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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 12:21
by kikibalt
Great post Bennie.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 15:02
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Great post Bennie.... :TU:
This place is in the middle of nowhere, Frankie (even Ray would not find it, a pillaging Viking). Trains take four hours from Copenhagen airport. The nearest airport you can fly to is Billund, from where it's a bus journey to Herning of an hour, or a 20-minute bus ride to another town called Vejle and a train from there.
Portland, Maine, all over again.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 19:27
by Randyman
From the Long Beach Press Telegram

Mayweather finalizes May 1 welterweight fight with Mosley

BOXING: Fighters agree to Olympic-style drug testing as final step to lock up bout.
By Robert Morales, Staff Writer


With "Sugar" Shane Mosley of Pomona having signed his contract late Friday to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May1, Richard Schaefer was getting a little antsy because Mayweather had not signed his contract.

But Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was feeling better Wednesday when Mayweather did put his name on the dotted line. The fight - for Mosley's welterweight world title - will take place at MGM Grand in Las Vegas. It will be available on HBO pay-per-view.

"Signed, sealed and delivered," said Schaefer, who was asked if he breathed a sigh of relief upon Mayweather's signing. "Geez, I think relief is a bit too strong of a word. When you have a super fight like that, it takes awhile to get done.

"I'm glad we have it done because I think this is one of the most anticipated fights in recent memory."

Mosley (46-5, 39 KOs), who is promoted by Golden Boy, said he wasn't concerned about Mayweather changing his mind. Both fighters agreed to the Olympic-style drug testing that Manny Pacquiao would not agree to, which effectively killed his fight with Mayweather that was tentatively slated for March 13; Pacquiao is now fighting Joshua Clottey on that date.

"I wasn't really nervous," Mosley said. "I knew it was going to happen because he (Mayweather) had nowhere to go."

Mosley, 38, last fought in January 2009, when he stopped Antonio Margarito in the ninth round at Staples Center.

Mosley has had difficulty getting anyone of any ilk to step into the ring with him since then, and his Jan.30 fight with Andre Berto was canceled when Berto - a Haitian-American - pulled out after the recent catastrophic earthquake in Haiti that took the lives of thousands, including some relatives of Berto.
"My toughness and my strength and power and speed," said Mosley, when asked what will allow him to beat Mayweather. "He has been fighting a lot of guys a lot lighter than him. Now he's fighting a guy who is a welterweight/junior middleweight.

"He is fighting a real guy."

Mayweather's last two fights came against Ricky Hatton and Juan Manuel Marquez. Both were blown up from lighter weights. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) stopped Hatton in the 10th round in December 2007, took 21 months off, and came back and won a decision over Marquez.

"I have said ever since I came back to the sport that I only wanted to fight the best," said Mayweather, 32. "I think Shane is one of the best. But come May 1, he still won't be great enough to beat me."

robert.morales@presstelegram

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 19:49
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:Chili: a bowl of red-blooded American heaven

Chili is as personal as a fingerprint and as satisfying as any dish. Break out the pot and the chiles and you've got yourself a winner for Super Bowl.

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Chili is a wonderfully simple, no-fuss dish. (Ricardo DeAratanha / Los Angeles Times)

By Noelle Carter
February 4, 2010

It's been called both a "bowl of blessedness" and the "soup of the Devil," and it's the stuff of legend.

Frank and Jesse James reputedly downed a few bowls before pulling some of their heists -- and supposedly spared one town because of it. O. Henry spun a short story around it, and Will Rogers allegedly judged a town by its quality. It's said Eleanor Roosevelt tried -- without success -- to get the secrets of one recipe, and that Lyndon B. Johnson remarked that the kind concocted outside his home state of Texas was "usually a weak, apologetic imitation of the real thing." Not even Elizabeth Taylor was immune -- she had whole quarts packed in dry ice and shipped to Rome while she was filming "Cleopatra."

I'm talking about chili, and I've been a devotee of the stuff for years now. There's nothing better when you're entertaining a crowd. And I don't know about you, but I'll be hosting a little football party on Sunday, and I plan to fix a big pot the day before. All I have to do is let it reheat while I entertain and watch the game and, voilà! Dinner is served. No stress.

Chili is a wonderfully simple, no-fuss dish. Meat, generally a somewhat tough cut of beef or pork, is spiced with chiles and stewed -- slowly -- with a few choice ingredients. The results are magical: a richly flavored dish (neither soup nor stew, chili is in a category all its own) that only gets better with time. Fix it a day or two ahead, cook it slowly, then let it sit awhile before serving, giving it proper time to mature and develop. A good chili ages like a fine wine.

That's not to say chili is without its drama. Some people have an almost religious zeal about their chili -- and any deviation from the one true recipe is heretical. Still, the variations are endless. From the classic Texas beef-lover's "bowl of red" to a New Mexican "bowl of green," it's a dish that's arguably been adopted in some way by every state in the Union.

There are all-meat and all-bean varieties, as well as recipes for white chili, "Yankee" chili, wild game, turkey and even seafood chilies. Some chilies are proudly rated for their heat ("four-alarm," "code red"). There are chili societies -- the Chili Appreciation Society International (CASI) and the International Chili Society (ICS) -- and chili cookoffs -- the CASI has held its annual event in Terlingua, Texas, since 1967.

And then there's Cincinnati-style -- as if the chili alone is not enough, this may be served "five-ways" with, count 'em: spaghetti, chili, beans, chopped onion and shredded cheese. Since we're a nation united by variety, move over apple pie -- chili is the true All-American dish.

Colorful history

The earliest chilies were probably borne out of necessity, using some of the oldest tricks in the book: Cooking tough meat until tender and spicing it so it tastes good.

According to the legendary chili historian Frank X. Tolbert, some of the earliest chilies evolved on the trails, from dried beef packed with fat, seasoned with salt and spiced with dried chili peppers. Historian Everett DeGolyer called it a "pemmican of the Southwest."

Eventually, in the 1880s, chili moved to town, as brightly dressed "chili queens" set up their stands at dusk in San Antonio, their colorful lamps leading customers to the wonderful smells wafting from chili that had been simmering all day.

The ICS speculates that, in competing with each other, these chili queens are probably responsible for improving chili and bringing it closer to what we know today.

This classic Texas bowl of red, or something like it, is my personal favorite recipe. This is a meat-lover's chili -- no beans allowed.

I start with dried whole chiles, which I stem, seed and rehydrate. Sure, you can use packaged ground chile, but there will be a night and day difference in flavor.

Like all ground spices, chile powder can oxidize and lose intensity as it sits, making for hollow flavor. Dried whole chiles are rich with flavor and not too much work if you're passionate about the end product.

Meat versus beans

I trim and cube several pounds of chuck roast. You don't have to go for a high-priced cut; choose a cheaper piece that is tough and has a lot of internal fat for the best flavor. You could grind it, but I prefer cubes for their texture and appearance.

Render a pound of bacon in a big heavy pot, preferably cast iron. Leave a little of the fat in the pot, and purée the fried bacon with the rehydrated chiles to make a paste to add to the sauce. Pork is not usually found in Texas red chili, but the bacon helps thicken the sauce and lends so much flavor.

Stew the chili with onion, garlic and fresh-roasted chiles. I also add tomatoes -- that's discouraged in certain schools too, but the acidity helps brighten the chili and focus all those flavors. And I throw in a beer -- a good dark stout -- to lift the flavors a little more.

Cook the chili at a low simmer until the meat is tender, about two hours. It's great served right away, but like most soups and stews, it improves overnight in the fridge.

If you like to add beans, go ahead -- this is your chili. But throw them in toward the end; you don't want to overcook them or they'll turn to mush.

On the other hand, a bean-based chili can be surprisingly rich and full-flavored as well. I sometimes like to make a mixed-bean chili with hominy. It's a colorful dish with a ton of flavor, rich and hearty. And no one would know it's vegetarian unless you mentioned it.

Or you could take the chili method down a different path entirely. My lentil chili draws from a North African inspiration, using Merguez sausage and harissa (a hot, North African chili paste) for flavor. I balance the heat with fresh ginger, lemon, cinnamon and turmeric, and finish the chili with chopped fresh parsley and a sprinkling of cilantro. The flavors kind of explode in the mouth -- bright, fresh notes balanced with subtle but intense heat.

It's not traditional, but it's good. And whatever your preferences, at the end of the day, it's all about good chili, whether you're from Coleman, Texas (reportedly Will Roger's favorite chili town), or Fort Worth (that little town supposedly spared by the James boys).

As Pat Garrett, famous for killing Billy the Kid, supposedly once said of the outlaw, "Anyone that eats chili can't be all bad."

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Great article Frank. I love Chili but I am a Green Chile (not chili) lover above all. Below is President Johnson's Chili recipe.

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Pronounced Pur-DIN-alice - This recipe is President Lyndon B. Johnson, 36th President of the United States, chili recipes.

Mrs. Lady Bird Johnson had cards printed with the LBJ's "Pedernales River Chili" recipe. She is quoted as saying, "It has been almost as popular as the government pamphlet on the care and feeding of children." This version is from Lone Star Legacy, a cookbook put out by the Austin Junior Forum in 1981.

"Chili concocted outside of Texas is usually a weak, apologetic initation of the real thing. One of the first things I do when I get home to Texas is to have a bowl of red. There is simply nothing better." - by Lyndon B. Johnson, 36th President of the United States

Pedernales River Chili

4 pounds coarsely ground beef (chili-grind)
1 large chopped onion
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1 teaspoon ground cumin
6 teaspoons chili powder
2 (16-ounce) cans tomatoes
Salt to taste
2 cups hot water

In a large frying pan, brown meat with onion and garlic until meat is lightly browned; transfer ingredients to a large kettle cast-iron Dutch oven.

Add oregano, cumin, chili powder, tomatoes, salt, and hot water. Bring just to a boil; lower heat and simmer, covered, for approximately 1 hour. Remove from heat. Skim off grease and serve.

Serves 12.

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 19:50
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:A family business built on chili bricks

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Dolores Canning Co. in East L.A. has spiced up the Southland and beyond with its brand of frozen chili.

Some restaurants, such as Philippe the Original, doctor up Dolores Chili Brick to make it their own. (Richard Derk / Los Angeles Times)

February 4, 2010

After polishing off his French dip sandwich at Philippe the Original in downtown Los Angeles, Bert Muñoz redirects his attention to the meaty chili dripping down the sides of a 1950s-era melamine bowl and onto his cafeteria tray.

With quick flicks of his wrist, the chatty 37-year-old co-owner of Dolores Canning Co. scoops up brick-red spoonfuls without spilling even a drop onto his white knit shirt emblazoned with the company logo.

"I'll walk by a hot dog stand and can tell it's our chili just by the smell of it," Muñoz says proudly of his bloodhound-like ability to ferret out the family's product at Los Angeles-area street vendors and restaurants.

Over the years, he has tossed back plenty of bowls straight (competition lingo for all-meat, no-bean chili). Tasting his family's spicy, ground beef-laden specialty is all in a day's work for the sales manager of the East Los Angeles meat processing plant founded more than 50 years ago by his grandfather, Basilio Muñoz.

The brick is born

After building a successful business based on Mexican meats and prepared foods, Basilio and his sons Augustine, Frank and Steve introduced the Dolores Chili Brick in 1973.

"Grandpa started out distributing meat and canning menudo, but his baby project was to make chili that wasn't canned," Bert recalls of the company's gradual shift from canned to frozen products including not only menudo (traditional Mexican hominy, tripe and calf foot stew), but also chili con carne. "With a frozen chili that's concentrated, you get a fresher flavor."

The unusual name, a reference to the chili's shape when packaged and frozen, isn't just a clever marketing gimmick. The term hails from the earliest dehydrated chili "bricks" made by Texas cowboy cooks around 1850. Drying a mixture of pounded beef, chile peppers and salt and shaping it into stackable rectangles that could be easily rehydrated with boiling water came in handy on Midwestern cattle drives and Gold Rush treks to California.

Today, Frank manages the company's finances while Bert and his father, Steve, handle sales and purchasing. Bert's 42-year-old cousin, David, manages factory operations and an aunt, Teresa, is the accountant (Basilio and Augustine, David's father, died several years ago).

The family continues to package raw meat products such as carne asada (flank steak marinated with onions, vinegar and oregano) and produces a handful of jarred pickled products, including jalapeño-laced pork rinds and pig's feet spiced with red chile peppers.

But the chili brick has been the focus of the business for as long as Bert can remember.

"By 5 years old we were in the spice room, 8 to 10 we were working in the kitchen, and by 16 we were driving trucks after school to make deliveries," he says.

Bert and his cousin are the only grandchildren out of 10 to work in the family business. David suspects it has something to do with the rather unglamorous nature of meat processing. " 'Grandpa day care' over Christmas vacation was driving all over Southern California to slaughterhouses."

The chili is named after their grandmother, the woman with movie-star good looks on the company logo. The logo is based on a 1930s carnival painting of Dolores, flirtatiously fanning her face.

Putting it together

The family recipe is a traditional red chili made with paprika and chile pepper-spiked ground beef that is enriched with ground beef hearts to give it a more robust, meaty flavor.

According to the International Chili Society, the industry watchdog that regulates chili competitions, the Muñoz family's all-meat chili would qualify for the competition circuit (chilies with too many added ingredients, such as beans, are frowned upon by chili fanatics).

But Bert and David are less concerned than the ICS about variations to their product.

"People doctor it up with whatever they like, serve it thick or thin . . . add onions, beans or even more beef to make it chunkier," says David unapologetically. "We love to hear about that kind of thing."

A scan of the company website with its somewhat unusual family recipes is evidence of that openness to culinary experimentation. There's chili-sauced spaghetti, chili dip made with copious amounts of cream cheese, even a turkey and chili tamale casserole.

As for the Muñoz family's personal taste, David is a devout Frito pie fan, the classic Texas snack of corn chips piled with chili and shredded cheddar, and Bert concocted his own variation as a student at Cuesta College in San Luis Obispo.

"I used to load up cases of chili for the frat house and we'd eat chili over steamed white rice all week. It's still my favorite," he says.

Even Philippe takes the liberty to make a few tweaks. "I tell customers they can buy the chili from Smart & Final, but they come back asking why it doesn't taste the same," says day manager Elias Barajas, who typically leaves out one important detail: Philippe uses beef stock rather than water to reconstitute the chili, giving it a richer flavor.

Because the product is so widely available at restaurant supply stores, keeping up with customers can be tricky. "Even we don't know how many places use our chili," David says.

That makes it hard to market the company's other products, such as its carne asada, to customers who already use the chili. That's when Bert's nose for sniffing out chili comes in handy.

"I'll sit down at a restaurant or go to a party and I can smell our chili on the stove," he says.

But for this manufacturer, the ultimate badge of honor is kudos from a resident of chili's birthplace.

"A woman in San Antonio orders our chili by mail," he claims. "She says it's better than what she can get in Texas."

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I've used this product before and it really is good.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 21:01
by dagosd2000
A MEAL FIT FOR A REVOLUTIONARY

The chile con carne in the can is OK with me,but my wife doesn't care for it. She can't understand why they call it chile when it's mostly meat with beans. Chiles,to her,is the fruit. So she refers to chile con carne as chile beans. The ground meat is another thing she's not used to. Then it comes out of a can. All those ingredients should be fresh. Replace the ground meat with machaca or carne asada,and then substitute the beans in the can with refried beans and it's more on target.By the way,if she has strips of beef in it,it has to be burn't almost. Then she'll put HER chiles on it,flour or corn tortillas, and then it's ready.

Like I said,I'm used to chile con carne out of the can.I especially like it mixed with hot dogs. I'll even put ketchup on it.I guess I don't have enough of the rancho in me. Of course I won't do that in front of my wife.Then again,she knows I like to eat that way once in a while so she'll make it like that for me.

As I'm eating the chile con carne with hot dogs with the ketchup out of the can,I'll look at my wife eating her stuff.She reminds me of one of Villa's wives. :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 21:54
by dagosd2000
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Maria eating her homemade menudo con pata. The bottle on the right is either some of her chile or rocket fuel. It can be used for both . :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 21:54
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:A MEAL FIT FOR A REVOLUTIONARY

The chile con carne in the can is OK with me,but my wife doesn't care for it. She can't understand why they call it chile when it's mostly meat with beans. Chiles,to her,is the fruit. So she refers to chile con carne as chile beans. The ground meat is another thing she's not used to. Then it comes out of a can. All those ingredients should be fresh. Replace the ground meat with machaca or carne asada,and then substitute the beans in the can with refried beans and it's more on target.By the way,if she has strips of beef in it,it has to be burn't almost. Then she'll put HER chiles on it,flour or corn tortillas, and then it's ready.

Like I said,I'm used to chile con carne out of the can.I especially like it mixed with hot dogs. I'll even put ketchup on it.I guess I don't have enough of the rancho in me. Of course I won't do that in front of my wife.Then again,she knows I like to eat that way once in a while so she'll make it like that for me.

As I'm eating the chile con carne with hot dogs with the ketchup out of the can,I'll look at my wife eating her stuff.She reminds me of one of Villa's wives. :lol:
Rog, I'm laughing as I read this because my father would always shake his head and ask "Why do they call it Chile? Then he would point to his Jalapenos or long green chilies and say "These are chilies!" I would say "Dad, Chili with an "I" is a dish, Chile with an "E" is the vegetable". He just looked at me like I was nuts.

The funny thing is he would make "Chile Beans" which was really Chili (with an I). My mother, wife and daughters still call Chili "Chile Beans". For the record he was a "Green Chile" man through and through, made with New Mexico Chilies of course.

Must be a Mexican thing. :lol:

Randy :DDD

By the way, I grew up eating hard shell ground beef tacos. At home this is still the way I like them. These tacos have their roots in Tex-Mex cooking.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 21:56
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Maria eating her homemade menudo con pata. The bottle on the right is either some of her chile or rocket fuel. It can be used for both . :lol:
The Boxrec Food Channel is going full board again!

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 00:23
by bennie
Floyd “Money” Mayweather launches the second fight of his comeback against “Sugar” Shane Mosley in Las Vegas in May. Final arrangements are still to be ironed out but contracts are apparently signed and two of the fastest fighters in the game go head to head in a ‘true’ welterweight, all-American showdown.
Mayweather, who has spent much of his recent years picking off smaller ‘green card’ types, most lately Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico (floored and easily outpointed last September), did at least ‘shaft’ Freddie Roach and Richard Schaefer, the increasingly dislikeable Golden Boy team of Manny Pacquiao (and now our own Amir Khan), when negotiations for a superfight between Mayweather and Pacquiao stalled over Pacquio’s huge weight fluctuations which were quite rightly questioned by Mayweather who demanded pre-fight doping tests.
“Pac Man”, a former WBC flyweight champ, refused indignantly (along with Roach and Schaefer - what do they have to hide?), and makes do with Ghana’s dangerous but unknown Joshua Clottey in a real banana skin of a welterweight encounter in March, and a low-key one, not a smart move by Golden Boy Promotions; Mayweather enjoys the bigger fight and probably the easier one.
Mosley, who made his name as an amateur sparring the then frightening Julio Cesar Chavez in 1989, is not the force he was at 38. Between Chavez and now, Mosley has proved an exceptional world lightweight champion, bulked up to welterweight, been tarred with a steroids scandal, (‘took them unknowingly,’ he says), scored two big decisions over Oscar De La Hoya, and fought – and usually licked - everyone at welterweight and light-middleweight in the last decade.
He endured a couple of bogeymen in the late Vernon Forrest, who licked him twice (and also cost him a place in the 1992 Olympics) and Ronald “Winky” Wright, who also twice got the better of him - both gifted stylists in the Mayweather mould - but pulled himself together with two wins over “Ferocious” Fernado Vargas and those ‘biggies’ over De La Hoya, along with useful wins over the likes of Luis Collazo and Ricardo Mayorga.
Miguel Cotto closely outcored him.
Shane really shook up the world when he hammered Mexican iron man Antonio Margarito in nine stunningly one-sided rounds in Los Angeles in his last fight a year ago, a huge win from which he emerged with even greater credit when it was discovered that Margarito, who had just pounded Cotto in 11 brutal rounds, had not been on the level with his hand-bandaging (and was later banned in the US for just a single year, while Luis Resto contiues to be vilified). However, Margarito got busted before the Mosley fight and you wonder what effect it had on his perfomance. He just wasn’t there in the ring.
As for the unbeaten Mayweather, 40-0 (25), he naturally lost his pound-for-pound No. 1 status to Filipino Pacquiao when he retired in December 2007, after an easy win over Britain’s Ricky Hatton, and will see this as a chance to secure the magical if mythical spot again at still only 32. “Pretty Boy” Floyd retains his slick, sharp, accurate, brilliant-boxing skills, despite just the Marquez fight to show for the last two years (Marquez is no pushover as Khan might find out when they meet in Las Vegas in the same month). Mosley enjoys the same assets and probably the edge in strength and one-punch power, but those losses on his record, those years he has been boxing, make this an uphill task for the happy-go-lucky LA man, trained by his father Jack.
Mayweather has no weaknesses.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 00:27
by bennie
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Only in England.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 00:50
by Randyman
This is for Frank

Fishermens Breakfast Fish Recipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9BYyXIo ... div-f-1-HM

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 00:51
by dagosd2000
bennie wrote:Image

Only in England.

Bennie
I was always a fan of Stan Laurel(real name Stan Jefferson),Oliver Hardy's partner in comedy. Of course Stan was from England. In his later years,Stan and his third wife lived in a rented apartment out in Santa Monica(a suburb of LA. along the coast). Stan's phone number was in the book. People would call him up and ask him if he was the REAL Stan Laurel. He'd then invite the askers to his apartment to watch his old movies with his wife.

Stan also had an interest of dropping in on stationary stores,admiring the how the various office supplies were displayed.

Bennie,this strikes me as being very British also. If it is(or if it isn't),I get a good kick out of this. :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 00:52
by Randyman
bennie wrote:Image

Only in England.
That is a bit strange isn't it? :??

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 01:00
by dagosd2000
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Family burial plot in Jiquilpan. Maria's mother is resting under those flowers. Her two brothers are behind her mother. To the left is were Maria and I plan to retire. Don't know what inspired me to post this,but there it is. :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 02:56
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Family burial plot in Jiquilpan. Maria's mother is resting under those flowers. Her two brothers are behind her mother. To the left is were Maria and I plan to retire. Don't know what inspired me to post this,but there it is. :bow:
Heaven Can Wait . . .

Rog, we've still got a few thousand pages to write here. :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 03:23
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:
bennie wrote:Image

Only in England.

Bennie
I was always a fan of Stan Laurel(real name Stan Jefferson),Oliver Hardy's partner in comedy. Of course Stan was from England. In his later years,Stan and his third wife lived in a rented apartment out in Santa Monica(a suburb of LA. along the coast). Stan's phone number was in the book. People would call him up and ask him if he was the REAL Stan Laurel. He'd then invite the askers to his apartment to watch his old movies with his wife.

Stan also had an interest of dropping in on stationary stores,admiring the how the various office supplies were displayed.

Bennie,this strikes me as being very British also. If it is(or if it isn't),I get a good kick out of this. :TU:

Stan Laurel once mentioned that Oliver Hardy had a hobby, which was raising horses.
Laurel was asked if he had a hobby and he anwered, "Yes, and I married all of them."
Thus, Stan Laurel died broke. :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 04:57
by bennie
dagosd2000 wrote:
bennie wrote:Image

Only in England.

Bennie
I was always a fan of Stan Laurel(real name Stan Jefferson),Oliver Hardy's partner in comedy. Of course Stan was from England. In his later years,Stan and his third wife lived in a rented apartment out in Santa Monica(a suburb of LA. along the coast). Stan's phone number was in the book. People would call him up and ask him if he was the REAL Stan Laurel. He'd then invite the askers to his apartment to watch his old movies with his wife.

Stan also had an interest of dropping in on stationary stores,admiring the how the various office supplies were displayed.

Bennie,this strikes me as being very British also. If it is(or if it isn't),I get a good kick out of this. :TU:
Stan was from Ulverston in Cumbria (often known as The Lake District) and lived here till he was 20. That photo, by the way, is quintessentially English as we are always mowing the lawn in the summer. It was taken in Southport as I staggered somewhat drunkenly down a road.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 10:43
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:This is for Frank

Fishermens Breakfast Fish Recipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9BYyXIo ... div-f-1-HM
Randy, what're you doing to me!!.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 12:42
by dagosd2000
WHAT'S YOUR LEISURE?

I'd bang around the gyms once in a while. I'd workout with some of the fighters. It seemed like all in a day's work.

Today,you'll see more people training at the 24 Hour Fitness Center. Those are gyms too. The Nautilus machines,saunas,swimming pools,and carpeted floors are a nice touch. Guys and gals interact with each other often checking each other out on a physical dimension, and availabilty in a social context.

It's all very friendly and that's the way the ownership wants it. That's why clubs like 24 Hour Fitness have hearty memberships.

Then again there are boxing gyms by comparision. Usually cramped and located in the poorer neighborhoods,they can convey an atmosphere of congenialty too. The clientel is a little different. Participants think nothing of donning boxing attire and punch each other in the face. Sometimes the spirit of the combat transcends to a personal level,but after a fast session,the amialbilty returns and things are back to a norm.

Now not everyone wants to "workout"this way. A friendly Nautilus machine or dumbell will suffice. Besides,it's a bit awkward talking to a female with a bloody lip.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 17:17
by Randyman
From the Long Beach Press Telegram

The legendary Art Laboe honored at luncheon
By Richard Wagoner
Posted: 02/04/2010 07:44:40 PM PST


Art Laboe accepted his Lifetime Achievement honor at the LARadio.com awards luncheon last week at Vitello's in Studio City. It was an entertaining afternoon that showcased one of Los Angeles radio's true greats.

Always tinkering and acting as the neighborhood fix-it guy even in his young years in Utah, Laboe showed his interest in communications early on - with the help of his next-door neighbor - by building a "telephone" out of two earphones, wire and a switch.

Laboe decided to move to Los Angeles when he was about 10 to live with his sister. His parents had divorced two years earlier and he liked his visits with his sister so much he bought his own ticket and took the bus from Utah to California in 1935.

He built a ham radio system at his sister's house - a device that was later discovered by the Federal Communications Commission. Facing a fine of $10,000, Laboe was told by agents that he should get a license.

"I was already working on it," he said. And, at age 14, he got one.

"I still have it - W6TTJ," he said.

As an aside, so much interesting information came out during Laboe's luncheon interview with LARadio.com's Don Barrett, that space prevents me from doing it justice. But I'll try to come close.

Laboe graduated from Washington High School in Los Angeles at 16. He joined the Army to be part of a special program studying radar, but was too young to be sworn in. He later joined the Navy and became a radio officer with the Pan-American fleet.

Laboe's first commercial radio job was at KSAN in San Francisco, which hired him because he had his FCC licenses - three of them - and the owner needed a licensed engineer to get back in compliance after all of his other engineers had been drafted.

The idea for Laboe's "Oldies But Goodies" album collections sprung from a romantic relationship.

He was with his girlfriend of the time in a "necking" session, he said, when the 45 rpm records he was playing on the automatic spindle (remember those?) kept either jamming or finishing. This kept stopping the "action," so to speak, because his girl kept telling him to "fix it," and both were frustrated.

Eventually, his girlfriend said, "I wish they would put these songs on an album," and an idea was born.

It took Laboe awhile to get the clearances, as such albums had not been produced before and artists were afraid to lose their singles sales. But eventually he did, and in doing so launched a record company - Original Sound.

Laboe remained associated with radio, working at stations in Los Angeles including KFWB (980 AM) and what was then KXLA - later KRLA and now KDIS (1110 AM). His live broadcasts resulted in the idea of requests and dedications - a feature that made Laboe a popular DJ among listeners of all ages.

Laboe continues to take song requests and dedications from 7 p.m. to midnight Monday through Friday and 6 p.m. to midnight Sunday on KHHT, "Hot 92.3" FM.

What I got out of the presentation was not only information about Laboe's life, but an appreciation for his amazing intelligence, brilliant marketing, and care for the communities he serves. He truly believes in radio and in people, and his interview was one of the most interesting events I have attended since I began writing this column in 1987.

So with the appreciation that only a longtime fan can give, congratulations, Art. You are a true legend in radio, and you deserved this fine award.

Richard Wagoner is a freelance writer based in San Pedro. Send questions to him via e-mail at [email protected].

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 17:23
by Randyman
From the Long Beach Press Telegram

14-year-old confirmed as UK's youngest WWII death
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By GREGORY KATZ, Associated Press Writer Gregory Katz, Associated Press Writer – Fri Feb 5, 12:39 pm ET
LONDON – He lied about his age to get into the service, and was rewarded for his gallantry with an early death.

Now, on what would have been his 82nd birthday, Reginald Earnshaw's sad place in history has finally been acknowledged.

On Friday, the Commonwealth War Graves Commission officially recognized him as the youngest known British service casualty in World War II.

The lad lived just 14 years and 152 days. He died when German planes attacked the SS Devon, the ship he was on, off the east coast of England on July 6, 1941. He had only served for several months.

Officials had been slow to recognize his status because they did not have official proof of his date of birth, making it impossible to prove he was actually younger than Raymond Steed, who died at 14 years and 207 days.

Earnshaw was serving as a Merchant Navy cabin boy when he died. He had told authorities he was 15, the minimum allowable age, after leaving school to help with the war effort.

His younger sister, Pauline Harvey, placed flowers at his grave at Comely Bank Cemetery in Edinburgh, Scotland, on Friday and met with the aging relatives of other Merchant Navy sailors killed during the same attack.

"Reggie's death at such a young age and after just a few months at sea came as a great shock to the whole family," said Harvey, a retired teacher who is 77. "I am immensely grateful to so many people who helped research my brother's forgotten story, and to the war graves commission for providing his grave with a headstone."

She came forward with proof of her brother's date of birth after the war graves commission made a nationwide appeal for information about Earnshaw.

He had laid in an unmarked grave in Edinburgh for decades, and little was known about his case until a surviving shipmate, machine gunner Alf Tubb, spent several years trying to find out what had happened to the young man he served with.

His search was difficult because the war graves commission was never told where Earnshaw was buried, preventing him from receiving recognition for his brief service.

Based on information Tubb discovered, the war graves commission placed a permanent granite headstone on Earnshaw's grave last summer.

Officials said Harvey, who was nine when her brother died, will now be able to choose a personal inscription for her brother's gravestone.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 17:23
by kikibalt
Congrats to Rick Farris...you guess for what... :TU:

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Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 22:13
by THEHAMMER321
kikibalt wrote:D,

There was a fighter out of T.J that was real good, his name is Juan Escobar, he fought in the 1970's-80's and maybe into the 90's.
He fought a draw with the great Salvador Sanchez at the Olympic, a fight I seen live, btw I though Escobar won, Escobar was good, but he was never able to rise to the level that was expected of him, in 1983 my son Frankie fought him at the Olympic, he gave Frankie a spanking, a spanking? no an ass whipping! for four rounds, then he ran out of gas, Frankie came from behind and won scoring a knock down in the tenth rounDid you ever seen Escobar fight?
I always wanted to ask someone about the decision of a draw in the Sanchez fight but you saw the fight now I know thx Frank.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Feb 2010, 22:32
by THEHAMMER321
I was reading the forum and someone wrote the best of Puerto Rico vs the best of Mexico 147 pounds Cuevas vs Trinidad I stated in my reply the pre Hearns Cuevas knocks out Trinidad as I think Hearns ruined him and he was never the same fighter after that, everybody else who replied picked Trinidad easy,I think these guys are judging him after 1980 and not before any comments