredom, in his case. If Harrison does win, he does just enough to win, although he did 'jump' on an out-of-shape Williams in a return and halted him, prematurely I thought (the crowd booed the stoppage). Every dog has its day. Writer Graham Houston says Harrison fights so safety-first because he knows his chin is nothing. Why else would such a huge man with obvious boxing ability, fitness, fast hands and the occasional show of strength and a big shot, prove so reluctant to mix it?
Thankfully, Sosnowski is just the opposite, a true fighting man, a man who makes the most of his ability and opportunities. He grabbed his first opportunity against Williams in London in 2008, a Williams who, this time, was in shape. Danny had trained hard to face John McDermott in a rematch to a controversial first fight. McDermott pulled out injured and in came Sosnowski at desperately short notice and knocked Williams down and out in the eighth round. Today, people say Williams is 'shot'. They weren't saying it before Sosnowski. The 30-year-old Warsaw battler, powerful-looking and a decent banger, if a little stiff in the Frank Bruno mould, stepped up again a fight later when he ventured to Germany and snatched an excellent 12-round draw with the unbeaten Francesco Pianeta. To paraphrase Joe Jacobs, "He wuz robbed!" Pianeta, a giant southpaw like Audley, recently busted up and stopped Matt Skelton, so it really was a fine performance from Sosnowski and earned him a break here for the vacant European title against 39-year-old Italian Paolo Vidoz – a man outscored by Harrison in the 2000 Olympics – and outmuscled by the Pole on the way to a unanimous decision for the big belt last month.
Sosnowski is a modern day Duane Bobick, strong and willing but missing something, somehow. He has a great record against a lot of old men - men as old as Audley – but was held back until the Williams scalp and you wonder why. He will obviously come to win in April but is probably no better than Harrison, who is already making hollow 'feelers' at a crack at WBA heavyweight title David Haye, although Haye has yet another stinking opponent to think about in John Ruiz on April 3 in Manchester (a fight he will undoubtedly win but not necessarily in style).
To conclude, Harrison ranks as the Joe Bugner of the 21st century, thinking more about money than he does the fans. For once in his nine-year career Harrison has to think about the fans, the performance and the title. Even his own mother will finally give up on him if he runs yet again on the way to defeat.

Stevie, just picked up Boxing News' '100 years of Boxing'. A really good read. Also, do yoy know the trainer Brian Hughes?

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Yes, I've met Brian many times and he is a diamond. I believe His son, Damian, posts on the British forum (as simply Damian).

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As the days gratefully begin to draw out and even one or two cuckoos can be heard (bring on the cider), so we draw closer to Last Chance Saloon for one Audley Harrison. The big southpaw from Harrow, or is it Wembley, or Harlesden, or somewhere in the States – nobody really cares – challenges Poland's gutsy Albert Sosnowski for the European heavyweight title at the famous old Ally Pally in north London on April 9.
Harrison, who failed even to win an English title a couple of years ago, secured his prize in yet another Prizefighter heavyweight event last autumn when he won three bouts in one night, all of them scheduled three-rounders. Audley was pitched right back to his amateur days, which is probably why he won the the damned event. He had mastered the ghastly computer-scoring system in all his years in the unpaid ranks which took him to ABA, Commonwealth and Olympic titles - eventually. He was almost 30 by the time he turned pro on a balmy night in May 2001 against the worst heavyweight I've seen since Chuck Gardner, a red neck by the name of Mike Middleton who you would not want to meet on a canoe trip down a soon-to-be-damned river.
Perhaps Harrison's long-haul success in the amateurs explains why some boxing fans have stayed remarkably patient with him as he proceeded to disappoint or frustrate time and time again in the pros. Harrison, now pushing 39, was flattened by the much smaller but quicker Michael Sprott on his own part-time Wembley patch for the English belt and outgamed by Belfast's gutsy but limited Martin Rogan on the way to a points defeat. He was also outpointed in a dreary affair by Danny Williams - again after tasting the canvas (much to the amusement of promoter F rank Warren) - and to a similar reluctant type in America's Dominick Guinn after 10 dull rounds in California.
Otherwise, it is success all the way for the surly Londoner, but success breeds boredom, in his case. If Harrison does win, he does just enough to win, although he did 'jump' on an out-of-shape Williams in a return and halted him, prematurely I thought (the crowd booed the stoppage). Every dog has its day. Writer Graham Houston says Harrison fights so safety-first because he knows his chin is nothing. Why else would such a huge man with obvious boxing ability, fitness, fast hands and the occasional show of strength and a big shot, prove so reluctant to mix it?
Thankfully, Sosnowski is just the opposite, a true fighting man, a man who makes the most of his ability and opportunities. He grabbed his first opportunity against Williams in London in 2008, a Williams who, this time, was in shape. Danny had trained hard to face John McDermott in a rematch to a controversial first fight. McDermott pulled out injured and in came Sosnowski at desperately short notice and knocked Williams down and out in the eighth round. Today, people say Williams is 'shot'. They weren't saying it before Sosnowski. The 30-year-old Warsaw battler, powerful-looking and a decent banger, if a little stiff in the Frank Bruno mould, stepped up again a fight later when he ventured to Germany and snatched an excellent 12-round draw with the unbeaten Francesco Pianeta. To paraphrase Joe Jacobs, "He wuz robbed!" Pianeta, a giant southpaw like Audley, recently busted up and stopped Matt Skelton, so it really was a fine performance from Sosnowski and earned him a break here for the vacant European title against 39-year-old Italian Paolo Vidoz – a man outscored by Harrison in the 2000 Olympics – and outmuscled by the Pole on the way to a unanimous decision for the big belt last month.
Sosnowski is a modern day Duane Bobick, strong and willing but missing something, somehow. He has a great record against a lot of old men - men as old as Audley – but was held back until the Williams scalp and you wonder why. He will obviously come to win in April but is probably no better than Harrison, who is already making hollow 'feelers' at a crack at WBA heavyweight title David Haye, although Haye has yet another stinking opponent to think about in John Ruiz on April 3 in Manchester (a fight he will undoubtedly win but not necessarily in style).
To conclude, Harrison ranks as the Joe Bugner of the 21st century, thinking more about money than he does the fans. For once in his nine-year career Harrison has to think about the fans, the performance and the title. Even his own mother will finally give up on him if he runs yet again on the way to defeat.

Bennie
One of the news services should pick you up as their boxing correspondent.

[dagosd2000]

Happy Birthday to our friend Rick Farris.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW9ONaDhpzM

Mananitas

Pedro Infante ( For Rick Farris)

[dagosd2000]

Great story about Johnny Haircut Rog.
Melrose park is just west of where my wife grew up.
That joint is probably only a mile or two from the house she grew uo in.
Shes from North and Nagle.
Lots and lots of outfit guys all over the place back in the day.

Brian, as you know, Melrose Park, Addison and Elmwood Park were just a few of the Chicago burbs which were/are heavily Italian populated. It seems that when the old west side began changing, the Italians moved west while the Irish moved North and South, I guess to give everyone breathing room. I think I mentioned this before that when my parents arrived on these shores in the mid '50s they lived around Polk and Pulaski and then Adams and Pulaski, in old St. Mel's parish, which I'm sure Roger remembers. Then they bought their first house around '62 around Chicago and Laramie in Our Lady Help of Christians parish (it's funny, that is how everyone knew where you lived by referencing what parish you lived in). By '68 we left the west side for good as areas changed leaving only memories.

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Dan
My Dad went to St. Mels in school.

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As the days gratefully begin to draw out and even one or two cuckoos can be heard (bring on the cider), so we draw closer to Last Chance Saloon for one Audley Harrison. The big southpaw from Harrow, or is it Wembley, or Harlesden, or somewhere in the States – nobody really cares – challenges Poland's gutsy Albert Sosnowski for the European heavyweight title at the famous old Ally Pally in north London on April 9.
Harrison, who failed even to win an English title a couple of years ago, secured his prize in yet another Prizefighter heavyweight event last autumn when he won three bouts in one night, all of them scheduled three-rounders. Audley was pitched right back to his amateur days, which is probably why he won the the damned event. He had mastered the ghastly computer-scoring system in all his years in the unpaid ranks which took him to ABA, Commonwealth and Olympic titles - eventually. He was almost 30 by the time he turned pro on a balmy night in May 2001 against the worst heavyweight I've seen since Chuck Gardner, a red neck by the name of Mike Middleton who you would not want to meet on a canoe trip down a soon-to-be-damned river.
Perhaps Harrison's long-haul success in the amateurs explains why some boxing fans have stayed remarkably patient with him as he proceeded to disappoint or frustrate time and time again in the pros. Harrison, now pushing 39, was flattened by the much smaller but quicker Michael Sprott on his own part-time Wembley patch for the English belt and outgamed by Belfast's gutsy but limited Martin Rogan on the way to a points defeat. He was also outpointed in a dreary affair by Danny Williams - again after tasting the canvas (much to the amusement of promoter F rank Warren) - and to a similar reluctant type in America's Dominick Guinn after 10 dull rounds in California.
Otherwise, it is success all the way for the surly Londoner, but success breeds boredom, in his case. If Harrison does win, he does just enough to win, although he did 'jump' on an out-of-shape Williams in a return and halted him, prematurely I thought (the crowd booed the stoppage). Every dog has its day. Writer Graham Houston says Harrison fights so safety-first because he knows his chin is nothing. Why else would such a huge man with obvious boxing ability, fitness, fast hands and the occasional show of strength and a big shot, prove so reluctant to mix it?
Thankfully, Sosnowski is just the opposite, a true fighting man, a man who makes the most of his ability and opportunities. He grabbed his first opportunity against Williams in London in 2008, a Williams who, this time, was in shape. Danny had trained hard to face John McDermott in a rematch to a controversial first fight. McDermott pulled out injured and in came Sosnowski at desperately short notice and knocked Williams down and out in the eighth round. Today, people say Williams is 'shot'. They weren't saying it before Sosnowski. The 30-year-old Warsaw battler, powerful-looking and a decent banger, if a little stiff in the Frank Bruno mould, stepped up again a fight later when he ventured to Germany and snatched an excellent 12-round draw with the unbeaten Francesco Pianeta. To paraphrase Joe Jacobs, "He wuz robbed!" Pianeta, a giant southpaw like Audley, recently busted up and stopped Matt Skelton, so it really was a fine performance from Sosnowski and earned him a break here for the vacant European title against 39-year-old Italian Paolo Vidoz – a man outscored by Harrison in the 2000 Olympics – and outmuscled by the Pole on the way to a unanimous decision for the big belt last month.
Sosnowski is a modern day Duane Bobick, strong and willing but missing something, somehow. He has a great record against a lot of old men - men as old as Audley – but was held back until the Williams scalp and you wonder why. He will obviously come to win in April but is probably no better than Harrison, who is already making hollow 'feelers' at a crack at WBA heavyweight title David Haye, although Haye has yet another stinking opponent to think about in John Ruiz on April 3 in Manchester (a fight he will undoubtedly win but not necessarily in style).
To conclude, Harrison ranks as the Joe Bugner of the 21st century, thinking more about money than he does the fans. For once in his nine-year career Harrison has to think about the fans, the performance and the title. Even his own mother will finally give up on him if he runs yet again on the way to defeat.

Stevie, just picked up Boxing News' '100 years of Boxing'. A really good read. Also, do yoy know the trainer Brian Hughes?

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Yes, I've met Brian many times and he is a diamond. I believe His son, Damian, posts on the British forum (as simply Damian).

I've been corresponding with him on e-mails, he seems like a good guy. I was asking who he's been training and he has quite a few prospects there.

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Great story about Johnny Haircut Rog.
Melrose park is just west of where my wife grew up.
That joint is probably only a mile or two from the house she grew uo in.
Shes from North and Nagle.
Lots and lots of outfit guys all over the place back in the day.

Brian, as you know, Melrose Park, Addison and Elmwood Park were just a few of the Chicago burbs which were/are heavily Italian populated. It seems that when the old west side began changing, the Italians moved west while the Irish moved North and South, I guess to give everyone breathing room. I think I mentioned this before that when my parents arrived on these shores in the mid '50s they lived around Polk and Pulaski and then Adams and Pulaski, in old St. Mel's parish, which I'm sure Roger remembers. Then they bought their first house around '62 around Chicago and Laramie in Our Lady Help of Christians parish (it's funny, that is how everyone knew where you lived by referencing what parish you lived in). By '68 we left the west side for good as areas changed leaving only memories.

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Dan
My Dad went to St. Mels in school.

Rog, unfortunately my memory of St. Mel's is going to mass on Sunday with my parents and watching my sisters turn into the playground going to school. I would have started kindergarten that September but we moved during the summer. I just recall everyone being either Irish or Italian.

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[bennie]

Stevie, just picked up Boxing News' '100 years of Boxing'. A really good read. Also, do yoy know the trainer Brian Hughes?

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Yes, I've met Brian many times and he is a diamond. I believe His son, Damian, posts on the British forum (as simply Damian).

I've been corresponding with him on e-mails, he seems like a good guy. I was asking who he's been training and he has quite a few prospects there.

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He is a top trainer, one of our best. He does not suck up to the big promoters, however, which means the 'big' names are often steered elsewhere.

[bennie]

They say the fight is on, after all. They say Britain's Amir Khan tests his chin, his 'bottle', his attempt to 'crack' America, his body and soul, his entire boxing future when he defends his WBA light-welterweight title at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on April 3 against huge Argentine puncher Marcos Maidana.
On the very same night here, Londoner David Haye defends his WBA heavyweight title against John Ruiz. Now, that I believe – but Khan versus Maidana? I was under the impression that Freddie Roach, Khan's celebrated trainer, did not fancy Maidana, a man with a self-explanatory record of 27-1 (26), a man who can really hurt you. Ok, Maidana's one loss came on a 12-round split decision to Andreas Kotelnik last year, and Khan then pasted Kotelnik for the WBA title. However, Maidana came back with a thrilling up-and-down win over "Vicious" Victor Ortiz on Roach territory in Los Angeles to secure mandatory status to Khan - outpunching and outgaming the touted Ortiz. Roach, known round these parts nowadays as "The Poacher", then made it quite clear he wanted Khan to avoid Maidana by handing in the big WBA belt but maybe Freddie has been overruled by Khan's new promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, or De La Hoya's shifty right-hand man Richard Schaefer.
The stigma and fallout of Khan's 54-second destruction at the hands of an unknown but unbeaten Colombian Breidis Prescott in 2008 lingers in the memory of every British boxing man, but Schaefer, a former Swiss banker, or De La Hoya, never far away from a mirror, hardly 'know' the Bolton youngster like Khan's former promoter F rank Warren. To them, Prescott was recently outclassed by an unknown kid from Dagenham by the name of Kevin Mitchell.
Warren, who brought Khan back brilliantly from the Prescott disaster, would probably have taken Maidana for his former charge - but Khan is scheduled to face Maidana and Juan Manuel Marquez within a month of each other (Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on May 1). This living nightmare is something Warren would never have tolerated. Marquez remains the only man in boxing to have twice beaten Manny Pacquiao (only to get jobbed both times). If Khan wants to explode on to the American scene, he is certainly going the right way about it - but you wonder what the rush is? The boy from Bolton in Lancashire, just turned 23, is still improving, still enjoying fantastic reflexes and speed, still feeling the affects of Prescott's left hands (including a jab which first got him going), still to make his US debut.
Golden Boy Promotions (De La Hoya and Schaefer) run the risk of breaking Khan's heart, here, of breaking his American dream before it barely even starts. They say God laughs at those who make plans, particularly stupid plans.

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Pancho Villa

[iskigoe]

HAPPY 1000 pages, 25,000 posts, and happy birthday day Rick.

KI

[bennie]

Rick is getting younger again.

[THEHAMMER321]

Happy Birthday to our friend Rick Farris.....

I second that Happy Birthday Rick

[THEHAMMER321]

Joi Lansing & Bob Albright

Frank
do you know if BIG Bob is still alive,when I was a kid back in the 1970s Bob used to advertise his business on T.V I forgot what kind of business it was but by the 1980s never saw him again maybe he just moved out of Vegas.

[kikibalt]

Joi Lansing & Bob Albright

Frank
do you know if BIG Bob is still alive,when I was a kid back in the 1970s Bob used to advertise his business on T.V I forgot what kind of business it was but by the 1980s never saw him again maybe he just moved out of Vegas.

I couldn't tell you Hammer, being years since I heard anything about him...

[Bobbin & Weavin]

Happy Birthday to our friend Rick Farris.....

Rick,
Happy Birthday from your NorCal fans.
Bruce

[dagosd2000]

Cheto in charge



Inside Cheto's Gym



Cucy Ramos



Alex Lopez.Prospect.Wouldn't stay still.




Plaza Santa Cecilia,Tijuana


SITTIN' AND CHATTIN'

Plaza Santa Cecilia is about the only spot in downtown TJ that has any life left. Tacos sizzlin',cold beer and margaritas,and Cheto's Boxing Gym.As usual Cheto was at his desk in front keeping an eye on everything. I promised Frank that I'd tell Cheto that the Baltazar's are alive and well. Of course Cheto remembered Frank and his sons. Somehow he knew Tony was in Arizona.Asked if everyone was Ok.Said hello.

Cheto opened his gym in 1984. I've always seen him there. Today the gym was pretty crowded. He asked me to sit down. We began talking when one of the ex local fighters and now a referee came in. Cucy Ramos was introduced to me and then we began our three way sparring session.

Found out that Cucy was suspended by Mexico's commission for a year because he was tracking fighters down there. A guy would get KO'd in let say Mexicali,and then fight the next week in Ciudad Juarez. Cucy thought that was asking a little to much so the promoters asked the Commission to let Cucy take a powder for a year.

Heard that Erik Morales has signed with Nacho Huizar for a three fight series. Morales hasn't fought in three years and his weight has balooned over 200 pounds. Wants to fight at welter and win another belt. I just hope he doesn't get belted . They say along with his over eating,he's been over tipping too.

Margarito is maintaining. Working out in Colonia Independencia when he steps in to spar. He's a clean liver and has not gone up in weight much. I asked why he doesn't try his comeback in Mexico. Cheto had the right answer. If Tony did that,the U.S. Commissions would think that Mexico was over stepping their boudaries. I guess Tony is trying to get the OK up here first. Something they are trying to get going with Arum in Texas.

Speaking of Arum,Cheto said that Bob has a piece of his best prospect. A kid by the name of Alex Lopez. BoxRec has him down for three fights,but Cheto showed me his record. 17 and 0 with a slew of knockouts.The kid is going to fight in Cabo San Lucas next week.

Cheto asked how the LA. fighters are doing. He believes that if a fighter stays away from drugs , he won't wind up with dementia. He then went down a list of fighters who had it together after boxing:Kid Azteca,Raton Macias,Marcos Geraldo and Jibaro Perez from TJ. Both those latter two have a stable of fighters in town ,and when there's a card, their fighters are on the bill.

So it was a nice talk with those fellas' on a nice sunny day in Plaza Santa Cecilia.

Oh.That kid from my class,Martin Ramirez, that said he'd meet me at Cheto's to watch train never showed.

Asi es...oh hell you know what comes next by now.

[kikibalt]

Thanks for the up-date on Chato, Roger, last time I seen Chato was in November of 1989 when he brought Juan Manuel Muniz to Phoenix to fight Tony, I got the impression that Muniz was just there for a pay day, I gave him a ride to the weight-ins and on the way there he is sitting in my car smoking away...

Later on when Chato came into town we had lunch and shot the bull at the hotel we were staying at.

Thanks too Roger for saying hi to Chato for me...

[Chuck1052]

Happy Birthday, Rick!

While being far too cautious during many bouts, Joe Bugner was a much better fighter than Audley Harrison.

- Chuck Johnston

[Randyman]

Happy Birthday Rick! Enjoy your day.

Randy

[Randyman]

We lost another uncle again. This time on my mother's side, Bobby Espinosa. Actually, he was my mother's uncle. I hadn't seen him in years. He was buried today at Rose Hills Cemetery.

Randy

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyANRiqzfio

Ragg Mopp

The Treniers

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4V8pbg3rNU

Jump Jive an' Wail

Louis Prima(best show in Vegas)

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU2S9D8XJRI

City Of LA.

Los Walker

I remember living in Canon Jhonson seeing these guys in TJ. Oldies but goodies. What do you know?Last year one of the kids of these guys is in my class. He plays keyboards with Los Walker. Gave me a CD. I guess the whole family still plays.