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scartissue wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 14:01

Nile4000 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 11:59 Not really a classic fight but a real good one:

Jose Caba vs Jackie Beard

1) Caba 10-9
2) Beard 10-9
3) Beard 10-9
4) Caba 10-8
5) Even 10-10
6) Beard 10-9
7) Beard 10-9
8) Caba 10-9
9) Caba 10-9
10) Even 10-10

Caba 96-95. If Beard had got on his toes earlier, he could have pulled this off. Caba hit Beard with the stronger shots, amazingly Jackie bullied Jose into the ropes a couple of times.

Nile, I posted this on the scorecard thread a while back. This is what I wrote:

Jackie Beard against Jose Caba. This was good matchmaking IMO. Beard had such an impressive amateur pedigree, was 12-0 as a pro and was being pushed along nicely and needed a good name on his record and Caba fit the bill. He had height and reach on Caba but Caba had fought unsuccessfully for the featherweight title against Danny Lopez (although he really didn't deserve his title shot). So it looked good and was good.

Round 1: 10-9 Caba
Round 2: 10-9 Beard
Round 3: 10-9 Beard
Round 4: 10-8 Caba (Caba scores a knockdown)
Round 5: 10-9 Caba
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Beard
Round 8: 10-9 Caba
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Caba

Total: 97-94 Caba (actual scores: 95-95 and scores of 97-92 and 97-95 both for Caba for a majority win)

The winner of this bout was supposed to get a title shot at Eusebio Pedroza. And Caba did, but a year and a half later. Don't know what happened there.

Caba lost to Eusebio by UD. In Italy IIRC.

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 21:52

scartissue wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 14:01

Nile4000 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 11:59 Not really a classic fight but a real good one:

Jose Caba vs Jackie Beard

1) Caba 10-9
2) Beard 10-9
3) Beard 10-9
4) Caba 10-8
5) Even 10-10
6) Beard 10-9
7) Beard 10-9
8) Caba 10-9
9) Caba 10-9
10) Even 10-10

Caba 96-95. If Beard had got on his toes earlier, he could have pulled this off. Caba hit Beard with the stronger shots, amazingly Jackie bullied Jose into the ropes a couple of times.

Nile, I posted this on the scorecard thread a while back. This is what I wrote:

Jackie Beard against Jose Caba. This was good matchmaking IMO. Beard had such an impressive amateur pedigree, was 12-0 as a pro and was being pushed along nicely and needed a good name on his record and Caba fit the bill. He had height and reach on Caba but Caba had fought unsuccessfully for the featherweight title against Danny Lopez (although he really didn't deserve his title shot). So it looked good and was good.

Round 1: 10-9 Caba
Round 2: 10-9 Beard
Round 3: 10-9 Beard
Round 4: 10-8 Caba (Caba scores a knockdown)
Round 5: 10-9 Caba
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Beard
Round 8: 10-9 Caba
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Caba

Total: 97-94 Caba (actual scores: 95-95 and scores of 97-92 and 97-95 both for Caba for a majority win)

The winner of this bout was supposed to get a title shot at Eusebio Pedroza. And Caba did, but a year and a half later. Don't know what happened there.

Caba lost to Eusebio by UD. In Italy IIRC.

My bad! What I meant by, I don't know what happened there, was I don't know why it took a year and a half to receive the promised title shot. Sorry, I should have elaborated.

scartissue wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 09:17

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 21:52

scartissue wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 14:01

Nile, I posted this on the scorecard thread a while back. This is what I wrote:

Jackie Beard against Jose Caba. This was good matchmaking IMO. Beard had such an impressive amateur pedigree, was 12-0 as a pro and was being pushed along nicely and needed a good name on his record and Caba fit the bill. He had height and reach on Caba but Caba had fought unsuccessfully for the featherweight title against Danny Lopez (although he really didn't deserve his title shot). So it looked good and was good.

Round 1: 10-9 Caba
Round 2: 10-9 Beard
Round 3: 10-9 Beard
Round 4: 10-8 Caba (Caba scores a knockdown)
Round 5: 10-9 Caba
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Beard
Round 8: 10-9 Caba
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Caba

Total: 97-94 Caba (actual scores: 95-95 and scores of 97-92 and 97-95 both for Caba for a majority win)

The winner of this bout was supposed to get a title shot at Eusebio Pedroza. And Caba did, but a year and a half later. Don't know what happened there.

Caba lost to Eusebio by UD. In Italy IIRC.

My bad! What I meant by, I don't know what happened there, was I don't know why it took a year and a half to receive the promised title shot. Sorry, I should have elaborated.

Bowe/Holyfield I

All I could say is Round 10. Crazy!

Erik Morales vs Kevin Kelley



Morales stops Kelley in the 7th round of a non title Featherweight fight, dominant performance from Morales, won everything, pressured Kelley, let both hands go and didnt give Kelley the time to get his own shots off, Morales had Kelley down in the 5th from a right to the body then head, Morales kept the heat up, a 2 fisted attack had Kelley down again in the 7th then after Morales pinned Kelley on the ropes the ref stepped in as Morales unloaded lefts and rights

Erik Morales vs In Jin Chi



Morales beats Chi via UD to retain his World Featherweight title, competitive fight Morales has to work hard for the win but it was deserved in the end, Chi fought on equal terms in the warrior stakes but it was the technical savvy of Morales that won him the fight, the jab, the right cross and his countering seperated him from Chi in the majority of the rounds


Whenever Morales traded it gave Chi the chance to land his own big shots in the exchanges, he showed massive stones, took the fight to Morales and more than held his own, as i say Morales juat had the bit more class and landed the eye catching quality punches and in the end he ran out a deserved winner

Zahir Raheem vs Erik Morales



Raheem schools Morales over 12 rounds to win a UD in a non title Lightweight fight, easy nights work for Raheem who was excellent, too sharp, slick and elusive for Morales, he jabbed him, drilled him with right hands down the middle, in and out, Morales looked slow and sluggish at the weight, too late getting his punches off whilst being outboxed, outfought and outworked, Morales did have Raheem touching down with the glove momentarily a couple times but due to Raheem's slippery style they were ruled slips, a right hand which had him touching down in the 11th should've been ruled a knockdown, no matter Raheem was far enough ahead although thr 115-113 and 116-112 cards were far too close, Raheem ran out a 118-110 winner in the other card which looked more like it

David Diaz vs Erik Morales



Diaz wins a close UD to retain his World Lightweight title, cracking fight actually, plenty action, Diaz hurt Morales in the 1st but got sloppy going for the finish and walked onto a big right hand which sent him down at the end of the round, Diaz constantly walked forward and pressured Morales roughing him up on the inside and hurting him to head and body, Morales boxed well on the outside and it looked like he might be able to old man Diaz, it was a nip/tuck kind of fight, Morales didn't have the engine to hang with Diaz down the stretch and Diaz's constant pressure pipped Morales at the post

Not Classic but I just watched Fury - Wilder 2 again. It struck me that, if that was in black and white, blurry, and a little jerky, I could believe it was filmed in 1900 or thereabouts. The low hands, clinching, hustling inside, etc. What a beat down Fury did on Wilder!

Shane Mosley vs John John Molina



Mosley stops Molina in the 8th to retain his World Lightweight title, close fight for most part Molina brought the heat, took the fight to Mosley and let his hands go even nailing him occasionally with some nice straight rights, Mosley was probably still edging things with his cleaner work but it wasnt until thr 6th that he began to establish the jab and separate himself from Molina


Right at the end of the 7th Molina was down after walking on to a jolting jab of Mosley, the bell went and Molina was pissed off it was ruled a KD but it was the right call, Molina came out for the 8th to take Mosley's head off and was doing well unti Mosley hurt him to the body with a left, Molina visably hurt and showing signs he wanted out, Mosley teed off on him with both hands upstairs and down where eventually Molina found himself on the ropes taking clean punches and not throwing back when it was stopped by the ref

Shane Mosley vs Jesse James Leija



Mosley stops Leija after 9 rounds to retain his World Lightweight title, putting him down 3 times along thr way, dominant showing from Mosley, won every round, boxed Leija in the early goings, single shots working a treat, the jab, left hook, lead right, uppercuts, worked the body, some nice work from Mosley, Leija didnt have the size or speed to get to grips with him


The ref had a mare TBH, credited Mosley with a knockdown in the 6th, he hurt Leija with a right to the head thenna left to the body which had him backed up to the ropes where Mosley bundled him over, looked a push but ref called KD, then he took a point of Mosley in the 7th for a low blow after he landed an uppercut to the stomach, Leija was down a second time in the 8th this time legit from a right hand to the ear, should've been stopped there by ref/corner but Leija was allowed out for round 9, a Mosley combo had him down again, he was hurt and was down again just as bell went to end round, could've been a 4th KD but no matter as his corner finally pulled Leija on his stool

Shane Mosley vs Adrian Stone



Mosley KOs Stone in 3 to retain his World Welterweight title, iced him TBH, Stone done a decent job of frustraiting Mosley early on, got a bit dirty, both gulity of hitting on the break and were warned a few times, Mosley did always have the class though, caught Stone with the 1/2 a few times and the lead lefts


In the 3rd Mosley rocked Stone with a big right and followed up, hit Stone with about 4 rights then a left followed by monster right slept Stone

Not an actual fight, but a very funny video featuring a recently diseased legend and a man who stupidly enough, the International Boxing Hall of Fame keeps ignoring. Santos Laciar versus Diego Maradona, 1996.

Enjoy!

Vernon Forrest vs Shane Mosley 1+2


Forrest drops Mosley twice en route to a comfortable UD to become World Welterweight champ, had Mosley down twice in a torrid 2nd round for the defending champ, Forrest rocked him with a big right and followed up with a left uppercut/right hand which dropped Mosley heavily, he just about made count but was in shaky legs somehow he managed to avoid getting KO'd, his legs were completely gone and he collapsed from accumulation, not a proper KD but he was giving a count because no doubt it was punches that made him go down, the bell saved him this time, id strongly fancy Forrest to get the KO if he got another shot, after that Forrest looked intent on landing one big shot and Mosley got on his with bike, things quietend down for a few rounds and Mosley was growing in confidence until the 10th Forrest hurt him again and was teeing off on him, Mosley's beard wis incredible and somehow he lasted the course but lost a wide decision


Forrest wins the rematch by UD to retain his title, crap fight devoid of clean action and quality, Forrest had the look of the more composed boxer, Mosley aggressive and landed more eye catching punches, whether they were enough to win the fight is debatable, id imagine most rounds were decided by 1 or 2 shots, no drama, messy up close and style just didnt gel, most seemed to have Forrest winning comfortably in the end but i dont think either man could say they definitively won it

Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury
Classical fight

John_newman wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 14:57 Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury
Classical fight

1 or 2?

I've enjoyed reading hos journey and write ups and it would be great if y'all didn't soil it.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 00:41 I've enjoyed reading hos journey and write ups and it would be great if y'all didn't soil it.

just saw this:



I will say at least Coopman came to fight...

This one is a much better fight!

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 09:30 just saw this:



I will say at least Coopman came to fight...

True, but by 1976, it was easier to come to fight against Ali.

He was largely fighting from memory by then and clinging onto his title by the skin of his teeth.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 13:30

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 09:30 just saw this:



I will say at least Coopman came to fight...

True, but by 1976, it was easier to come to fight against Ali.

He was largely fighting from memory by then and clinging onto his title by the skin of his teeth.

True, true..lol

Still, one last great, dominating performance by The Greatest.

Good tussle between Leon and "The Leon"! (like Laciar, another unjustifiably forgotten by the IBHOF fighter)

Bernard Hopkins v Kelly Pavlik - BHop did a real job on Kelly, constantly getting off first while punishing the body and not allowing Pavlik to establish his jab or right hand. Really streetwise performance from Hopkins as you'd expect, holding and turning the younger man at the right time, not pretty on occasion but did the necessary to nullify a very flat, under-par Pavlik. Mad performance from BH at 43, even with Kelly injured/ill as he stated on the Joe Rogan podcast (big fan of Pavlik by the way, 2nd best on that night by a long long way however but enjoyed his work at 160 hugely).

Shane Mosley vs Raul Marquez



Fight ends in a No Contest in the 3rd round after cuts to both eyes of Marquez cause the fight to be stopped, always a strong possibility with a lefty vs righty, especially when you have a prolific bleeder like Marquez, accidental head clashes caused both, if anything it was Marquez who was probably responsible, cagey start from both men, Mosley trying to work the straight right and Marquez his straight left


In the 3rd the heads came together Marquez was cut to right eye then before the round was over another accidental clash cut his left eye, ref called doc over where it was stopped